Bestiality.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

I hear dolphins "milk" their mates and supposedly are better in bed than humans...

<.<

Makes me wish I was a dolphin.

No I heard this from a guy who did a dolphin he posted it on a website but the site is defunct now so I can't link it.

Where I learned male dolphins have 14" prehensile penises, and dolphins' thrusts can break the human pelvis.

[The Parkus Empire]

Animals do feel psychological pain, at least mammals and others of similar intelligence do. Take a look at any animal in a rescue shelter and tell me it's not in mental pain. Human intelligence isn't magically unique, it's just the highest in the animal kingdom.

Yeah, if it weren't then we wouldn't feel okay about shooting animals for fun or eating them. A primitive emotion like fear isn't exactly what I meant by "psychological pain", though it certainly is, and it would still be cruel to repeatedly subject an animal to it for pleasure (which we already do in the form of hunting). Do you have any source that shows animals feel strong fear of non-consensual sex? Like a stronger fear than being put on a leash or tethered would cause?

As someone said earlier, even in the cases of animals that can consent, they can't alert authorities to when they have been mistreated on their own, so the choices are make it illegal and only investigate when there is evidence of occurrence, or make it legal and perform constant checks on all pet owners to look for signs of mistreatment.

I guess. But asking animals for consent still seem ridiculous to me, seeing as how we don't ask for it in anything else.

[Copenhagen Metropolis]

Animals are meant to be eaten, petted and tickled, not screwed.

Animals are property.

Do with them as you will.

/liberty

addendum: Animals are not given consent or thought as actual beings, but as property, anyways. Why should we bother giving them rights when they will never truly understand the meaning of them, or be able to communicate with human beings on a meaningful level. Unlike an infant, or even a disabled person, animals have no ability to understand any human concepts such as liberty, rights, and protection from tyranny.

Pain or discomfort in general are not "human concepts", which is why we have human concepts such as animal cruelty laws.

[Dinosaurana]

Anyway, I'm against Bestiality, but considering that I'm a scalie, that may seem... hypocritical.

[Zeth Rekia]

Makes me wish I was a dolphin.

No I heard this from a guy who did a dolphin he posted it on a website but the site is defunct now so I can't link it.

Where I learned male dolphins have 14" prehensile penises, and dolphins' thrusts can break the human pelvis.

*scratches dolphins off the list*

[The Parkus Empire]

Anyway, I'm against Bestiality, but considering that I'm a scalie, that may seem... hypocritical.

Dinotopia.

[Dinosaurana]

Anyway, I'm against Bestiality, but considering that I'm a scalie, that may seem... hypocritical.

Dinotopia.

Eh?

[Xzenomorph]

They're different because animals don't feel one. Trees don't feel physical pain, most animals don't feel psychological pain. As for causing the animal physical pain, I never spoke of such. I was talking about subordinating an animal's body to your will, but not by causing pain in the process. Indeed, riding a horse probably causes a lot more physical discomfort to the animal than sucking its dick would.

As someone said earlier, even in the cases of animals that can consent, they can't alert authorities to when they have been mistreated on their own, so the choices are make it illegal and only investigate when there is evidence of occurrence, or make it legal and perform constant checks on all pet owners to look for signs of mistreatment.

Alternately, we could make it legal and not check unless there's probably cause. People abuse animals all the time. No one checks up on pets to make sure they're not being abused. That would be ridiculous. I don't see that the overdue legalization of bestiality should change that.

I think the issue of consent in bestiality is a non-issue. To deny an animal's ability to communicate with a human is to deny thousands of years of domestication. To deny an animal's ability to communicate sexual desire is human exceptionalism.

I think people are against bestiality because being disgusted by it increases a groups chances of passing its genes along. Therefore, they take offense before considering and then rationalize this offense as much as they feel they need to.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Animals are property.

Do with them as you will.

/liberty

addendum: Animals are not given consent or thought as actual beings, but as property, anyways. Why should we bother giving them rights when they will never truly understand the meaning of them, or be able to communicate with human beings on a meaningful level. Unlike an infant, or even a disabled person, animals have no ability to understand any human concepts such as liberty, rights, and protection from tyranny.

Pain or discomfort in general are not "human concepts", which is why we have human concepts such as animal cruelty laws.

Which is why you use lube, don't bite, and don't slap.

[Phalnia]

Does using sheepskin condoms count as bestiality?

