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Hobit
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Postby Hobit » Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:50 pm

Hamiltonya wrote:
Hobit wrote:NE = New England. :palm: 1.83 trillion dollars isn't an asset to the economy? Ok, we will take out 53 Fortune 500 companies and our movie industry and leave the union.


New England was not the biggest sector on the map :palm: so I assumed you were talking about the biggest sector, the northeast. P.S. Wikipedia isn't a source.

No it is not the biggest sector size wise, but it is the biggest growth sector, which is what I thought we were arguing about, but apparently your mind is off in some other directions.
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Postby President Mathias » Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:51 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:California gets back 81 cents on every tax dollar it sends to Washington, so, no, it doesn't cost more to "maintain." Not from the Federal perspective, anyway.


Why would California send anything to Washington? Shouldn't they send it to Oregon first since its directly north of it?

I believe he means D.C....

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Postby Nuvalia » Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:42 pm

Here I have the Budget Information from my state lousiana and a less detailed version from Texas.
http://www.texasbudgetsource.com/state/
http://doa.louisiana.gov/opb/pub/FY11/FY10-11_StateBudget.pdf

People General speculation is allowed but when you go into specifics it would be nice if you had a source. And wikipedia is a source if you don't think it is then you need to stop believe what other people say about it and launch your own independent research into it's validity. And since your debating something about California here is there budget.

http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/Enacted/agencies.html

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Postby Hamiltonya » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:07 pm

Hobit wrote:
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New England was not the biggest sector on the map :palm: so I assumed you were talking about the biggest sector, the northeast. P.S. Wikipedia isn't a source.

No it is not the biggest sector size wise, but it is the biggest growth sector, which is what I thought we were arguing about, but apparently your mind is off in some other directions.


New England is not the biggest growth sector. The northeast(mideast?) is the biggest. No one is talking about size, but A for effort.
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Postby Wiztopia » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:12 pm

President Mathias wrote:
Wiztopia wrote:
Why would California send anything to Washington? Shouldn't they send it to Oregon first since its directly north of it?

I believe he means D.C....


She.

Nuvalia wrote:Here I have the Budget Information from my state lousiana and a less detailed version from Texas.
http://www.texasbudgetsource.com/state/
http://doa.louisiana.gov/opb/pub/FY11/FY10-11_StateBudget.pdf

People General speculation is allowed but when you go into specifics it would be nice if you had a source. And wikipedia is a source if you don't think it is then you need to stop believe what other people say about it and launch your own independent research into it's validity. And since your debating something about California here is there budget.

http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/Enacted/agencies.html


You must have been drunk if when you studied it and found Wikipedia to be a good source.

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Postby Hamiltonya » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:50 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Hamiltonya wrote:
How much you create doesn't matter when you still spend more..... California may provide a lot but they cost more to maintain... :palm:

California gets back 81 cents on every tax dollar it sends to Washington, so, no, it doesn't cost more to "maintain." Not from the Federal perspective, anyway.


That source is from 2004. That's before the recession. Try again.

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Postby AlexJacobii » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:02 pm

Ohio. The only thing they ever do is steal from Michigan and Canada. As a Brit I cannot stand by and let them get away with that

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Postby Wiztopia » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:10 pm

AlexJacobii wrote:Ohio. The only thing they ever do is steal from Michigan and Canada. As a Brit I cannot stand by and let them get away with that


That makes no sense.

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Postby Zhelezo » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:12 pm

New York to Canada. I want America to fail.

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Tolanii
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Postby Tolanii » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:17 pm

Maryland. It takes up a lot of the Delmarva peninsula. An unreasonable amount.

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Postby Nuvalia » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:23 pm

Wiztopia wrote:
President Mathias wrote:I believe he means D.C....


She.

Nuvalia wrote:Here I have the Budget Information from my state lousiana and a less detailed version from Texas.
http://www.texasbudgetsource.com/state/
http://doa.louisiana.gov/opb/pub/FY11/FY10-11_StateBudget.pdf

People General speculation is allowed but when you go into specifics it would be nice if you had a source. And wikipedia is a source if you don't think it is then you need to stop believe what other people say about it and launch your own independent research into it's validity. And since your debating something about California here is there budget.

http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/Enacted/agencies.html


You must have been drunk if when you studied it and found Wikipedia to be a good source.



