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Postby Servant of God » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:36 pm

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No, why would I be?

Because... Its wrong... To... Uh...

Never mind. Carry on.


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I thought this thread would be about Mario fan-fiction.

I am pleasantly surprised to find it's not. :P
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Postby Central Slavia » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:40 pm

greed and death wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:you have the worst taste in women.

Do I really ?
Yeah even if I had my money I could not afford to go out as much as she would like. (lunch everyday at a restaurant even though she pays her won way is too much.)

Is she *that* pretty that you ignore all of this? I mean, she sounds like 8 year old kids that think that money comes from the ATM in unlimited quantities/
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:40 pm

Olthar wrote:I thought this thread would be about Mario fan-fiction.

I am pleasantly surprised to find it's not. :P

OH Luigi yousa clean ma pipes a so clean.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:44 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
greed and death wrote:Do I really ?
Yeah even if I had my money I could not afford to go out as much as she would like. (lunch everyday at a restaurant even though she pays her won way is too much.)

Is she *that* pretty that you ignore all of this? I mean, she sounds like 8 year old kids that think that money comes from the ATM in unlimited quantities/

Yeah she is really pretty, she makes my heart flutter from just looking at her.
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Postby Qeheleth » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:50 pm

She's going to be disappointed. If she's worth your time, she'll get over her disappointment in a timely matter. There is no point in trying to discuss the matter beforehand, as she doesn't have the life experiences to process what you're saying. Spend a good deal of time making her a handmade gift would be my suggestion. When (not if) she pitches a fit, make it clear you did your best and she's not getting any more than that.

People learn about money slowly, and then only when reality violently slaps them around (how many cars before mumsy and daddykins are done with that stuff? I wonder if they think they get to stop paying their darling's bills when she finishes school or gets a serious boy?). From my own experience - I had a girlfriend basically go into debt to date me once, because she believed that 1) we should split the bill 50-50, 2) she wanted me to pick where we went and what we would do, but 3) I had significantly more money than her, and didn't realize she was smiling at my every suggestion and then living on ramen for the week afterwards. I've also run into ones who think I ought to pay for everything, not because I can (which may or may not be true), but because they've never picked up their own tab in their life and the idea is genuinely incomprehensible to them. They learn or they don't.

A "fair match" should be reckoned not in dollars but in percentages, I think. Splittling a bill 50-50 when one of you makes 25k and one of you makes 75k is seriously exploitive of the poorer one. Most people have to be shown this personally to "get" it though.
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:52 pm

greed and death wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:Is she *that* pretty that you ignore all of this? I mean, she sounds like 8 year old kids that think that money comes from the ATM in unlimited quantities/

Yeah she is really pretty, she makes my heart flutter from just looking at her.

That could be the Heroin talking.
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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:16 pm

greed and death wrote:So I will give details in order to help frame the question. I am dating a fellow classmate from law school. She is an only child and her parents had her later in life, she still lives at home. Everything is really going well she is actually a nice considerate girlfriend except when it comes to my money. Her Birthday is coming up, I am waiting for Veterans Affairs to start paying me my benefit money until then I am broke, she knows this. I suggested to her for her birthday that I cook for her after a trip to the, she rejected this because it was not special enough for her birthday. I feel like she wants me to spend money at least 200 dollars on her for her Birthday, I simply do not have the money( I have 100 for groceries until whenever I get paid). She actually seems incapable of understanding I have bills because she has never lived on her own really (dorms in undergrad but that doesn't count the bills are paid for at beginning of semester).
So two issues for NSG.
1. How do you get the princess to realize I simply can not afford to spend on her like she wants.
2. What on gods green earth is there to do on Long Island or New York City that's affordable and romantic.


1. She won't realize this until she's out on her own and has to pay her own bills. Even then, she may spend TONS of money, not only depleting her own money, but racking up debt on her credit cards. Honestly if I was her parents, I'd kick her out and cut off all funding. Let her slum it up in order to wake her up to the reality of the world.

