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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:04 am

South Norfair wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:Texas, Alabama or Georgia.

If I were an American, I would not think advantageous to lose those states. You guys got far more useless states than those.

But from an outsider perspective, give Alaska back to Russia, or Lousiana back to the French. For the sake of historical accuracy 8)


Really?

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United Dependencies wrote:Where's inda? Or Russa for that matter?

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Postby Wiztopia » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:14 am

Bears Armed wrote:Oklahoma [excluding the 'panhandle', which got added later) was originally supposed to be reserved for Native Americans, and so was South Dakota, so maybe the USA should try living up to its forebears' promises and renounce ownership (and remove the settlers' descendants) from one or both of those?


No.

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Postby Stattr » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:16 am

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:
South Norfair wrote:If I were an American, I would not think advantageous to lose those states. You guys got far more useless states than those.

But from an outsider perspective, give Alaska back to Russia, or Lousiana back to the French. For the sake of historical accuracy 8)


Really?

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Alabama, along with her neighbors, appears to be in the absolute bottom bracket on every metric of human development. Bottom 5 in education, bottom 5 in median income, bottom 5 in Human Development, and more than likely bottom 5 in a lot of other things.

why?
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:37 am

Stattr wrote:
Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:
Really?

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Alabama, along with her neighbors, appears to be in the absolute bottom bracket on every metric of human development. Bottom 5 in education, bottom 5 in median income, bottom 5 in Human Development, and more than likely bottom 5 in a lot of other things.

why?


Extreme poverty, most likely. A highly corrupt government that has no interest in social programs or their improvement is another one. It seems that the Republican party has been engaging in their typical tactic of starving the beast to prove public education doesn't work, or some other nonsense. Alabama has also always had a rather large black population, which through oppression(jim crow, etc,) and apathy is largely uneducated or less educated than national average, and is less likely to find work either through discrimination(a white felon is as likely to get hired as a black man with a clean record for the same job,) or through a lack of marketable skills.

Another important point to make note of is that the industrial economy which allowed the North the conditions to set up a social safety net and create a good regulatory atmosphere had only just started moving into the state when our industry began shipping itself overseas and across the southern border. Birmingham, Alabama had an infant steel industry since the early 20th century, but it never had time to expand before the Reaganites came into power and people like Roger Smith, who viewed industry solely as a means to his own profit, became the norm throughout the country and began shipping entire factories to Mexico and China wholesale, laying off millions of people and destroying our major cities(Detroit was once the manufacturing capital of America, believe it or not.)
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United Dependencies wrote:Where's inda? Or Russa for that matter?

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Postby Lucatopia » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:46 am

Cede Texas to the Germans. 8)
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Postby Stattr » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:12 pm

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:
Stattr wrote:why?


Extreme poverty, most likely. A highly corrupt government that has no interest in social programs or their improvement is another one. It seems that the Republican party has been engaging in their typical tactic of starving the beast to prove public education doesn't work, or some other nonsense. Alabama has also always had a rather large black population, which through oppression(jim crow, etc,) and apathy is largely uneducated or less educated than national average, and is less likely to find work either through discrimination(a white felon is as likely to get hired as a black man with a clean record for the same job,) or through a lack of marketable skills.

Another important point to make note of is that the industrial economy which allowed the North the conditions to set up a social safety net and create a good regulatory atmosphere had only just started moving into the state when our industry began shipping itself overseas and across the southern border. Birmingham, Alabama had an infant steel industry since the early 20th century, but it never had time to expand before the Reaganites came into power and people like Roger Smith, who viewed industry solely as a means to his own profit, became the norm throughout the country and began shipping entire factories to Mexico and China wholesale, laying off millions of people and destroying our major cities(Detroit was once the manufacturing capital of America, believe it or not.)

i live in Michigan..i live right next to Detroit....so i do believe it...
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Postby Barrasso » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:47 pm

South Norfair wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:Texas, Alabama or Georgia.

If I were an American, I would not think advantageous to lose those states. You guys got far more useless states than those.

