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How do you game?

Console (please specify).
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PC
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Arcade
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Anything and Everything.
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Postby Imperial isa » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:12 pm

Thurask wrote:
Norstal wrote:If BioWare manage to use the same engine AND have a more polished graphics, I would be really impressed.

If EA manages to remember that Steam sales still give them money, I'd be even more impressed.

that if they don't set it up that you can only get it off their own store
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Postby Indeos » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:23 pm

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Indeos wrote:I seriously don't see a game-breaking difference. Ffs the graphics are way better than is necessary for a fun game, and the more time/money they spend on graphics the worse everything else gets.

You don't need to spend money on that. :palm:

Seriously, I said if they use the same engine and they made the graphics better, I would be impressed.


To make them better, they need to spend time and money. Money to pay the people whose jobs include graphics work, and time those people could be spending doing other things. Factor in time waiting for graphics projects to finish so other ones can start and a reasonable amount of delays/errors in the graphics work and you've got a hell of a lot more time and money being used up. To be fair to you, I assumed you meant the engine responsible for gameplay and physics, not the graphics engine.

In short: Graphics are one of the most overprioritized parts of a game, and it's only like that because they make the game sell better. And because of people like you, who complain that great graphics are bad simply because they aren't the best in relation to every other game (which is even worse than it should be due to the tendency to compare games that are a few years old to ones that are a few months old).

Bullshit. Where the fuck did I fucking complained? I really don't like being accused of shit I didn't do.


You must have missed your last post with the image comparison, then.
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Postby The Corparation » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:25 pm

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Postby Norstal » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:36 pm

Indeos wrote:To make them better, they need to spend time and money. Money to pay the people whose jobs include graphics work, and time those people could be spending doing other things. Factor in time waiting for graphics projects to finish so other ones can start and a reasonable amount of delays/errors in the graphics work and you've got a hell of a lot more time and money being used up. To be fair to you, I assumed you meant the engine responsible for gameplay and physics, not the graphics engine.

No, they really don't. They only need to sharpen the textures. Maybe even the shaders. I'm not asking for crazy special effects or new models.

You must have missed your last post with the image comparison, then.

That's not complaining. That's showing a comparison that they could be much better like other games. It's a suggestion that BioWare could've made their graphics much better.

For fuck's sake's graphics isn't everything, but it's nice that people can and should make advances in that field. They should fully use the Unreal Engine's capabilities to get what they paid for.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:46 pm

Okay, this may be a dumb question, but what is the point of a racing game to include a race mode where you don't actually race? :eyebrow:
just curious, as recently I picked up Formula One 2001 for PS2 and there is a mode in the game called Spectator, that lets you pick the starting grid and just watch the race... I like it, but can't for the life of me fathom why something like that would've been put in...
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Postby Old Vester » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:49 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:Okay, this may be a dumb question, but what is the point of a racing game to include a race mode where you don't actually race? :eyebrow:
just curious, as recently I picked up Formula One 2001 for PS2 and there is a mode in the game called Spectator, that lets you pick the starting grid and just watch the race... I like it, but can't for the life of me fathom why something like that would've been put in...

People are getting lazier nowadays. It's getting to the point where they don't want to press any buttons when they play a video game.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:51 pm

Metro 2033 has kept me occupied the last week. It is one hell of a good game.

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Postby Old Vester » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:52 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Metro 2033 has kept me occupied the last week. It is one hell of a good game.

You should check out Last Light then.
Although if following the book is important to you then Last Light might be a bit of a disapointment.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:52 pm

Old Vester wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:Okay, this may be a dumb question, but what is the point of a racing game to include a race mode where you don't actually race? :eyebrow:
just curious, as recently I picked up Formula One 2001 for PS2 and there is a mode in the game called Spectator, that lets you pick the starting grid and just watch the race... I like it, but can't for the life of me fathom why something like that would've been put in...

People are getting lazier nowadays. It's getting to the point where they don't want to press any buttons when they play a video game.


