by Desperate Measures » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:17 pm
by UCUMAY » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:18 pm
by Camicon » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:19 pm
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No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
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by Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:19 pm
Big Jim P wrote:Empathy is, like all human emotions, useful.
by Miklesia » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:19 pm
The Floridian Coast wrote:My chances, as an American, of being killed by an act of Islamic terrorism, or personally knowing someone who is, are very, very small. On the other hand, my chances as an American of having a Christian in power depriving me or others who I care for of their liberty are very, very high. I'm more concerned about radical Christianity than radical Islam, even though the second is much more violent.
by Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:19 pm
Camicon wrote:Empathy is what stops me and everyone else from buying an assualt rifle and going down in hail of bullets. I'd say it's quite important.
by Camicon » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:22 pm
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the artsThe Trews, Under The Sun
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Star spangled madness, united sadness
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No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter
by Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:24 pm
Camicon wrote:For myself, certainly, but think of all the mentally unstable people there are in the world, all the people who are suicidal and choose to end their lives in a private, rather then public, manner. Think of all the people who would wage a never ending war against people they hate, because no in the world has any empathy, and no one would feel bad that people they have no feeling for are being slaughtered underfoot.
We'd have Rwanda on a world-wide, multi-cultural, scale.
by Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:26 pm
Big Jim P wrote:You gain wisdom, young one. *nod*
by Camicon » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:27 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Camicon wrote:For myself, certainly, but think of all the mentally unstable people there are in the world, all the people who are suicidal and choose to end their lives in a private, rather then public, manner. Think of all the people who would wage a never ending war against people they hate, because no in the world has any empathy, and no one would feel bad that people they have no feeling for are being slaughtered underfoot.
We'd have Rwanda on a world-wide, multi-cultural, scale.
The fact that Rwanda acts like that despite the supposed strength of human empathy is an argument against the strength of human empathy.
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the artsThe Trews, Under The Sun
Help me out
Star spangled madness, united sadness
Count me out
No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter
by Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:30 pm
Camicon wrote:No, it's an example of what happens when people don't have empathy for each other. A lack of empathy, among other things, is what caused 800,000 people to die in 100 days. The people that had the power to stop the genocide didn't care, and did nothing to stop it. That displayed a lack of empathy, not of empathy's inability to stop us doing horrible things to each other.
by Uryan » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:32 pm
Miklesia wrote:Those lacking in empathy have no place in society, which depends on people caring about and helping each other. They can expect no help in return.
by Camicon » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:33 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Camicon wrote:No, it's an example of what happens when people don't have empathy for each other. A lack of empathy, among other things, is what caused 800,000 people to die in 100 days. The people that had the power to stop the genocide didn't care, and did nothing to stop it. That displayed a lack of empathy, not of empathy's inability to stop us doing horrible things to each other.
The idea that empathy was not present in them proves that empathy is not a universally held emotion, even amongst regular human beings.
The alternative is what I suggest, that empathy exists in the vast majority of people, it's simply not that influential.
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the artsThe Trews, Under The Sun
Help me out
Star spangled madness, united sadness
Count me out
No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter
by Desperate Measures » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:42 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Camicon wrote:No, it's an example of what happens when people don't have empathy for each other. A lack of empathy, among other things, is what caused 800,000 people to die in 100 days. The people that had the power to stop the genocide didn't care, and did nothing to stop it. That displayed a lack of empathy, not of empathy's inability to stop us doing horrible things to each other.
The idea that empathy was not present in them proves that empathy is not a universally held emotion, even amongst regular human beings.
The alternative is what I suggest, that empathy exists in the vast majority of people, it's simply not that influential.
by Conserative Morality » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:45 pm
Camicon wrote:Then we have a difference of beliefs, not something easily resolved, and something I'd rather avoid.
I'm not sure anyone could ever convince me that empathy is present in everyone, merely ineffective. You either have empathy, or you don't.
Some people choose to ignore it, and ignoring it for long enough will leave you without it, in my opinion.
by Roan Cara » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:53 pm
by Tokos » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:56 pm
by The Truth and Light » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:00 pm
by Volnotova » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:35 pm
Desperate Measures wrote:Just curious as I see that a major difference between people when it comes to their personal philosophy is the level of empathy they possess. But empathy is one of those general words that can send topics off into wild tangents and I expect that. But just to start it off, what does empathy mean to you and how important do you think it is to possess empathy in life?
by Georgism » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:36 pm
Volnotova wrote:Empathy is very important to me,
Unless when it comes to those subhuman degenerate unpersons; which I will butcher alive if I ever get the chance to.
by Tokos » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:37 pm
by Desperate Measures » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:38 pm
Tokos wrote:Empathy does not mean sympathy, given as "To understand all is to forgive all" is not really true. One can empathise with someone and think the worse of them for it.
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