A thread for Gamers.

[Minoriteeburg]

IIRC, there's a free one. Can't remember the name, though, and I've no clue if it was any good.

(Dead Frontier might have been the name, actually...)

That's one of them. And in my opinion, it just sucks. So damn cliched...

What there needs to be is an MMO that is basically like dead risings survival mode but a whole city and not just a small section.

[Wilgrove]

Cracked made another awesome article on gaming. This time, on Dick moves in MMORPGS.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-bigge ... ne-gaming/

[The Rich Port]

Cracked made another awesome article on gaming. This time, on Dick moves in MMORPGS.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-bigge ... ne-gaming/

And this is why I don't pay for ANYTHING after I buy the game CD.

MMORPG's are for suckers.

[TheRightWay]

Hardcore PC gaming Snob ...
Consoles have yet to match the graphics, performance or controls of a computer and in the end the genres that I most enjoy (generally there are exceptions) are better adapted to keyboard and or mouse input

[Grave_n_idle]

http://www.fear3.co.uk/

Now this... this is what I have to have.

[Wilgrove]

Cracked made another awesome article on gaming. This time, on Dick moves in MMORPGS.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-bigge ... ne-gaming/

And this is why I don't pay for ANYTHING after I buy the game CD.

MMORPG's are for suckers.

Honestly, why do people seem to feel the need to make the statement that people who keep paying for the product is an idiot? Yes I've paid monthly subscription for MMOs, but that's because it cost money to keep the game going and to keep new content flowing. It's the same reason why I pay for DLCs for my simulation games. I mean I'm sure you get some self-congratulatory smug feeling from laughing at MMO players, but honestly, until you actually play an MMO, don't knock it. Esp. don't knock it if you paid for a DLC for a game you already brought.

[Indeos]

And this is why I don't pay for ANYTHING after I buy the game CD.

MMORPG's are for suckers.

Honestly, why do people seem to feel the need to make the statement that people who keep paying for the product is an idiot? Yes I've paid monthly subscription for MMOs, but that's because it cost money to keep the game going and to keep new content flowing. It's the same reason why I pay for DLCs for my simulation games. I mean I'm sure you get some self-congratulatory smug feeling from laughing at MMO players, but honestly, until you actually play an MMO, don't knock it. Esp. don't knock it if you paid for a DLC for a game you already brought.

It's applied to MMOs because MMOs are the only genre where it's considered acceptable for you to literally repeat the same thing ad infinitum. The actual objectives for quests in WoW, for example, don't change from level one to level eighty. You're essentially paying to play the same content re-skinned a billion times. Not to mention, letting developers get away with lots of DLC is bad because it's making games something they want us to constantly pay for.

[Lelf]

I've owned PS3, Xbox, PS2, PS and wii. Best of the five is the PS3 in my opinion. I do a bit of PC gaming, (civiliaztion). I've been playing Civilization IV since it came out a few years ago and I'm still not bored with it.

Best game ever? Final Fantasy VII. On one file I have over 95 hours played.

[Wilgrove]

Honestly, why do people seem to feel the need to make the statement that people who keep paying for the product is an idiot? Yes I've paid monthly subscription for MMOs, but that's because it cost money to keep the game going and to keep new content flowing. It's the same reason why I pay for DLCs for my simulation games. I mean I'm sure you get some self-congratulatory smug feeling from laughing at MMO players, but honestly, until you actually play an MMO, don't knock it. Esp. don't knock it if you paid for a DLC for a game you already brought.

It's applied to MMOs because MMOs are the only genre where it's considered acceptable for you to literally repeat the same thing ad infinitum. The actual objectives for quests in WoW, for example, don't change from level one to level eighty. You're essentially paying to play the same content re-skinned a billion times. Not to mention, letting developers get away with lots of DLC is bad because it's making games something they want us to constantly pay for.

I play MMOs, not for the quest, I play them for the social interactions and for whatever storyline and role playing opportunity that the MMO may have. Yes, in about 99% of MMOs, the quests are pretty much the same, I will give you that. However, that's just one aspect of playing an MMO.

As far as DLCs, TBH, I buy DLCs and Payware (Payware is third party DLC) because 1. I support the product and I support the continuation of the development of that product. I also support the third party payware vendors who make content for the game. In the simulation gaming genre, the usual model is every two the three years, you get an upgraded version of the game. Flight Sim 95, 98, 2000, 2002, 2004, FSX, etc.