[The Parkus Empire]

Dinotopia.

Eh?

"Scalie" is an insensitive term and highly offensive toward dinosaurs. I suggest you refrain from using it.

[Exemplis]

Meh. I don't see any problem considering the people that actually do this will do it anyway.

[The Parkus Empire]

Meh. I don't see any problem considering the people that actually do this will do it anyway.

So anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k

[Aeirles]

Eww, who would think of screwing a cute defenseless pet??

I mean sure, one may be looking for horse like qualities, but thats no reason for bestiality to be practiced.. Its kinda sick, what if you get impregnated with some ape's semen and have a mutant baby and it somehow manages to live!

[The Truth and Light]

Meh. I don't see any problem considering the people that actually do this will do it anyway.

So anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k

Oh, Parkus, you and your songs!

[Innsmothe]

s'legal in Danmark.

[Norstal]

Anyway, please give your own views, with an in depth explanation, not a two word reply or such.

Its GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!

I think bestiality is not ok, by the virtue of the fact that said animal have not given consent to have sex with you. Unless of course, if a dog tries to hump your leg or something. Even then, they still haven't given a consent that you understand.

[Esternial]

Anyway, please give your own views, with an in depth explanation, not a two word reply or such.

Being raised a Christian: Hell no!

Having defected to Atheism: Whatever rows your boat. If that happens to be a dog, fine by me!

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Eww, who would think of screwing a cute defenseless pet??

I mean sure, one may be looking for horse like qualities, but thats no reason for bestiality to be practiced.. Its kinda sick, what if you get impregnated with some ape's semen and have a mutant baby :o and it somehow manages to live!

...

@Above: Clearly doesn't understand freedom, or genetics.

[Unhealthy2]

It's definitely not my cup of tea, but I'm against it for different reasons. It's impossible for an animal to consent to sex, and I think its unfair to subject them to it. We obviously don't take the animal's wishes into account when we slaughter them, but that is a different matter since we use them for a more legitimate purpose (food). In that case, food outweighs the need for consent. In the case of bestiality, being able to have sex with an animal is not important enough to be able to do without consent.

But animals have sex with other animals, do they not?

The truth is that I think most people find it disgusting on an "Eww, icky!" level, and so they desperately cast around to find SOME excuse to make it illegal, so they go the "Well, by this extreme legal technicality that we scoured for with a fine-toothed comb, non-human animals can't technically give legally binding consent so therefore this is illegal. Yeah, that works. Let's pretend that's enough of a veneer of reason to rationalize our opinion." route.

[Dinosaurana]

Eh?

"Scalie" is an insensitive term and highly offensive toward dinosaurs. I suggest you refrain from using it.

Um, are you at all familiar with scalies.

[Innsmothe]

"Scalie" is an insensitive term and highly offensive toward dinosaurs. I suggest you refrain from using it.

Um, are you at all familiar with scalies.

Sorry luv, he don't seem the type to know or care.

[Norstal]

It's definitely not my cup of tea, but I'm against it for different reasons. It's impossible for an animal to consent to sex, and I think its unfair to subject them to it. We obviously don't take the animal's wishes into account when we slaughter them, but that is a different matter since we use them for a more legitimate purpose (food). In that case, food outweighs the need for consent. In the case of bestiality, being able to have sex with an animal is not important enough to be able to do without consent.

But animals have sex with other animals, do they not?

The truth is that I think most people find it disgusting on an "Eww, icky!" level, and so they desperately cast around to find SOME excuse to make it illegal, so they go the "Well, by this extreme legal technicality that we scoured for with a fine-toothed comb, non-human animals can't technically give legally binding consent so therefore this is illegal. Yeah, that works. Let's pretend that's enough of a veneer of reason to rationalize our opinion." route.

That is kinda true. If we allow animals to be corralled and butchered, why can't we have sex with them? It is hypocrisy. Treating them as property and then giving it some human value at the same time.

I guess another reason why bestiality is bad is because of the health hazards. But I'm not sure on that one.

[Copenhagen Metropolis]

s'legal in Danmark.

As long as it doesn't hurt the animal in any way
Freedom FTW!
Poor Americans. So proud of the freedom they think they have.

[Coccygia]

s'legal in Danmark.

As long as it doesn't hurt the animal in any way
Freedom FTW!
Poor Americans. So proud of the freedom they think they have.

Yeah, I'm all broke up at about not being able to legally blow a dog.