But from an outsider perspective, give Alaska back to Russia, or Lousiana back to the French. For the sake of historical accuracy 8)

Im an American i would never give alaska to anyone for any amount of mony until the Oil runs out....
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:49 pm

South Norfair wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:Texas, Alabama or Georgia.

If I were an American, I would not think advantageous to lose those states. You guys got far more useless states than those.

But from an outsider perspective, give Alaska back to Russia, or Lousiana back to the French. For the sake of historical accuracy 8)

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I think that'd be a little tougher than you might think, :p

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Postby Martinius Isle » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:48 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
*sigh*

So which state are you in?


Virginia..?

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Postby Stattr » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:32 pm

Maurepas wrote:
South Norfair wrote:If I were an American, I would not think advantageous to lose those states. You guys got far more useless states than those.

But from an outsider perspective, give Alaska back to Russia, or Lousiana back to the French. For the sake of historical accuracy 8)

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I think that'd be a little tougher than you might think, :p

yeah...it will be hard...might not even try if you where smart enough and you know your history...
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Postby Wonstien » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:07 pm

Hyperlogos wrote:
Felids wrote:I'm not American, but I'd say lose Hawaii, make it independent.

You'd, of course, get an excuse to expel Obama early, and it isn't like Hawaii actually does anything with its statehood.


It couldn't expel Obama because of the chronology involved, but other than that, you're spot on. One good volcanic event and Hawaii is over. Might as well give it back now.


But- what about all the US military based on Hawai'i?
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Postby President Mathias » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:51 pm

Wonstien wrote:
Hyperlogos wrote:
It couldn't expel Obama because of the chronology involved, but other than that, you're spot on. One good volcanic event and Hawaii is over. Might as well give it back now.


But- what about all the US military based on Hawai'i?

According to Wiztopia, it doesn't matter. We should be best buddies with those reds. (NOTE: I have pointed that out before, he didn't give a rat's ass. I pointed it out earlier in the thread.)

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Postby Veruxia » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:52 pm

Maine, no one will ever know the state was lost.
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Postby President Mathias » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:58 pm

Veruxia wrote:Maine, no one will ever know the state was lost.

So every person who lives in Maine wouldn't know the state government had seceded? :eyebrow:
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Postby Veruxia » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:04 am

President Mathias wrote:
Veruxia wrote:Maine, no one will ever know the state was lost.

So every person who lives in Maine wouldn't know the state government had seceded? :eyebrow:
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I'm just bs'ing ya!(No I am not a hillbilly.) :p

lol, it's the land area that borders New Brunswick that makes the state look hidden, lol..
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Postby Nuvalia » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:19 am

The buttlick that suggested the southern states were worst off, indeed feel free to fuck yourself. Considering that map is a waste of time. You are obviously a person who lacks a view of his or her own country. The northern states are in fact shutting down economically and population wise. The popluation is moving south west ;) Also since the Civil War which was idk 100 years ago the south has boomed ahead of the northern states in not only GDP, Population, but active industrial capacities. You fail to realize that even if that were true we would quickly grow rich considering we control over 71% of the nations oil and 84% of it's natural gas. Hahaha i laughed when he said extreme poverty and a "highly corrupt" government. That ole northern ignorance towards the south still hasn't dissolved ole be stupid. I can guarantee you that if we in deed split off with the north, we dont even need arizona, california, and new mexico we would easily survive. anyways have fun with your baseless argument dumbasses. you probably won't even read any of this.

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Postby President Mathias » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:30 am

Nuvalia wrote:The buttlick that suggested the southern states were worst off, indeed feel free to fuck yourself. Considering that map is a waste of time. You are obviously a person who lacks a view of his or her own country. The northern states are in fact shutting down economically and population wise. The popluation is moving south west ;) Also since the Civil War which was idk 100 years ago the south has boomed ahead of the northern states in not only GDP, Population, but active industrial capacities. You fail to realize that even if that were true we would quickly grow rich considering we control over 71% of the nations oil and 84% of it's natural gas. Hahaha i laughed when he said extreme poverty and a "highly corrupt" government. That ole northern ignorance towards the south still hasn't dissolved ole be stupid. I can guarantee you that if we in deed split off with the north, we dont even need arizona, california, and new mexico we would easily survive. anyways have fun with your baseless argument dumbasses. you probably won't even read any of this.

