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Postby Harata » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:19 pm

Probably California, just to see how long they could go before failing catastrophically (I'd guess about 11 minutes).
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Postby Antarcticatica » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:26 pm

Hawaii because it only became a state because of the interests and power of a small cabal of sugar barons. Incorporating Hawaii into the USA was done against established treaties and the wishes of the majority of Hawaiians.

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Postby Maurepas » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:29 pm

Antarcticatica wrote:Hawaii because it only became a state because of the interests and power of a small cabal of sugar barons. Incorporating Hawaii into the USA was done against established treaties and the wishes of the majority of Hawaiians.

While entirely true, and despicable. Those people are all dead, I'm not sure the majority feels that way anymore.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:35 pm

Antarcticatica wrote:Hawaii because it only became a state because of the interests and power of a small cabal of sugar barons. Incorporating Hawaii into the USA was done against established treaties and the wishes of the majority of Hawaiians.


Considering the predecessor of the queen during the time of the actual annexation took place, asked the US to take over (though the civil war was breaking out at the time). Not to mention during the time, Imperial war ships were cruising around, even going into the islands ports and encouraging immigration from Japan to the kingdom. When migration was halted by the monarch, they [Japan] again sent war ships...I doubt for kicks and giggles. Had it not been for the fact that shortly after we did annex Hawaii, Japan would have. And I can tell you they would have been far worse off under the Japanese than the US. And there would most likely not have been a debate about it.
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Postby Antarcticatica » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:43 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Antarcticatica wrote:Hawaii because it only became a state because of the interests and power of a small cabal of sugar barons. Incorporating Hawaii into the USA was done against established treaties and the wishes of the majority of Hawaiians.


Considering the predecessor of the queen during the time of the actual annexation took place, asked the US to take over (though the civil war was breaking out at the time). Not to mention during the time, Imperial war ships were cruising around, even going into the islands ports and encouraging immigration from Japan to the kingdom. When migration was halted by the monarch, they [Japan] again sent war ships...I doubt for kicks and giggles. Had it not been for the fact that shortly after we did annex Hawaii, Japan would have. And I can tell you they would have been far worse off under the Japanese than the US. And there would most likely not have been a debate about it.


Undoubtedly true. You make a strong case for the American annexation of Hawaii. But in trying to find a reason for the USA to drop one state, is there another state you would drop before Hawaii?

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Postby GermanicStates » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:47 pm

New Jersey. But dont sell it or make it independent. Make it apart of another state so they can clean it up, and hopefully get rid of that incredibly stupid show

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:07 am

Antarcticatica wrote:
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Considering the predecessor of the queen during the time of the actual annexation took place, asked the US to take over (though the civil war was breaking out at the time). Not to mention during the time, Imperial war ships were cruising around, even going into the islands ports and encouraging immigration from Japan to the kingdom. When migration was halted by the monarch, they [Japan] again sent war ships...I doubt for kicks and giggles. Had it not been for the fact that shortly after we did annex Hawaii, Japan would have. And I can tell you they would have been far worse off under the Japanese than the US. And there would most likely not have been a debate about it.


Undoubtedly true. You make a strong case for the American annexation of Hawaii. But in trying to find a reason for the USA to drop one state, is there another state you would drop before Hawaii?


New Jersey. For some strange reason it irks me. Of course it might have to do with my short stay at Newark International, where we had to wait on the plane for an hour, or just the mean people. I dunno.

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Postby Seangoli » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:17 am

Existential_Nihilists wrote:Wyoming. Simply because I have never heard of, seen or otherwise met a person from that state.


Not from Wyoming, but am a current resident of it.

And I whole heartily agree. This place is a friggin' pit. Most people from here say how great it is, how there is no better place. And yet they have never been any where else. Oy.

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:35 am

New Mexico, Hawaii, California, Washington, Oregon, Maine, Alaska.
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Postby Dagnia » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:35 am

Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:I'd have to say New York, or New Jersey.

Whenever someone is weaving in & out of traffic at 100 miles an hour in a 55 or 65 MPH zone, it's almost alway someone from New York or New Jersey.

Some of the rudest people in the county are from the most populated parts of those states.