However, with one of the simulation games that I play, instead of releasing an updated version of the game that you have to pay for, every two years. What they've done is released the original game, and you get the upgrades for free. I brought this game when it first came out, and received each major upgrades for free. However, the company has to make money right? That why they also release DLCs. Sometimes they're new models, new routes, etc. You don't have to buy the DLC in order to enjoy the game.

I don't have a problem with DLCs as long as they are an addition to the original game, instead of something that you HAVE to buy in order to completely play the game.

[Rhodesiah]

I played SWG since beta, sporadically coming back and forth for the last 2 years.
Played WoW on and off as well, usually with the onset of the "latest expansion"
Age of Conan was... meh. I was decent.
Kingdom of Loathing... all I can say is "fear my disco banditry!"

[Norstal]

You're essentially paying to play the same content re-skinned a billion times. Not to mention, letting developers get away with lots of DLC is bad because it's making games something they want us to constantly pay for.

The cost of maintaining software (at least for PC games) is difficult now that it's gotten so advanced, it's going to get expensive. Selling DLC is a way to keep the patches going. I don't mind DLCs actually, as long as it's not omfgwtfbbq essential to the game itself. It has to be cosmetic or minor. Bioware is somewhat good at this.

[Wilgrove]

I played SWG since beta, sporadically coming back and forth for the last 2 years.
Played WoW on and off as well, usually with the onset of the "latest expansion"
Age of Conan was... meh. I was decent.
Kingdom of Loathing... all I can say is "fear my disco banditry!"

Must suck that SWG is closing huh? Well, I don't feel sorry for you guys to be honest. At least the CEO of SOE actually talked to Massively, and explained why SWG was closing down.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/24 ... -galaxies/

For those of us who played The Matrix Online, we didn't even get a decent world ending event. It was just a bunch of Devs and players setting off lagging special effects in Club Hel and we all got meatwadded at the end. We got nothing, all we got was the Wall-O-Silence followed by "OH HAI GUIZ, CLOSING IN 2 MONTHS TROLOLOLOLOL!" followed by more Wall-O-Silence.

I will say this till the day I die, Fuck SOE.

[Wilgrove]

You're essentially paying to play the same content re-skinned a billion times. Not to mention, letting developers get away with lots of DLC is bad because it's making games something they want us to constantly pay for.

The cost of maintaining software (at least for PC games) is difficult now that it's gotten so advanced, it's going to get expensive. Selling DLC is a way to keep the patches going. I don't mind DLCs actually, as long as it's not omfgwtfbbq essential to the game itself. It has to be cosmetic or minor. Bioware is somewhat good at this.

RSC is good at DLC too. They allow third party Payware and Freeware vendors to add to the game, as well as selling their own DLCs. Hel, they even allow the third party payware vendors to sell their product on Steam, alongside WITH their own DLCs. I think PC game developers could learn many things from that model.

[Norstal]

The cost of maintaining software (at least for PC games) is difficult now that it's gotten so advanced, it's going to get expensive. Selling DLC is a way to keep the patches going. I don't mind DLCs actually, as long as it's not omfgwtfbbq essential to the game itself. It has to be cosmetic or minor. Bioware is somewhat good at this.

RSC is good at DLC too. They allow third party Payware and Freeware vendors to add to the game, as well as selling their own DLCs. Hel, they even allow the third party payware vendors to sell their product on Steam, alongside WITH their own DLCs. I think PC game developers could learn many things from that model.

RSC...Runescape?!

And yeah, that's one way to cut costs. EA could learn so many things from this. But then again, it's EA...

Also, the only MMORPG I'm looking forward to is The Secret World. All others have failed me (for the last time).

[Wilgrove]

RSC is good at DLC too. They allow third party Payware and Freeware vendors to add to the game, as well as selling their own DLCs. Hel, they even allow the third party payware vendors to sell their product on Steam, alongside WITH their own DLCs. I think PC game developers could learn many things from that model.

RSC...Runescape?!

And yeah, that's one way to cut costs. EA could learn so many things from this. But then again, it's EA...

Also, the only MMORPG I'm looking forward to is The Secret World. All others have failed me (for the last time).

Hel no. I'm talking Rail Simulator Company. http://railsimulator.com/

The only MMO I really enjoyed was MxO, and like you, I'm looking forward to The Secret World.