Sadly, besides your poor grammar, your very correct. from what I saw of that map, only liberal states were considered 'progressive'. It is a biased map, therefore, it should be disregarded. While I know that nothing is unbiased, I will point out that when it is that blatantly obvious, you really can't blame me for disregarding it. To the conservative states, that map was backwards!

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Postby Wiztopia » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:59 am

President Mathias wrote:
Wonstien wrote:
But- what about all the US military based on Hawai'i?

According to Wiztopia, it doesn't matter. We should be best buddies with those reds. (NOTE: I have pointed that out before, he didn't give a rat's ass. I pointed it out earlier in the thread.)


So if we got rid of Hawaii we would become communist?

Nuvalia wrote:The buttlick that suggested the southern states were worst off, indeed feel free to fuck yourself. Considering that map is a waste of time. You are obviously a person who lacks a view of his or her own country. The northern states are in fact shutting down economically and population wise. The popluation is moving south west ;) Also since the Civil War which was idk 100 years ago the south has boomed ahead of the northern states in not only GDP, Population, but active industrial capacities. You fail to realize that even if that were true we would quickly grow rich considering we control over 71% of the nations oil and 84% of it's natural gas. Hahaha i laughed when he said extreme poverty and a "highly corrupt" government. That ole northern ignorance towards the south still hasn't dissolved ole be stupid. I can guarantee you that if we in deed split off with the north, we dont even need arizona, california, and new mexico we would easily survive. anyways have fun with your baseless argument dumbasses. you probably won't even read any of this.


The south wouldn't survive because the U.S. would just invade and take it over again.

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Postby President Mathias » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:35 am

Wiztopia wrote:
President Mathias wrote:According to Wiztopia, it doesn't matter. We should be best buddies with those reds. (NOTE: I have pointed that out before, he didn't give a rat's ass. I pointed it out earlier in the thread.)


So if we got rid of Hawaii we would become communist?

Nuvalia wrote:The buttlick that suggested the southern states were worst off, indeed feel free to fuck yourself. Considering that map is a waste of time. You are obviously a person who lacks a view of his or her own country. The northern states are in fact shutting down economically and population wise. The popluation is moving south west ;) Also since the Civil War which was idk 100 years ago the south has boomed ahead of the northern states in not only GDP, Population, but active industrial capacities. You fail to realize that even if that were true we would quickly grow rich considering we control over 71% of the nations oil and 84% of it's natural gas. Hahaha i laughed when he said extreme poverty and a "highly corrupt" government. That ole northern ignorance towards the south still hasn't dissolved ole be stupid. I can guarantee you that if we in deed split off with the north, we dont even need arizona, california, and new mexico we would easily survive. anyways have fun with your baseless argument dumbasses. you probably won't even read any of this.


The south wouldn't survive because the U.S. would just invade and take it over again.


We wouldn't become communist. I never said we would. I simply said that you and some others didn't think that China was a threat to the U.S., or any other parts of the Far East for that matter, and that we should rely on Japan to defend us if any of them try to launch a naval invasion.

Also:

You know what? I'm finally going to do it. I'm going to post why I think Wiztopia has been trolling this thread. NOTE: I have not slept for way too long so I probably am trolling, but this guy has annoyed the crap out of me.

EDIT: There goes another hour of sleep...

Wiztopia wrote:Texas. We would be better without it.


His honest opinion, page 35, I don't hold it against him.


Wiztopia wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:
I'll say it again...Oil

I hope Texas leaves, and becomes prosperous when it no longer has all this dead weight to support


The U.S. average intelligence would raise without Texas.


Okay, again, he is stating his opinion and I don't hold it against him. (page 35)


Wiztopia wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:IQ maybe, but what good are test scores anyway?


I'm just purposely being asinine about their policies. Such as cutting out Thomas Jefferson from textbooks for not being Christian enough. Along with some Texans I know who are against abortion for any reason.


Stating his reasons is not bad, so I don't hold it against him. (page 35)


Wiztopia wrote:
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:I'd have to say New York, or New Jersey.

