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What is your favorite Empire?

Roman Empire
71
18%
British Empire
100
26%
French Empire
10
3%
Byzantine Empire
36
9%
Greek Empire
14
4%
German Empire
34
9%
Japanese Empire
16
4%
Turkish Empire
10
3%
Other [please clarify in thread]
64
17%
The Galatic Empire (mandatory joke option)
31
8%
 
Total votes : 386

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Postby FREEaquaticdancelesson » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:13 am

Christantle wrote:
FREEaquaticdancelesson wrote:Empire ants. :(



Where did you get that from?


A Gorillaz album in all actuality. But I love ants, they by far are the most successful invasive species(well, aside from humans), spreading "empires" of colonies across the world, a rate of production unrivaled from any species on earth! Ants are the epitome of empire! They are the most efficient, the most fierce and the best hegemony over nature in it's entirety!
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Postby Esternial » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:46 am

FREEaquaticdancelesson wrote:
Christantle wrote:

Where did you get that from?


A Gorillaz album in all actuality. But I love ants, they by far are the most successful invasive species(well, aside from humans), spreading "empires" of colonies across the world, a rate of production unrivaled from any species on earth! Ants are the epitome of empire! They are the most efficient, the most fierce and the best hegemony over nature in it's entirety!

It's a matriarchal Monarchy, hence the ant 'Queen', not the ant 'Empress'
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Postby Hagstromia » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:51 am

British empire. They screwed people over but were polite about it.

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Postby Christantle » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:52 am

Hagstromia wrote:British empire. They screwed people over but were polite about it.




Well after all, they be Brits
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Postby Ract » Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:41 pm

I'll say the Byzantines since I was briefly fascinated with them a couple months ago.

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Postby Hellsgrind » Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:44 pm

The First and Second Reichs.
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Postby Mediterreania » Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:46 pm

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Postby Verangii » Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:49 pm

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Postby Mediterreania » Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:49 pm

Nazis in Space wrote:
Deus in Machina wrote:I'm a fan of the Persian Empire. In terms of civil rights, they were way ahead of their time.
That's a bit of an exaggeration. Their freedom of religion deal was... Standard operating procedure at the time (Always has been for everyone except the adherents of the abrahamitic faiths, really), and there's plenty of sources describing the existence, purpose and function of the persian secret police. Nowadays, we'd call it one hell of a tyranny.

As far as tyrannies go, it was a pretty nice one, and by contemporary standards they were pretty okay - but they weren't leaps and bounds ahead of anyone.


It was leaps and bounds ahead of the standard "Look, something we haven't burnt yet! Let's burn it!" of the times.
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Postby Kyraina » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:31 pm

Mediterreania wrote:
Nazis in Space wrote:That's a bit of an exaggeration. Their freedom of religion deal was... Standard operating procedure at the time (Always has been for everyone except the adherents of the abrahamitic faiths, really), and there's plenty of sources describing the existence, purpose and function of the persian secret police. Nowadays, we'd call it one hell of a tyranny.

As far as tyrannies go, it was a pretty nice one, and by contemporary standards they were pretty okay - but they weren't leaps and bounds ahead of anyone.


It was leaps and bounds ahead of the standard "Look, something we haven't burnt yet! Let's burn it!" of the times.


besides they were known for being mercyless during battle and they probaly wouldnt stand a chance today
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Postby Mosasauria » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:33 pm

Outside of Napoleon, French never really had an empire.
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Postby Christantle » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:34 pm

Mosasauria wrote:Outside of Napoleon, French never really had an empire.


Agreed
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Postby Pope Joan » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:39 pm

I thought the Persians of Cyrus were enlightened. They knew not just how to conquer, but how to administer.

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Postby Mushet » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:24 pm

Even though I am thoroughly Anti-Imperial I do admire the Arab empire for their warrior code and their culturual and scientific achievements, not to mention their religion, even though I'm not an adherent
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Postby United Earthlings » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:26 pm

Christantle wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:Outside of Napoleon, French never really had an empire.

Agreed


Tell that to the Haitians, Moroccans and Algerians, Mexicans in the 1860s, the Vietnamese also known as Indo-China at the time not to mention the people of Madagascar and that's not even getting started with the literally dozens of other various African and Pacific nations that exist today from the breakup of the French Empire in the 1950s and 1960s.

You two might consider reading a history book some time, because to say France never had an Empire is a massive understatement.

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Nitpick time, of all the choices you listed I'm sadden you left out some of the biggest. The Mongol Empire, the Russian Empire and the various Persian Empires for starters.