I was once pumping gas in South Carolina & I could hear the sound of a woodpecker, is was so quiet & peaceful, then a car pulled up with New York plates. The driver got out leaving his motor running & the passenger threw the car's trash out the window & into the lot. There was a trash can in plane view & just a handful of steps away from the car.

I walk over & picked up the New Yorker's trash & threw it into the can, looking at him the whole time, not one sign of remorse, no show of thanks, just a scumbag with no respect on how other people live. Of course, not all people from those states are like that, but if you grew up in the southeast, you know someone with disrespect on the roads, more than likely has New York or New Jersey plates, most likely going to Florida or back home from FLA.

I imagine when I travel up that way doing the speed limit the locals think "I wish this slow hick would get off the road!"


That has to be an Eastern New York problem. I live in Buffalo, where we rival the Canadians in regards to politeness (and I can compare just about every day, because a lot of them come over on the Peace Bridge and my boyfriend is Canadian). We might as well be on another planet from New York City.
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Postby Australien » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:39 am

Can we do Australia? Because we're dying to get rid off Tasmania. (Please, for the love of god, just take it! :P)
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:42 am

Australien wrote:Can we do Australia? Because we're dying to get rid off Tasmania. (Please, for the love of god, just take it! :P)


But...but...without Tasmania, there's no Tasmanian devil. Look at him, look at him in the eyes, can you say that now with a straight face? Not to mention I understand him as well as I do any other Aussie I've ever met. :lol2:

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Postby Australien » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:47 am

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Australien wrote:Can we do Australia? Because we're dying to get rid off Tasmania. (Please, for the love of god, just take it! :P)


But...but...without Tasmania, there's no Tasmanian devil. Look at him, look at him in the eyes, can you say that now with a straight face? Not to mention I understand him as well as I do any other Aussie I've ever met. :lol2:

The real Tasmanian Devil's are all dying of some sort of cancer anyway. I do believe it stems from inbreeding. :P Okay, I have no idea what's causing it. I'm just being provocative now!
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Postby Dagnia » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:20 am

Free Tristania wrote:There are always other ways..
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Dear Americans

To the citizens of the United States of America...

In the light of your failure to elect a proper President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. (Except Utah, which she does not fancy.) Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable David Cameron, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee'). You will learn that the suffix 'burgh is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed". There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u'.

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to Cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. A Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. B Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2011. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders" which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "Shit". You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager".

The substances formerly known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnats' Urine", with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Gnats' Urine". This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

13. From December 1st the UK will harmonise petrol (or "Gasoline" as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2012) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices roughly $6/US gallon - get used to it).

14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).
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This looks like copypasta. Even if it is not it looks eerily familiar. But I'll bite.

1. Our spelling system is rooted in our history. In addition, the English language is hundreds of years old and is constantly evolving in both its written and spoken form. Standardization did not come about until the late 18th century. As for bleeps over obscene things on shows, I kinda agree.

2. See above.

3. Why do you insist on standardized spelling for things that really make no difference, but want us to learn a hundred dialects? Sometimes a dialect might as well be a different language. Anyone who knows Arabic knows that Moroccans, Egyptians and Kuwaitis cannot understand each other unless they can do it in the formal dialect. And they do have variations in writing too, though the dialects are rarely written (they use the variations even when communicating in formal Arabic). For example, Egyptians typically eliminate two dots found under the letter ي (y) when it is at the end of a word.

4. (a) That should be left up to the people hiring the actors. (b) No problem with that. Same as with bleeps over obscene things.

5. No

6. The Superbowl gets aroud 1 billion viewers. We only have 300 million people. More people outside our country like the game than there are people inside our country.

7. Quebec is a province of Canada, a nation that is a dominion of yours. As for guns, I am keeping mine so you don't ever get to impose the ideas expressed in your post on us.

8. No

9. Oh, because British cars score so high on reliability ratings. I drive a Japanese car anyway. I support roundabouts (we have them here) because they reduce things like the need to break and speed up again, wasting fuel. Our arbitrary imperial system of measures got us to the moon.

10. Most of this is just your problems with our dialect again. And restaurants have so many variations on fries or chips that if you look hard enough you will find some to your liking.