Whenever someone is weaving in & out of traffic at 100 miles an hour in a 55 or 65 MPH zone, it's almost alway someone from New York or New Jersey.

Some of the rudest people in the county are from the most populated parts of those states.

I was once pumping gas in South Carolina & I could hear the sound of a woodpecker, is was so quiet & peaceful, then a car pulled up with New York plates. The driver got out leaving his motor running & the passenger threw the car's trash out the window & into the lot. There was a trash can in plane view & just a handful of steps away from the car.

I walk over & picked up the New Yorker's trash & threw it into the can, looking at him the whole time, not one sign of remorse, no show of thanks, just a scumbag with no respect on how other people live. Of course, not all people from those states are like that, but if you grew up in the southeast, you know someone with disrespect on the roads, more than likely has New York or New Jersey plates, most likely going to Florida or back home from FLA.

I imagine when I travel up that way doing the speed limit the locals think "I wish this slow hick would get off the road!"


Yeah I know. Litterers are totally scumbags.

Brewdomia wrote:
Everything above the Mason-Dixon Line keeps the country intelligent. Aside from Massachusetts of course.


Massachusetts can't be unintelligent because they allow gay marriage.

Anyway I still say Texas so I'll just post what I said in another thread. For allowing religion in schools and getting rid of Thomas Jefferson in textbooks for not being Christian enough.


While biased by saying that only intelligent people allow gay marriage, I don't hold anything against him for pointing out more reasons about Texas. (page 37)


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AETEN II wrote:Arizona. All it does is make America look like a country of assholes. Besides, the place seems to spawn right-wing nuts.


How did you mix up Arizona and Texas?


He starts to insult Texas over and over after this. (page 39)


Wiztopia wrote:
Greenland007bon wrote:Yes... This guy/girl proves that the rest of the world has no idea what goes on in Texas

Except mexico, they still love us, even though we threw a fit and left them


I know what goes on in Texas. Allowing religion in schools and getting rid of Thomas Jefferson in textbooks for not being Christian enough.


Says why he dislikes Texas, again. (page 39)

Wiztopia wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:New Yorkers aren't rude, they're just... Different. They don't really care about smiling at each other and being "friendly" because it's just unnecessary and a waste of time. Why talk to a perfect stranger on the subway when you can just listen to your ipod and block the world out. Plus, don't we deserve it? We are one of the safest cities in the country after all. Oh and by the way, it's only really the city and the surrounding suburbs that are like this, once you get to the exurbs and beyond people are a bit friendlier and will actually acknowledge your existence (mostly because there's nothing else to do here (yes, right now I live in the exurbs, but I'll probably be moving back in a year for college)).

Also, what's with all the hate towards Texas? It's becoming a major hub for tech companies, especially software developers. There's a reason they're calling the area around Austin the "Silicon Hills" and Dallas the "Silicon Prairie". There are also a good amount of liberal moving there too, the ultra conservative movement has been losing ground there, last time I checked.



Again "For allowing religion in schools and getting rid of Thomas Jefferson in textbooks for not being Christian enough." That is why Texas sucks.


He says it once more. (page 40)


Wiztopia wrote:
Hegstoria wrote: Really? Are you so thick headed that you think Texas is worthless? Tell that to the countless software coprporations with offices and headquarters around Dallas and Austin. Tell that to the countless cattle, sheep, and goat farmers. The countless grain and cotton farmers. The plethora of fishing companies down there. Let's not forget they also lead in concrete, limestone, and sandstone production/mining. So yeah, Texas is one of the more important states out there.


Texas is completely worthless. I already posted how it is here:

viewtopic.php?p=5276343#p5276343


Insults Texas again. (page 45)


Wiztopia wrote:
Hegstoria wrote:You sound like one of my friends. It is an acknowledged word by most experts, it's just that it was created by pretentious Victorian scholars who wanted to sound smarter, so they made regardless longer. It's a pointless word, true, but it's still a word. And I love the way it sounds lol.

No, those are reasons why they're policy makers are inept. Not why the state as a whole is worthless.