Hey sherlock next time click on the links and find that none of them are wikipedia. maybe you were drunk when you read my post.

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Postby Wiztopia » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:33 pm

Nuvalia wrote:
Wiztopia wrote:
She.



You must have been drunk if when you studied it and found Wikipedia to be a good source.



Hey sherlock next time click on the links and find that none of them are wikipedia. maybe you were drunk when you read my post.


"And wikipedia is a source if you don't think it is then you need to stop believe what other people say about it and launch your own independent research into it's validity. And since your debating something about California here is there budget."

I know alcohol makes people forgetful but damn.

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Postby Nuvalia » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:40 pm

Wiztopia wrote:
Nuvalia wrote:

Hey sherlock next time click on the links and find that none of them are wikipedia. maybe you were drunk when you read my post.


"And wikipedia is a source if you don't think it is then you need to stop believe what other people say about it and launch your own independent research into it's validity. And since your debating something about California here is there budget."

I know alcohol makes people forgetful but damn.


The only thing there is to damn is your ignorance, but that isn't point to make in my participation in this thread. My point is that Texas and Louisiana would be perfectly well off independent. That's all, I direct further comments regarding this wikipedia misunderstanding to the Ministry of Tobusytonotgiveafuckanymore.

Thank you

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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:43 pm

Wiztopia wrote:
President Mathias wrote:I believe he means D.C....


She.

Nuvalia wrote:Here I have the Budget Information from my state lousiana and a less detailed version from Texas.
http://www.texasbudgetsource.com/state/
http://doa.louisiana.gov/opb/pub/FY11/FY10-11_StateBudget.pdf

People General speculation is allowed but when you go into specifics it would be nice if you had a source. And wikipedia is a source if you don't think it is then you need to stop believe what other people say about it and launch your own independent research into it's validity. And since your debating something about California here is there budget.

http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/Enacted/agencies.html


You must have been drunk if when you studied it and found Wikipedia to be a good source.

What's so bad about wikipedia?
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Postby Saint Ferdinand » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:45 pm

California. It would be interesting to no longer be part of the United States.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:47 pm

Saint Ferdinand wrote:California. It would be interesting to no longer be part of the United States.

It would. Plus we'd probably have more of our money back.
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Postby Kwewu » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:49 pm

Which one has the most Liberals? That one.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:52 pm

Kwewu wrote:Which one has the most Liberals? That one.

Nah, we need to lose the one with the most conservatives.
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Postby West fiji » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:52 pm

we should lose southern california because of its diversity and different political views

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Postby Canadian Davsland » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:57 pm

I think either California or Texas.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:03 am

West fiji wrote:we should lose southern california because of its diversity and different political views

Diversity and liberalism is awesome.

Canadian Davsland wrote:I think either California or Texas.

Why California?
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Postby United States of Cascadia » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:04 am

... Then it should completely balkanize. Cascadia can be more than a dream then, it can be a great, and powerful nation! :)

Or California, Texas, and Quebec should all secede and merge into one country. :rofl: :rofl:
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:26 am

The United States of Cascadia said "... Then it should completely balkanize. Cascadia can be more than a dream then, it can be a great, and powerful nation!"

If Cascadia separated it would be in the top 20 economies in the world. I support Cascadia becoming independent as long as British Columbia can join. Acording to the Cascadian Independence Project website it said it would be BC, Washington, and Oregon.
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Postby United States of Cascadia » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:32 am

Canadian Davsland wrote:If Cascadia separated it would be in the top 20 economies in the world. I support Cascadia becoming independent as long as British Columbia can join. Acording to the Cascadian Independence Project website it said it would be BC, Washington, and Oregon.

BC should definitely be a part of it, I just don't see it Cascadia happening anytime soon, and probably not in my life time (assuming immortality doesn't work out :p ).
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Postby The Corrosian Alliance » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:37 am

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Monatoro wrote:Iowa get rid of all the potatoes means well get rid of all the potato chips and meaning we shall get rid of all the obese people


I think you mean Idaho. Iowa grows corn and soybeans, not a lot of potatoes. Getting rid of the corn would help with obesity, too, though. All that high fructose corn syrup...

Actually Idaho isn't a big producer of potatoes, tourism is actually a major part for us

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