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Well?

Legalize it.
55
30%
Nah, fuck no. Fuck the fuck off!
110
60%
Legalize it, but only under specific conditions (please explain).
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Total votes : 182

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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:43 pm

My knee jerk reaction is OMYGOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME! But my rationailty says, people have a right to do what they want.

It still makes me want even more to move to Israel.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
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Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Dusty Angels
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Postby Dusty Angels » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:43 pm

I find it utterly sick, I wouldn't allow such people in my country.
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Innsmothe
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Postby Innsmothe » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:44 pm

Gagatron wrote:My knee jerk reaction is OMYGOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME! But my rationailty says, people have a right to do what they want.

It still makes me want even more to move to Israel.


...
I won't say anything.
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

Your political compass
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:45 pm

Innsmothe wrote:
Gagatron wrote:My knee jerk reaction is OMYGOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME! But my rationailty says, people have a right to do what they want.

It still makes me want even more to move to Israel.


...
I won't say anything.

That's good.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Innsmothe
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Postby Innsmothe » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:45 pm

Coccygia wrote:
Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:As long as it doesn't hurt the animal in any way
Freedom FTW!
Poor Americans. So proud of the freedom they think they have.

Yeah, I'm all broke up at about not being able to legally blow a dog.

In the old times, potential kings (was elective back then.) had to make a Mare orgasm, to show their physical fitness. (And show off their penis size.)
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

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Innsmothe
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Postby Innsmothe » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:46 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:
...
I won't say anything.

That's good.

At least you can send me some glass for my new window. *snrrk*
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

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The Western Reaches
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Postby The Western Reaches » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:47 pm

It doesn't have to become socially acceptable and I doubt it ever will, but I reckon that it should be legal. Just don't let us hear about it.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:47 pm

I find bestiality incredibly nasty. However, just because I don't like it doesn't mean it needs to be illegal (I know it is in some US states). To each his/her own. I don't know why someone would like to have sex with a horse or a dog or some other animal, but what they do doesn't affect me.

So mote it be.
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The Murtunian Tribes
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:48 pm

Gagatron wrote:My knee jerk reaction is OMYGOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME! But my rationailty says, people have a right to do what they want.

It still makes me want even more to move to Israel.


What makes you think people have a right do what they want?

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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:48 pm

Innsmothe wrote:
Gagatron wrote:That's good.

At least you can send me some glass for my new window. *snrrk*

I always say what I think, and then people say "Treat people they way you want to be treated." And then they don't say what they think back to me.

Whatever.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:49 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Gagatron wrote:My knee jerk reaction is OMYGOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME! But my rationailty says, people have a right to do what they want.

It still makes me want even more to move to Israel.


What makes you think people have a right do what they want?

I don't know. Everybody here seems to agree.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Old Vester
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Postby Old Vester » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:49 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Gagatron wrote:My knee jerk reaction is OMYGOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME! But my rationailty says, people have a right to do what they want.

It still makes me want even more to move to Israel.


What makes you think people have a right do what they want?

It's pretty much the whole argument. That people have the right to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others.
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The Murtunian Tribes
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:51 pm

Old Vester wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
What makes you think people have a right do what they want?

It's pretty much the whole argument. That people have the right to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others.


I disagree. Aside from the obvious issue that an animal can't legally give consent, it's just wrong. Therefore, fuck off. Why do I feel like this is going to turn into the incest thread again?

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Innsmothe
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Postby Innsmothe » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:52 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:At least you can send me some glass for my new window. *snrrk*

I always say what I think, and then people say "Treat people they way you want to be treated." And then they don't say what they think back to me.

Whatever.


Sorry but I did watch an old boyfriend finally die from leukaemia yesterday so I might be a bit testy.

I didn't mean it as an affront to your character.
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:52 pm

Old Vester wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
What makes you think people have a right do what they want?

It's pretty much the whole argument. That people have the right to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others.


The whole debate concerns whether or not the animal is harmed, of course.

