Apologies and Forgiveness

by **Alexlantis** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:03 pm

"Sorry" has really lost it's meaning these days. Even if they do mean it, sometimes it's hard to forgive them.

To err is human, to forgive is divine.

by **The New West Republic** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:03 pm

No, apologies are for the weak and semi-homosexual. Therefore, not for me.

by **Hathradic States** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:05 pm

I only believe in apologizing if I truly regret what I have done. If I haven't, I will not apologize, because then I would be lying, which I cannot tolerate.

I will, however, forgive almost anybody. However, if somebody will not forgive other people, I will not forgive them.

by **Hetalia Switzerland** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:06 pm

"We Don't Forgive, We Don't Forget."

by **The New West Republic** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:08 pm

Hetalia Switzerland wrote:"We Don't Forgive, We Don't Forget."

Coming from Switzerland that sounds like a joke...

by **United Dependencies** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:08 pm

The New West Republic wrote:No, apologies are for the weak and semi-homosexual. Therefore, not for me.

And for the arrogant, narcissitic, those with out sympathy or empathy, and complete jerks.

by **The New West Republic** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:09 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
The New West Republic wrote:No, apologies are for the weak and semi-homosexual. Therefore, not for me.

And for the arrogant, narcissitic, those with out sympathy or empathy, and complete jerks.

Nice edit.

by **Hathradic States** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:10 pm

Hetalia Switzerland wrote:"We Don't Forgive, We Don't Forget."

Sounds like my ex...

by **Zilam** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:15 pm

I'm always forgiving.

by **Worvland** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:01 pm

I have such a bad memory that the question almost doesn't apply

But when someone does do something to offend me and then apologizes I usually forgive them. Unless they continue to do it, then I shun them, like the little Amish girl they are. However if someone commits a crime forgiveness is irrelevant, justice is to be done whether the person is sorry or not.

by **Barringtonia** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:31 pm

The worst is 'sorry I'm late...', it's always bullshit, they're not sorry at all.

by **Tokos** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:31 pm

Barringtonia wrote:The worst is 'sorry I'm late...', it's always bullshit, they're not sorry at all.

How do you know?

by **Barringtonia** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:37 pm

Tokos wrote:
Barringtonia wrote:The worst is 'sorry I'm late...', it's always bullshit, they're not sorry at all.

How do you know?

I read minds.

Too often saying 'I'm sorry' is more about alleviating your own sense of guilt rather than a genuine desire to provide the other person with some token in return for whatever you did.

by **Katganistan** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:41 pm

Apologies, meh. If it's a small wrong, like eating the last jelly doughnut and not knowing that someone didn't get any cos you took two, eh. I'm sorry is fine.

If it's a larger wrong, then I'm sorry doesn't cut it unless you make good. "I'm sorry -- I borrowed your cashmere sweater and dropped a cigarette ash on it -- and burned a hole near where your left nipple will be when you put it on! Where'd you get it -- I want to replace it for you."

Some wrongs there are no way to make good. Don't tell me you're sorry you killed my father because you were driving drunk. I bet you are -- sorry you got caught. I won't be sorry about punching you until you stop moving or they drag me off you bodily.

by **Qatarab** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:45 pm

I believe forgiving someone is much better than being angry at them as it shows your mental strength in such situations. It proves your in control of your emotions. Of course if it happens a second time you might let it pass but a third deserves no forgiveness,especially for the same reason.

by **Caninope** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:49 pm

I apologize a lot, since I tend to mess up a lot.

I also forgive easily- it just rolls off my back.

by **Greed and Death** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:23 pm

My view on Xtian forgiveness is they do not mean for you top be a freaking idiot. By being an idiot I mean accepting the apology and leaving yourself open for the same action again. I think the purpose of forgiveness is to get being angery and hurt out of your system, not so much to produce a promise to treat the person before

by **Forum Seven** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:25 pm

I read a book on negotiation.

It had a stint on apologies etc.

If someone apologizes a lot, it makes them weaker and inferior to you subconsciously, giving you the upper hand in that particular conversation. It also sets the scene for them to make concessions.

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Me as far as apologies go? Depends. It's situationally based for me.

I'm not good at forgiving. Or apologizing. Evens out I guess.

by **Itinerate Tree Dweller** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:41 pm

I go by the three strikes rule, after all you only have two cheeks to turn.

by **Sith Korriban** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:56 am

Itinerate Tree Dweller wrote:I go by the three strikes rule, after all you only have two cheeks to turn.

Four cheeks, actually. If you get naked. :lol:

by **GothicLust** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:39 am

I have a relative who constantly brings up how I am going to hell because I have not forgiven him. Of course, he has not admitted he was wrong or apologized. He just wants me not to be mad because it makes him uncomfortable. He said if I do not forgive him then Jesus will not forgive me. I do not believe Jesus forgives people who do not admit wrong/ask for forgiveness, so why should I do more than Jesus?

He is a big proponent of the "I'm sorry you're being a bitch" type of "apology".

If you're apologizing you should realize/admit that you are wrong. If you can't do that then do not attempt to apologize.

by **New Hayesalia** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:51 am

There is another type of apology.

Apologies and Forgiveness

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