Who do you think voted them in? Also the religion in school thing is always bullshit. I heard that they even teach creationism in public schools but I have yet to see if that was true or not. But knowing Texas, I wouldn't be surprised

Novikov wrote:Michigan should go to Canada. Because I live there, and I'm sick of the US Government's crap.


The government is evilz oh noez!!!!1


Insults Texas again. (page 46)


Wiztopia wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Plus natural resources. People are just biased by stereotypes they've heard of it.


They're all true except the cowboy one.


And again. (page 46)


Wiztopia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Why?


Homophobic, Sarah Palin, Homophobic.


Insults more 'conservative states'. (page 47)

Wiztopia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Granted, but Alaska has oil, so we'd have to invade them if they were independent anyway. I don't know that Hawaii is all that much more homophobic that many other states. Florida, yes, they do seem to be rather more so than most.


Check out my list a few posts before. Most of them I mentioned because of some form of homophobia/stupidity.


Insults them again (page 47)

Wiztopia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Most states suffer from homophobia, but I do believe the tide is turning on that. Stupidity is, well, pretty subjective.


Son of a bitch. How the fuck did I forget to put Texas on my list? Also stupidity like Utah passing a law banning miscarriage and Texas allowing religion into public schools.


Once more. (page 47)


Wiztopia wrote:
Tipidemica wrote:Hey, bro. I will want to kindly tell you that I am 16 and I LIVE IN FLORIDA! IT IS FULL OF STUPID IMMIGRANTS WHO HOLD BACK EDUCATION. So don't diss Florida, we have our faults. OH WAIT! WE DON'T! (Earthquake Fault Line Joke)


Immigrants isn't the reason why Florida sucks. It sucks because it is full of homophobic morons.


Insults conservative states again. (page 50)


Wiztopia wrote:
Chino-Japan wrote:By losing Texas the U.S. would lose ten percent of it's population and many natural resources, which would be an idiotic move.
I say lose Illinois, it can go to Canada.


It also loses about 25% of homophobes and 30% of people who think religion should be taught in public schools.


While pointing out reasons, he has done nothing but troll this. (page 54)


Wiztopia wrote:
Asterdan wrote:
What do you have against North Carolina? I mean, I'd gladly support it becoming independent but still.


Homophobia for one.


Insulting again. (page 55)


Wiztopia wrote:
Pushan wrote:Texas why? Because for one thing we're (i'm texan) much better off than the other states and we have plenty of resorces and more. Plus smart people


I think your definition of "smart people" is way off base.


Insults Texas again due to his political bias (That anyone who is not a liberal elite, such as him, is an idiot). (page 58)

We then fight out our ideologies on page 59.

Wiztopia wrote:
Sucrati wrote:
And your story just presented bias that the anti-abortion advocates or 'pro life' are racist god fearing rapists, wow, can you come up with something that isn't about race or another category to use as a political advantage?

Back on the subject

I have an idea, why don't we lose the welfare state (What it's a state of dependency within the USA, if not the world)


No. I'm using the bad argument of "what if the person aborted would have been a mass murderer?" Which counters the horrible "What if the person aborted would have cured cancer?" argument. If anything pro-lifers are anti women's rights.


Tries to insult me by saying that I am "anti women's rights", which I am not. (page 60)

Wiztopia wrote:
Principia Moderni wrote:
Why's North Carolina on there?


Homophobia and racism.


Insults conservative States again. (page 62)

Wiztopia wrote:
Sucrati wrote:
1. That's what the process of Democracy gives us, people who represent those who voted them in, regardless of political bias, one side gets what they want, isn't that obvious... well, if the left doesn't get what they want they turn to violence and fear (yes, fear, not facts), but the right holds peaceful protests (Tea Parties) it's the detractors that spread lies that so many follow blindly.
2. No, the law specifically mentions that someone needs to be committing a TRAFFIC VIOLATION to be pulled over, then when they are pulled over, their license and other 'documents' that you have to have in your car (Registration and Insurance) will be checked to ensure one is a Citizen or legal immigrant. That or the person has to be committing a CRIME in order to be checked up on.
3. No, the Corporate Tax is passed onto the consumer, which raises prices for all those involved, if we rework the tax code and allow only a fair (consumption) tax to be instituted, everyone gets all the money they earn in their paychecks which would offset the price rise (only a slight rise), plus we would get more businesses opening up/reopening up here in the USA, whether it would be in a right to work or a union state.


