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Constantinople or Istanbul what do you call it?

Constantinople
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Istanbul
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Constantinople or Istanbul what do you call it?

Postby Kalaspia-Shimarata » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:14 pm

I call it Constantinople because...coming from a Greek family, you kind of have to...

But what do you call it? Why?

EDIT:
I am talking about if you are talking about in modern times

I am talking about this city
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Postby The Corparation » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:15 pm

Depends what year are we referring to it in? It depends on whatever it was called when whatever we're talking about was
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Postby Republicke » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:16 pm

Never knew "Constantinople" was still in use (although it's a cool name). Just googled it, seems like which you'd use would largely depend upon whether you spoke Turkish or Greek, or the closest approximation in terms of cultural influence or heritage.
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:17 pm

I call Zimbabwe Rhodesia.

I call Istanbul Constantinople.
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Postby Galiria » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:19 pm

Wha...Istanbul? Constantinople? Surely you mean Byzantium?
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Postby Mediterreania » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:20 pm

Galiria wrote:Wha...Istanbul? Constantinople? Surely you mean Byzantium?

I'm sorry, what was that about Eastern Rome?
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Postby Kalaspia-Shimarata » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:21 pm

Galiria wrote:Wha...Istanbul? Constantinople? Surely you mean Byzantium?

Good point, I'll make it an option
Kalaspia-Shimarata's flag represents the Union between K&S. The dark blue represents the sea and the light blue represents the sky. In Kalashi language considers light blue and dark blue to be different colours. England colonised, and unified K&S, between 1774 and 1953, and English, light blue and dark blue are considered to be the same colour. Therefore, the contrast between dark blue and light blue represents the union, but the differences between K&S where as blue being two but simultaneously one colour represents K&S being two, but simultaniously one entity. The opposite to the symmetry represents the unity and indipendance of K&S, whilst also representing the Kalashi culture of opposite symmetry.KS is 75% Christian, hence the cross.

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Postby Ragnarsdomr » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:22 pm

Wait, why're we talking about Miklagarðr?
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Postby Timurid Empire » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:23 pm

I have always and will always call it Constantinople. Byzantium will rise again my brothers!
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Postby Republicke » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:23 pm

Kalaspia-Shimarata wrote:
Galiria wrote:Wha...Istanbul? Constantinople? Surely you mean Byzantium?

Good point, I'll make it an option


If you continue this policy, then this will be the coolest thread ever.
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Postby Mercator Terra » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:24 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:I call Zimbabwe Rhodesia.

I call Istanbul Constantinople.

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Postby Unilisia » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:24 pm

Istanbul is the correct name, and thus, I call it Istanbul. Constantinople was never a good name anyhow.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:25 pm

depends. If I'm debating a historical topic about Constantinople, I use Constantinople. If I'm talking about modern day Turkey's capital, I use Istanbul.
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Postby Orlkjestad » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:25 pm

Constantinople, as it is the correct way to name the city. But I use Istanbul while in Turkey or with Turkish company so I don't look insensitive or a nincompoop.
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Postby Unilisia » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:26 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:depends. If I'm debating a historical topic about Constantinople, I use Constantinople. If I'm talking about modern day Turkey's capital, I use Istanbul.


Ankara is the capital of the Turkish Republic, Istanbul is just a city.
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Postby Galiria » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:26 pm

Mediterreania wrote:
Galiria wrote:Wha...Istanbul? Constantinople? Surely you mean Byzantium?

I'm sorry, what was that about Eastern Rome?

Surely you mean Roma Oriens?
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Postby Ukinagi » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:26 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:depends. If I'm debating a historical topic about Constantinople, I use Constantinople. If I'm talking about modern day Turkey's capital, I use Istanbul.

same. except if I'm talking waaaaay far back, then I use byzantium.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:27 pm

Ukinagi wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:depends. If I'm debating a historical topic about Constantinople, I use Constantinople. If I'm talking about modern day Turkey's capital, I use Istanbul.

same. except if I'm talking waaaaay far back, then I use byzantium.


Pretty much this too.
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Postby New Manvir » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:27 pm

Istanbul, because it's called Istanbul.

Same reason I don't call New York City, New Amsterdam.
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Postby Bezo » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:28 pm

That's nobody's business but the Turks.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:28 pm

Unilisia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:depends. If I'm debating a historical topic about Constantinople, I use Constantinople. If I'm talking about modern day Turkey's capital, I use Istanbul.


Ankara is the capital of the Turkish Republic, Istanbul is just a city.


Sorry, I mixed my history. Istanbul used to be the capital.
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Postby RomeW » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:31 pm

I'll use the current name of the city, Istanbul, because it's the "official" name, but I prefer Constantinople- it's much more cooler in my eyes.

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Postby Oterro » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:31 pm

Do to playing Rome and Medieval 2: Total War overmuch, as well as never starting a campaign as the Ottoman empire in Empire, I always call it Constantinople. It sounds better anyway.
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Postby Unilisia » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:31 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Unilisia wrote:
Ankara is the capital of the Turkish Republic, Istanbul is just a city.


Sorry, I mixed my history. Istanbul used to be the capital.


Back in Ottoman times, which are rather long gone :p
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Postby United Mercenary Firms » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:32 pm

Constantinople, I guess.

That's the real name for it, under Turkey and Greece alike. Istanbul isn't even a real Turkish word. It's a mixed version of Turkish word for 'Constantinople' and an Aegean dialect that added the 'Istan'.

Popular culture and Turkish history books say it was named 'Istanbul' when the Ottoman Empire captured it from the Byzantine Greeks/Romans, but it was really called Constantinople by Muslim and Greek alike for a long time. Greeks respected it as the name for a Christian city, while the Turks felt that the fact it was called 'Costantinople' only caused them to remember the great victory for their country they won there.

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