2. I have nothing to say on this, since I have never been to Long Island or NYC.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:17 pm

greed and death wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:you have the worst taste in women.

Do I really ?
Yeah even if I had my money I could not afford to go out as much as she would like. (lunch everyday at a restaurant even though she pays her won way is too much.)

yes

your girlfriend stories are so horrifying that i always believe they are completely true.
whatever

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:18 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:You pay for women? I refuse. A woman can pay for my services instead.


You haven't charged me anything.
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:19 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:You pay for women? I refuse. A woman can pay for my services instead.


You haven't charged me anything.

Oh way to ruin my business model that doesn't work. :(
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Postby Galloism » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:19 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
greed and death wrote:Do I really ?
Yeah even if I had my money I could not afford to go out as much as she would like. (lunch everyday at a restaurant even though she pays her won way is too much.)

yes

your girlfriend stories are so horrifying that i always believe they are completely true.

Heh. You should have been around when I was college-aged.

Man, do I have stories. I have stories that would make your toes curl.
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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:21 pm

greed and death wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:Is she *that* pretty that you ignore all of this? I mean, she sounds like 8 year old kids that think that money comes from the ATM in unlimited quantities/

Yeah she is really pretty, she makes my heart flutter from just looking at her.


Are we sure it's your heart and not your penis?

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:23 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
greed and death wrote:Yeah she is really pretty, she makes my heart flutter from just looking at her.


Are we sure it's your heart and not your penis?

He could have Cardiac dysrhythmia.
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Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!

Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"

New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.

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Postby Galloism » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:23 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
greed and death wrote:Yeah she is really pretty, she makes my heart flutter from just looking at her.


Are we sure it's your heart and not your penis?

Same thing for GnD.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:25 pm

When you mentioned in the OP that she doesn't think cooking for her is special enough I kind of went.. derrrrrr.... I have no idea.
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Postby Arkinesia » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:48 pm

Black Pack wrote:Problem number one can be solved by telling her you simply cannot afford to spend as much as she expects. Should she have a problem with this then show her the door.

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Postby Barringtonia » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:46 pm

Buy her a hooker, should be about $50 so within your budget and you can say you want to expand her horizons.
for her birthday, what better present is there than expanding the mind and learning new things.

The best thing about this idea is that if she storms out you've still got the hooker.
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Postby Central Slavia » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:02 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
greed and death wrote:Yeah she is really pretty, she makes my heart flutter from just looking at her.


Are we sure it's your heart and not your penis?

Did you ever see a fluttering penis?
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:05 pm

If I didn't have the money, I'd tried to explain to her that the gift I got her is symbolic of something (make up some crap). If she was pissed about it, well, I'd get a new girlfriend. Unless of course she's wealthy, really hot, or very kinky in bed.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:10 pm

Barringtonia wrote:Buy her a hooker, should be about $50 so within your budget and you can say you want to expand her horizons.
for her birthday, what better present is there than expanding the mind and learning new things.

The best thing about this idea is that if she storms out you've still got the hooker.

you are like a dating genius or something!

when is your book coming out?
whatever

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:09 pm

Servant of God wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:You weren't kidding...?


No, why would I be?


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Postby Sibirsky » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:43 pm

Servant of God wrote:Dump the bitch, sounds snobby to me. Unless her family is rich and there is a chance of marrying her, then do whatever she fucking wants.

:rofl:
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Postby Sibirsky » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:46 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:yes

your girlfriend stories are so horrifying that i always believe they are completely true.

Heh. You should have been around when I was college-aged.

Man, do I have stories. I have stories that would make your toes curl.

So share. You want me to make a thread for you?
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:46 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:If I didn't have the money, I'd tried to explain to her that the gift I got her is symbolic of something (make up some crap). If she was pissed about it, well, I'd get a new girlfriend. Unless of course she's wealthy, really hot, or very kinky in bed.

tried did not go well, I am depressed.
She is middle class though really hot and kinky in bed.
I was so ready to put my foot down, but then the way she talks i can not say anything against her.
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