1) The people are morons. Get rid of them along with the state.

2) You're forgetting that Jan Brewer herself ended Hispanic studies? That is pure racism. She is a racist bitch.

3) They would still pay taxes even if nothing was taken from a paycheck.


Insults conservatives once again. (page 63)

Wiztopia wrote:
Sucrati wrote:
1. Getting rid of the so called 'idiots' is genocide, you're right, or forced relocation.

2. I'm pretty sure that it isn't because of the immigration thing, but with the program's idea of teaching it's students to give land back to Mexico that was obtained by the USA, stop it with the race issue, it's your side that can't seem to leave it alone

3. That's why we need a Fair Tax, people will still pay taxes, but they get more money from not being taxed on income.


1) No its letting them secede

2) Which is bullshit. That never happened and it only happened because of racism. There is absolutely no denying that.

3) Which makes no sense. If no income was ever taxed they would not get any money unless you seriously think buying something is enough tax.


Insults conservative states once more. (page 63)

Wiztopia wrote:
Faelq wrote:
I could not possibly disagree with the premise of this statement more. Are you insane? Puerto Rico? "Yes, let's give up one of the only states worth a shit so we can have the butthole of the entire world in its place."

Puerto frickin' Rico. Gimme a break.


I find it hilarious you think Texas is worth anything.


Insults Texas again. (page 63)

Wiztopia wrote:
Sucrati wrote:
1. Yes, people would care, all you care about is ensuring your side rules without opposition, a nice way to say you want a one party state, I don't think so.

2. When students were PROTESTING and police were called in to settle them down several times about the same issue of 'Mexican Lands', I highly doubt nothing happened, plus it wasn't the Governor that banned the class, it was the Attorney General, plus it only affects, ONE district (Tuscon Primarily)

3. People have NEEDS, aka, eating, clothing, transportation, and other necessities that are bought at regular intervals at any retailer or other center of shopping, tell me again that we are automatrons that require no maintenance?


1)Actually I want equal rights and people not being morons so getting rid of homophobes and pro-lifers would be the way to go.

2) Which would have nothing to do about a Hispanic Studies class. She approved it. They're all racist.

3) I said hardly buy anything. There are many people who don't buy more than they need. Taxing actual income makes more sense than just taxing sold items. Besides if that was the case they would just raise taxes on shit sold by a shitload.


Insults conservative states again. (page 63)


Wiztopia wrote:
Indeos wrote:
1. Actually, it wouldn't. Everyone should have an equal right to their opinion, regardless of what that opinion is.


Let them have their stupid opinions. Don't let them pass laws infringing on women's rights or gay rights.


Insults conservatives in general. (page 64)

Wiztopia wrote:
Indeos wrote:
That's how diplomacy works. If they have the support and ability to pass those laws, they can do whatever the hell they want. (I'm speaking as a bisexual, by the way. Just in case you were about to assume I'm fine with gay rights being infringed upon.)


That's why we get rid of those people.


In short, calling for a holocaust of conservatives. (page 64)

Wiztopia wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:What's up with the hate for Cali?


They're homophobes and hate San Francisco.


Insults conservatives again. (page 67)

Wiztopia wrote:
Lord Tothe wrote:I'd like to see the US lose the State of Terror all government officials seem to want us to keep.


That's an interesting name for Texas.


Need I say anything? (page 67)

Wiztopia wrote:
Nuvalia wrote:

Texas and my Louisiana would would do perfect independent. Both States have mighty energy fields not to mention a booming agricultural, shipping, and manufacturing center. Texas has world class infrastructure and is rich in energy. Louisiana has many Oil and Natural Gas Rigs of it's coast and the refineries and massive ports to handle the volume. Not to mention all the money to be made of the taxes used to access our ports won't go to the federal government instead it would go to state coffers. Texas and Louisiana if they were allowed to buy all federal owned property in their territories could effectively say fuck you to the fed and be perfectly independent.