Point. But the game I'm talking about was made way back in 2001...
I didn't think gamers got lazy until 09 at least... :?
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:54 pm

Old Vester wrote:
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Metro 2033 has kept me occupied the last week. It is one hell of a good game.

You should check out Last Light then.
Although if following the book is important to you then Last Light might be a bit of a disapointment.


Following the book isn't important to me... though I honestly didn't even learn until today that the game was based off a novel. I mean, yeah, there's plenty of objects in-game that say "Hey, look at me, I'm a book! And I have Metro 2033 as my cover!" but I never really had dots to connect.

I might have to pick up the novel at some point.

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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:55 pm

Also, Team Fortress 2 is free-to-play on Steam, and I think I'll be enjoying it soon.




... what? I just got my own lappy gaming rig a couple of weeks ago, give me a break!

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Postby Imperial isa » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:56 pm

Old Vester wrote:
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Metro 2033 has kept me occupied the last week. It is one hell of a good game.

You should check out Last Light then.
Although if following the book is important to you then Last Light might be a bit of a disapointment.

am just let down they went with the bad ending to start it from
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Postby Old Vester » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:57 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Old Vester wrote:You should check out Last Light then.
Although if following the book is important to you then Last Light might be a bit of a disapointment.


Following the book isn't important to me... though I honestly didn't even learn until today that the game was based off a novel. I mean, yeah, there's plenty of objects in-game that say "Hey, look at me, I'm a book! And I have Metro 2033 as my cover!" but I never really had dots to connect.

I might have to pick up the novel at some point.

It's a good read.
Then you're going to love Last Light. Since they decided to stop trying to follow the book they can now focus on their own storyline and do what they want to do.

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Old Vester wrote:People are getting lazier nowadays. It's getting to the point where they don't want to press any buttons when they play a video game.


Point. But the game I'm talking about was made way back in 2001...
I didn't think gamers got lazy until 09 at least... :?

They gotta plant that seed early to make that appeal.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:58 pm

Old Vester wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
Point. But the game I'm talking about was made way back in 2001...
I didn't think gamers got lazy until 09 at least... :?

They gotta plant that seed early to make that appeal.


True.
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Postby Aestherra » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:59 pm

BF3 in 9 days! My husband probably won't let me touch the PS3 without biting my hand off for a few days but, I'm still pumped. :p
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Postby Old Vester » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:02 am

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Old Vester wrote:
They gotta plant that seed early to make that appeal.


True.

Why do you think no one really cared about realism until BFBC2?

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You could always tempt him with the one thing men can't resist.....a ham and turkey club. Make sure the bread is big enough so that you gotta use both hands.
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Postby Old Vester » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:03 am

Imperial isa wrote:
Old Vester wrote:You should check out Last Light then.
Although if following the book is important to you then Last Light might be a bit of a disapointment.

am just let down they went with the bad ending to start it from

It'll be a good game overall though.
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:04 am

Old Vester wrote:
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Following the book isn't important to me... though I honestly didn't even learn until today that the game was based off a novel. I mean, yeah, there's plenty of objects in-game that say "Hey, look at me, I'm a book! And I have Metro 2033 as my cover!" but I never really had dots to connect.

I might have to pick up the novel at some point.

It's a good read.
Then you're going to love Last Light. Since they decided to stop trying to follow the book they can now focus on their own storyline and do what they want to do.

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Point. But the game I'm talking about was made way back in 2001...
I didn't think gamers got lazy until 09 at least... :?

They gotta plant that seed early to make that appeal.


I just love that the game actually creeps me out for once. I mean, with other shooters, you run through a level, and if you die, oh well. When I'm shooting at Nazis or Reds, I'm fine, but when I'm walking in a dark corridor and I hear a growl from an indiscernable location... I mean, it's insane. Rescuing a kid is itself exciting when I know there's going to be someone telling me when things are trying to kill me. There aren't many games out there that are this enthralling. And the way currency works in this game is fantastic, too.

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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:04 am

Old Vester wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
True.

Why do you think no one really cared about realism until BFBC2?