Not gonna bother with all of them, as I am tired, so I will pick a few more to answer at this point.

13. Obama's already doing that.

14. Agree. Psychiatrists are mostly quacks and we need a loser-pays legal system. As for my guns, I don't fit into any category that is going to sue or see a therapist, so I think I am adult enough to handle them.

15. Who cares. He was actually a lousy, corrupt president who probably deserved it. The only reason anyone remembers him is because he was shot. It is why whenever there is a person I hate in an office, I want him/her to serve out the term without even an attempt on his/her life. Otherwise that person ends up as a hero for doing little more than getting killed.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:35 am

Australien wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
But...but...without Tasmania, there's no Tasmanian devil. Look at him, look at him in the eyes, can you say that now with a straight face? Not to mention I understand him as well as I do any other Aussie I've ever met. :lol2:

The real Tasmanian Devil's are all dying of some sort of cancer anyway. I do believe it stems from inbreeding. :P Okay, I have no idea what's causing it. I'm just being provocative now!


Do you not have a soul man? Those species were cartooninized (yeah, I just made it up, english is a living language, whatever other Sarah Palin BS I'm paraphrasing), they have to be preserved for the cartoons!

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Postby Terra Australasia » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:39 am

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Australien wrote:The real Tasmanian Devil's are all dying of some sort of cancer anyway. I do believe it stems from inbreeding. :P Okay, I have no idea what's causing it. I'm just being provocative now!


Do you not have a soul man? Those species were cartooninized (yeah, I just made it up, english is a living language, whatever other Sarah Palin BS I'm paraphrasing), they have to be preserved for the cartoons!


Don't do it! Please, Tasmania must live! If only for the innocent devils!

Get rid of New South Wales! I think New South Wales is redundant anyway.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:42 am

Terra Australasia wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Do you not have a soul man? Those species were cartooninized (yeah, I just made it up, english is a living language, whatever other Sarah Palin BS I'm paraphrasing), they have to be preserved for the cartoons!


Don't do it! Please, Tasmania must live! If only for the innocent devils!

Get rid of New South Wales! I think New South Wales is redundant anyway.


But it has the Sydney Opera House, I mean that, along with kangaroos and koala bears, are Australia's national....stuff.

Okay quick question, I want a Koala bear, I'm going to name it Herbert, how do I proceed?

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Postby Rougeville » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:52 am

Zinkovy wrote:Alaska, which should be returned to Russia (There are still a numer of eastern orthodox christians there, and it used to be their colony)

Actually, if Alaska was not sold to the United States, Britain would have taken it from Russia and it would be part of Canada now.

I wonder if Hawaii would have been annexed if Alaska was not purchased.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:54 am

Rougeville wrote:
Zinkovy wrote:Alaska, which should be returned to Russia (There are still a numer of eastern orthodox christians there, and it used to be their colony)

Actually, if Alaska was not sold to the United States, Britain would have taken it from Russia and it would be part of Canada now.

I wonder if Hawaii would have been annexed if Alaska was not purchased.


Yes. The circumstances nearly required it [look at an earlier post of mine for explanation]. I doubt Alaska would have made a difference, if not instead made annexation of Hawaii quicker.

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Postby Fiddlegreen Farms » Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:07 am

Utah - A black hole :)
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Postby Mirandea » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:10 am

Texas, because they want to secede anyways. :)

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Postby The Cold Place » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:26 am

Oklahoma, trade it for a Canadian province or a part of Mexico.

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Postby Inertina » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:35 am

Tough topic!

Hmmm, it's so hard to call, but Utah? Probably my main call, but there's also West Virginia and Alabama/Mississippi to choose from..

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Postby JuNii » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:37 am

Alaisia wrote:Hey, pointless fun question:

If the USA had to lose a state, which one would you rather it be? And who would you rather we lose it to?


yeah, so i'm bored. sue me :)

... I hope the USA looses the state of Denial.

I don't care who picks it up.
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Postby Neo Arcad » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:37 am

Geographically, I say Maine, it's practically part of Canada anyway and nobody cares about it.
Otherwise, the Communist haven that is California. Worst state ever.
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