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Innsmothe
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Postby Innsmothe » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:53 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Old Vester wrote:It's pretty much the whole argument. That people have the right to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others.


I disagree. Aside from the obvious issue that an animal can't legally give consent, it's just wrong. Therefore, fuck off. Why do I feel like this is going to turn into the incest thread again?


Oh shush, as long as no visual harm is caused everything is fine.
ان الذي فشل لقتلي فقط يجعلني غريب
"an aledy feshel leqtely feqt yej'eleny gheryeb"
Ronald Reagan: "Well, what do you believe in? Do you want to abolish the rich?"
Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden: "No, I want to abolish the poor."

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

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Old Vester
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Postby Old Vester » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:53 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Old Vester wrote:It's pretty much the whole argument. That people have the right to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others.


I disagree. Aside from the obvious issue that an animal can't legally give consent, it's just wrong. Therefore, fuck off. Why do I feel like this is going to turn into the incest thread again?

Because these kind of threads have at least 1 thing in common with each other: sex. Therefore, after it goes through all the possible things that can be said it ends up on that same factor. Which gives it similar ending to other sex-based threads.
"A man chooses, a slave obeys".-Andrew Ryan
"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity".-George Carlin.
"I want you to kill yourself. I will buy and send you rope". -EmpireErwinRommel
Billy Mays of F7. Current balance in F7CF $104,952.I'm the richest one!!
Mushet wrote:Banned becuse you need to stop being a politically correct nigger lover
Coccygia wrote:Is the unsung original creator of Angry Birds.
The only question I can answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Pxifl3zjg&NR=1. Name in Cat translated by 1000 Cats: Zeˑhsˑr:kxk (kxk = "old") (lit. "the first sanctuary, old and glad")
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:54 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Old Vester wrote:It's pretty much the whole argument. That people have the right to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others.


I disagree. Aside from the obvious issue that an animal can't legally give consent, it's just wrong. Therefore, fuck off. Why do I feel like this is going to turn into the incest thread again?


Why is it wrong? If you can't logically answer that question, then your opinion doesn't really matter, since it's based on a false premise.

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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:54 pm

Innsmothe wrote:
Gagatron wrote:I always say what I think, and then people say "Treat people they way you want to be treated." And then they don't say what they think back to me.

Whatever.


Sorry but I did watch an old boyfriend finally die from leukaemia yesterday so I might be a bit testy.

I didn't mean it as an affront to your character.

I'm sorry if I came of as rude, I'm just a bit under the weather.

Best wishes, I know how it feels to lose a loved one.

And sorry about your window.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:55 pm

Gagatron wrote:My knee jerk reaction is OMYGOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME! But my rationailty says, people have a right to do what they want.

It still makes me want even more to move to Israel.

People in Israel don't know how to fuck animals or something?
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Postby Copenhagen Metropolis » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:55 pm

Coccygia wrote:
Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:As long as it doesn't hurt the animal in any way
Freedom FTW!
Poor Americans. So proud of the freedom they think they have.

Yeah, I'm all broke up at about not being able to legally blow a dog.

I know you are. But I was talking about freedom in a more general sense.

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:56 pm

Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:
Coccygia wrote:Yeah, I'm all broke up at about not being able to legally blow a dog.

I know you are. But I was talking about freedom in a more general sense.

Kinda Off Topic then, yeah?
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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:57 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Gagatron wrote:My knee jerk reaction is OMYGOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME! But my rationailty says, people have a right to do what they want.

It still makes me want even more to move to Israel.

People in Israel don't know how to fuck animals or something?

Religious communities anywhere tend to be more conservative on the idea of "animal fucking".
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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The Murtunian Tribes
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:57 pm

No harm. Ha. Not everything boils down to logic. Some things are just wrong, regardless of logical evidence to the contrary.
Again how does an animal give consent?

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Postby Copenhagen Metropolis » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:57 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:I know you are. But I was talking about freedom in a more general sense.

Kinda Off Topic then, yeah?

Ehm, no?

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