Also, it's the Ottoman Empire not the Turkish Empire as Turkey as a nation didn't exist until 1922 A.D. I.E. Turkey never had an empire. Also, depending on what you consider Greek, there never was a Greek empire per say, the closest and largest was the Macedonian Empire.

BTW, the Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire can be combined into one choice as the Byzantine Empire was little more then the continuation of the Eastern Roman Empire which it itself is sometimes referred to as.

Also, a better joke empire choice probably would of been listing an American Empire as an option. For some people, they really do believe America has an empire. No one truly believes {not any sane person I've met-haven't meet any insane ones either so they might exist} that there is an actually Galactic Empire.

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As to my favorite empire, I would have to give it a toss up between the early Roman Empire and the Russian Empire {but, not the later Soviet Empire [USSR]}.
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Postby Edwardsreal » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:28 pm

British ;), see the thing with them is that often, under them, peoples in the colonies would prosper (alright, I confess, maybe not Native Americans or Africans) in some way (i.e Malaya whom was given a modern road and communications system by the Brits, India with a standard language and system of writing, etc)

God, it SUCKED when they gave back Hong Kong :(

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Postby FREEaquaticdancelesson » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:41 pm

Esternial wrote:
FREEaquaticdancelesson wrote:
A Gorillaz album in all actuality. But I love ants, they by far are the most successful invasive species(well, aside from humans), spreading "empires" of colonies across the world, a rate of production unrivaled from any species on earth! Ants are the epitome of empire! They are the most efficient, the most fierce and the best hegemony over nature in it's entirety!

It's a matriarchal Monarchy, hence the ant 'Queen', not the ant 'Empress'


But, didn't the British empire have a queen?
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THINK of all the war propaganda you endure every day
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Postby Jagalonia » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:07 pm

Mosasauria wrote:Outside of Napoleon, French never really had an empire.

Which brings us to rule #3 of the french.

The french can never win unless lead by a non-frenchman.
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Postby Jagalonia » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:07 pm

FREEaquaticdancelesson wrote:
Esternial wrote:It's a matriarchal Monarchy, hence the ant 'Queen', not the ant 'Empress'


But, didn't the British empire have a queen?

And a king, yes.

They operated under the feudal system, but are still technicaly considered an empire.
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Postby Neo Rom » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:12 pm

Rome

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Postby Neo Rom » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:16 pm

Rome

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Postby North Suran » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:21 am

Evigglaede wrote:why are the mongolian empire not an option who is not a fan off barbarian horsemen who created the largest empire in the history of earth

It bears noting that the Mongol Empire only lasted at its greatest extent for a few decades.

Mosasauria wrote:Outside of Napoleon, French never really had an empire.

Strange, then, that when someone mentions the "French Empire", they are unlikely to be referring to Napoleon's failed attempt to turn a nation-state into an imperialist continental unit and are more likely to be referring to the French colonial empire, which was the 9th largest empire in history - albeit still ultimately a failed attempt to turn a nation-state into an imperialist transcontinental unit.

United Earthlings wrote:Also, it's the Ottoman Empire not the Turkish Empire as Turkey as a nation didn't exist until 1922 A.D. I.E. Turkey never had an empire.

The term "Ottoman Empire" was retroactively applied to distinguish the Ottoman era from the modern Turkish republic, and was never actually used during its existence. Its contemporary name was Turkey or the Turkish Empire (in Latin Turchia or Imperium Turcicum respectively), while its official name was the Sublime Ottoman State.

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FREEaquaticdancelesson wrote:But, didn't the British empire have a queen?

And a king, yes.

Actually, the British empire had either a King-Emperor and a Queen-Empress, as was the monarch's official title. If you've seen The King's Speech, you'll noticed that King Edward signs his abdication form with the letters "RI" at the end of his name, which stands for "Rex Imperator" - the Latin term for King-Emperor.

They operated under the feudal system, but are still technicaly considered an empire.

Not even a communist would describe the British political system as "feudal". Feudalism, as a system of governance, died long before the foundation of the British Empire (although there were exceptions to the rule, such as Tsarist Russia).
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:55 am

FREEaquaticdancelesson wrote:
Esternial wrote:It's a matriarchal Monarchy, hence the ant 'Queen', not the ant 'Empress'


But, didn't the British empire have a queen?


Queen Victoria, who also held the title Empress of India. ;)
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Postby HomeLand Safety » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:59 am

I voted other in the fact that I belive that the Russian empire if it ever was one was a great empire its lifespan though short lived was a great and powerful one
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Postby Castleclose » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:03 am

Shouldn't that be Ottoman empire?

Also British Empire FTW!
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