[Indeos]

It's applied to MMOs because MMOs are the only genre where it's considered acceptable for you to literally repeat the same thing ad infinitum. The actual objectives for quests in WoW, for example, don't change from level one to level eighty. You're essentially paying to play the same content re-skinned a billion times. Not to mention, letting developers get away with lots of DLC is bad because it's making games something they want us to constantly pay for.

I play MMOs, not for the quest, I play them for the social interactions and for whatever storyline and role playing opportunity that the MMO may have. Yes, in about 99% of MMOs, the quests are pretty much the same, I will give you that. However, that's just one aspect of playing an MMO.

As far as DLCs, TBH, I buy DLCs and Payware (Payware is third party DLC) because 1. I support the product and I support the continuation of the development of that product. I also support the third party payware vendors who make content for the game. In the simulation gaming genre, the usual model is every two the three years, you get an upgraded version of the game. Flight Sim 95, 98, 2000, 2002, 2004, FSX, etc.

However, with one of the simulation games that I play, instead of releasing an updated version of the game that you have to pay for, every two years. What they've done is released the original game, and you get the upgrades for free. I brought this game when it first came out, and received each major upgrades for free. However, the company has to make money right? That why they also release DLCs. Sometimes they're new models, new routes, etc. You don't have to buy the DLC in order to enjoy the game.

I don't have a problem with DLCs as long as they are an addition to the original game, instead of something that you HAVE to buy in order to completely play the game.

I have a problem with pre-planned DLC. Bethesda seems to like that sort of thing, where they plan a few DLC packages ahead of time. At a certain point, I think developers need to just add that sort of thing on. I don't mind DLC, provided it actually adds to the game and isn't just a way to keep you playing the game longer and throwing money at the company.

My problem with the subscription-based MMO model is that they don't create the social interaction and roleplaying that keeps some playing. The most important question when discussing a game is whether the parts that the designers are responsible for is fun, and that generally isn't the case for MMOs. The quests are fun for a while, but eventually the monotony outweighs the worth of the game, and if the balancing force is something that the company isn't responsible for it shouldn't be a consideration*. This is exacerbated with WoW, and probably others, because they require a subscription fee and paid-for addons.

*Even MMOs are not especially designed for roleplaying. They have notoriously crappy immersion and the social aspect is entirely player-driven, so I don't count them as positives.

If there are any incoherent or blatantly horrible parts, it's probably because the clock just passed 3 and I'm suffering from sleep deprivation in the first place. That and MMO hate.

[Minoriteeburg]

Duke Nukem is disappoiunt.

[Wilgrove]

Duke Nukem is disappoiunt.

That's what I've been hearing. How is it a disappointment?

[Alekseevskaya]

Mostly PC now, I have a 360 but it is falling out of personal favor.

[Minoriteeburg]

Duke Nukem is disappoiunt.

That's what I've been hearing. How is it a disappointment?

Well, it was going to be disappoint no matter what (because it took so long to come out), but it is just not like the Duke we know and love. Don't get me wrong. It's a solid game, and stays truest to the Duke legacy that any sequel has had to date, but i think it is just too story driven when it really needs to be about kicking serious ass. Well at least more ass than you kick in the game.

It is definitely worth playing though.

[Minoriteeburg]

I have been having an uncanny addiction to Plants V. Zombies recently. Good times.

[Coffee Cakes]

i just bought Pokemon Snap today for my N64, and in under 90 minutes, have gone on a reampage unlocking levels, tools, and knocking down the Pokedex. I'm owning currently, and it feels good. The game still looks good, too.

[Banditoca]

I prefer making them to playing them.

[Minoriteeburg]

i just bought Pokemon Snap today for my N64, and in under 90 minutes, have gone on a reampage unlocking levels, tools, and knocking down the Pokedex. I'm owning currently, and it feels good. The game still looks good, too.

Wasn't there a printer or something that came with the original so you can print your pictures?

[Coffee Cakes]

i just bought Pokemon Snap today for my N64, and in under 90 minutes, have gone on a reampage unlocking levels, tools, and knocking down the Pokedex. I'm owning currently, and it feels good. The game still looks good, too.

Wasn't there a printer or something that came with the original so you can print your pictures?

Yeah, but even back then, I never used it.