Texas is rich in homophobia and creationism too.


Again. (page 70)


Wiztopia wrote:
The Anti-Cosmic Gods wrote:Why would you waste your "pick one state" on Texas, a state most likely to secede on its own anyway? And good riddance too; I say once they do we inform Mexico that we owe Texas nothing, and if they want that land back they're entitled to it. The idea of those racist hicks living under a Mexican government helps me sleep easier at night.


The bigger problem is their homophobia and trying to get creationism taught in classrooms.


Again. (page 72)


Wiztopia wrote:
Santhene wrote:Texas. Being one of the more successful states (or so I'm told) it would be fun to see the US descend into a state of anarchy and chaos.


No. The U.S. would ascend into a state of knowledge.


Again. (page 76)
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Postby President Mathias » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:30 pm

Texas. Because they took Jefferson out of the history books for not being Christian enough. :P

Did I kill the thread with my last post?


Wiztopia wrote:
President Mathias wrote:According to Wiztopia, it doesn't matter. We should be best buddies with those reds. (NOTE: I have pointed that out before, he didn't give a rat's ass. I pointed it out earlier in the thread.)


So if we got rid of Hawaii we would become communist?

Nuvalia wrote:The buttlick that suggested the southern states were worst off, indeed feel free to fuck yourself. Considering that map is a waste of time. You are obviously a person who lacks a view of his or her own country. The northern states are in fact shutting down economically and population wise. The popluation is moving south west ;) Also since the Civil War which was idk 100 years ago the south has boomed ahead of the northern states in not only GDP, Population, but active industrial capacities. You fail to realize that even if that were true we would quickly grow rich considering we control over 71% of the nations oil and 84% of it's natural gas. Hahaha i laughed when he said extreme poverty and a "highly corrupt" government. That ole northern ignorance towards the south still hasn't dissolved ole be stupid. I can guarantee you that if we in deed split off with the north, we dont even need arizona, california, and new mexico we would easily survive. anyways have fun with your baseless argument dumbasses. you probably won't even read any of this.


The south wouldn't survive because the U.S. would just invade and take it over again.


No, because your pussy-footing pacifist liberals who don't own guns. We're the redneck hillbillies who do. You'd have to slaughter the civilian population just to put down revolt. In essence, you'd do more damage than intended.
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Postby Beshmakas » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:40 pm

Alaska to Russia though I doubt it will happen. Who cares anyway, Russia's population growth is like -1.5 anyways, it'd be good for them.
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Postby Wiztopia » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:08 pm

President Mathias wrote:Texas. Because they took Jefferson out of the history books for not being Christian enough. :P

Did I kill the thread with my last post?


Wiztopia wrote:
So if we got rid of Hawaii we would become communist?



The south wouldn't survive because the U.S. would just invade and take it over again.


No, because your pussy-footing pacifist liberals who don't own guns. We're the redneck hillbillies who do. You'd have to slaughter the civilian population just to put down revolt. In essence, you'd do more damage than intended.


Doesn't really matter. They would still get taken over again regardless of what happens.

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Postby Namabia » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:20 am

I love how this thread is going.

Liberals ~ Get rid of the Southern States because they are conservative
Conservatives ~ Get rid of the major Liberal States.....
Independents ~ (Random Stuff like Hawaii and Maine)

Biased Opinions ~ Get rid of Arkansas for low development and because we are all hill billy happy with no life and no education.(Which is bull by the way, and I would know because I live here.)
Un-Biased Opinions ~ No one in NS except Reppy and Violet have this.


Tis sad people. There are no useless US States. We like to think that, but it's not true. A lot of the research done anyways is crap. The last time I had someone come to my door and ask about how life was going was years ago......

Edit: Yes your tax report shows your living expenses, income, etc. The State, however, has never came out here with their own eyes and looked around.

Other nationalities : You don't live here, so how would you know?

Cue Liberal Outrage
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Postby Stattr » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:28 pm

i would say...Arizona....
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