Um... I dunno... besides, I'm not into shooter games anyway, except Metroid, and even that's been a few years...
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Postby Imperial isa » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:08 am

Old Vester wrote:
Imperial isa wrote:am just let down they went with the bad ending to start it from

It'll be a good game overall though.

i hope they tell us how he got down
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Postby Old Vester » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:12 am

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Old Vester wrote:It's a good read.
Then you're going to love Last Light. Since they decided to stop trying to follow the book they can now focus on their own storyline and do what they want to do.


They gotta plant that seed early to make that appeal.


I just love that the game actually creeps me out for once. I mean, with other shooters, you run through a level, and if you die, oh well. When I'm shooting at Nazis or Reds, I'm fine, but when I'm walking in a dark corridor and I hear a growl from an indiscernable location... I mean, it's insane. Rescuing a kid is itself exciting when I know there's going to be someone telling me when things are trying to kill me. There aren't many games out there that are this enthralling. And the way currency works in this game is fantastic, too.

Since the developers don't have to follow the book anymore, that leads to new ideas. So expect newer and creepier things lurking in the shadows.

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Old Vester wrote:Why do you think no one really cared about realism until BFBC2?


Um... I dunno... besides, I'm not into shooter games anyway, except Metroid, and even that's been a few years...

Haven't really seen any trends going on with racers. Only thing I've seen that really sticks is a s*** ton of cars and customizing them. But that's kindof the basics.

Imperial isa wrote:
Old Vester wrote:It'll be a good game overall though.

i hope they tell us how he got down

Probably.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:16 am

Old Vester wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
Um... I dunno... besides, I'm not into shooter games anyway, except Metroid, and even that's been a few years...

Haven't really seen any trends going on with racers. Only thing I've seen that really sticks is a s*** ton of cars and customizing them. But that's kindof the basics.


Those are street games, then.
I'm mostly into NASCAR and F1 games with a side of hockey and NCAA football.
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Postby Imperial isa » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:16 am

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Old Vester wrote:It's a good read.
Then you're going to love Last Light. Since they decided to stop trying to follow the book they can now focus on their own storyline and do what they want to do.


They gotta plant that seed early to make that appeal.


I just love that the game actually creeps me out for once. I mean, with other shooters, you run through a level, and if you die, oh well. When I'm shooting at Nazis or Reds, I'm fine, but when I'm walking in a dark corridor and I hear a growl from an indiscernable location... I mean, it's insane. Rescuing a kid is itself exciting when I know there's going to be someone telling me when things are trying to kill me. There aren't many games out there that are this enthralling. And the way currency works in this game is fantastic, too.

what creep me out was the climbing part

all so there was a ranger mode add making it more hard when you switch to it
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Postby Old Vester » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:18 am

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Old Vester wrote:
Haven't really seen any trends going on with racers. Only thing I've seen that really sticks is a s*** ton of cars and customizing them. But that's kindof the basics.


Those are street games, then.
I'm mostly into NASCAR and F1 games with a side of hockey and NCAA football.

Sports game don't really change much over time. But they do slightly improve with each one.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:24 am

Old Vester wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
Those are street games, then.
I'm mostly into NASCAR and F1 games with a side of hockey and NCAA football.

Sports game don't really change much over time. But they do slightly improve with each one.


Unless they're made by EA Sports... they find a way to ruin everything except for hockey and NCAA football...

Example #1... NASCAR... Peaked at NASCAR 06, and got a little bit worse consistently until NASCAR 09, which is a total cr@p game. i only keep it because if I get rid of it, I would no longer have 1 copy of every EA Sports NASCAR title.

Example #2... Madden on Wii. 08 was almost like the Gamecube version with a side of motion gaming, which wasn't bad at all. 09 was a bit worse, and then 10... oh gosh that game... it sucked. The worst graphics in nearly a decade, Franchise mode was unlockable only by code, and too much emphasis on minigames. 11 and 12 got a little better, but considering 10 is the worst Madden title ever, that's not saying much.
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Posting mod mistakes now are we?

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