It's a Choice.....Oh Really?

by **Helertia** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:12 pm

UCDF wrote:
Helertia wrote:
Suddenly, everything becomes clear.

You are aware that the Bible preaches 'love thy neighbour' and 'hate the sin not the sinner' and general tolerance, right? I'd reccomend reading the New Testament a bit.

It doesn't mean "Love thy neighbor" as in "BE GAY AND RUIN EVERY STRAIGHT PERSON'S LIFE"

And how, pray, does that work?

by **Helertia** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:13 pm

Al-Harakut al-Islami wrote:If you can choose to be straight, then why don't you, and spare yourself the bullying and discrimination?

I tried.

by **UCDF** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:13 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
UCDF wrote:I'm sure there's SOMETHING in there about that.

Something about homosexuals not inheriting the kingdom of heaven, and in the OT they outright say to kill them...

So, if you'd be so kind, please kill me with a .44. As your bible commands.

I'm not meant to kill you! It's one of the 10 Commandments that "Thy shall not kill".

by **Wilgrove** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:13 pm

Norstal wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Heaven: 24/7 massive ego stroke for Yahweh.

No thank you.

A stroke for Yahweh.

After all, there is a good reason why you are required to sit in the right side of God.
Pow-chika-pow-wow.

/thread

by **The Norwegian Blue** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:13 pm

Geniasis wrote:
UCDF wrote:It doesn't mean "Love thy neighbor" as in "BE GAY AND RUIN EVERY STRAIGHT PERSON'S LIFE"

Yeah, I hate it when gay people swindle me out of my money and then tie my girlfriend to the train tracks while stroking their--wait, are we talking about homosexuals or Snidely Whiplash?

Wait, are you suggesting that all homosexuals AREN'T overdressed men with silly mustaches? The popular media has been lying to me again!

by **UCDF** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:14 pm

Helertia wrote:
UCDF wrote:It doesn't mean "Love thy neighbor" as in "BE GAY AND RUIN EVERY STRAIGHT PERSON'S LIFE"

And how, pray, does that work?

How does what work?

by **UCUMAY** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:14 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Norstal wrote:A stroke for Yahweh.

After all, there is a good reason why you are required to sit in the right side of God.
Pow-chika-pow-wow.

/thread

by **Norstal** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:14 pm

Al-Harakut al-Islami wrote:If you can choose to be straight, then why don't you, and spare yourself the bullying and discrimination?

Because you can't choose sexual preference.

by **Ceannairceach** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:14 pm

UCDF wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Something about homosexuals not inheriting the kingdom of heaven, and in the OT they outright say to kill them...

So, if you'd be so kind, please kill me with a .44. As your bible commands.

I'm not meant to kill you! It's one of the 10 Commandments that "Thy shall not kill".

Then why, pray tell, does the OT list how you must kill homosexuals, those who work on the sabbath, etc?

by **Helertia** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:14 pm

UCDF wrote:
Helertia wrote:
And how, pray, does that work?

How does what work?

How on earth do gay people ruin your life?

by **Geniasis** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:14 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
UCDF wrote:To walk around on? Maybe with wagons too?

Why the Hel would I want to pull wagons? Jeez, Heaven just sounds crappy. If y''all need me, I'll be in Valhalla, where we drink, eat, and have never ending warrioring!

Man, I'm going to hate it when the annual Heaven/Valhalla Rugby game happens. I have such a shit team.

"Goddamit, Abraham. Stop reading the Talmud and play some defense!"

"Ah-HEM"

"Oh, sorry God... dammit Thor just scored again!"

by **The Corparation** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:15 pm

I never quite got this debate. Does it matter either way? Their still gay and they're still people, whether or not it's a choice doesn't change anything.

Ceannairceach wrote:
UCDF wrote:I'm sure there's SOMETHING in there about that.

Something about homosexuals not inheriting the kingdom of heaven, and in the OT they outright say to kill them...

So, if you'd be so kind, please kill me with a .44. As your bible commands.

Actually Bible says to use rocks, sorry but it's going to hurt a lot more then a .44.

by **Helertia** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:15 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
UCDF wrote:I'm not meant to kill you! It's one of the 10 Commandments that "Thy shall not kill".

Then why, pray tell, does the OT list how you must kill homosexuals, those who work on the sabbath, etc?

It never says anything about killing homosexuals. It just says they're ritually unclean.

by **Urstania** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:15 pm

UCDF wrote:
Urstania wrote:
what era do you come from honestly!? its like a mind from the 1950's with all of the old preconceptions, have you under possession.

I dont really see any benefit in winding back societies clock back to that age, this is the 21st century, its about dropping all the old preconceptions of last century and projecting yourself as far into the future as possable while being an exemplar of humanity. Sexuality will NOT be an issue in the future. Society will be feminized to ditch the social chauvanism that has conditioned people into these strict gender roles for thousands of years. Women dont all wear dresses any more, women can have short hair, infact women have really come to terms with their inner masculinity however its the male species that is having a hard time coming to terms with their inner femininity and if you continue to repress an issue or aspect of your life it can manifest into a negative direction.... Besides the whole "Live and let live" Philosophy on life I usually find gets you further, God loves tolerance and understanding over Misunderstanding, descrimination and hate

So you've never heard "If you're gay you won't go to heaven?"

So god descriminates and hates his own children? If I told my parents I was gay my parents would show more compassion and love then this homophobic diety you follow so basically mere mortals can show more love and compassion then God can??? sounds like God and your church still needs to learn some lessons in tolerance, understanding and compassion, most humans have already learnt those lessons so when your ready to join the rest of humanity in the 21st century which im sure you will one day. (Usually if a human doesnt click or understand that god is sending them a lesson in tolerance and love the lesson gets more and more intense until it slaps you in the face, a close friend may come out as gay to you, if you dont accept him or show understanding, tolerance and be a friend then I think God will have to teach you the lesson in another way like perhaps..... giving you a gay son when you become a parent so your forced to deal with taht issue youve been repressing and if you still dont get or pass that lesson your child could die before you can resolve the conflict which I cant imagine would feel good)

by **Zeth Rekia** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:15 pm

You mean santa claus?

No, he's a rapist.

by **Ceannairceach** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:15 pm

Helertia wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Then why, pray tell, does the OT list how you must kill homosexuals, those who work on the sabbath, etc?

It never says anything about killing homosexuals. It just says they're ritually unclean.

Really? Some versions are really off then... One said that they must be killed.

by **Wilgrove** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:16 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
UCDF wrote:I'm not meant to kill you! It's one of the 10 Commandments that "Thy shall not kill".

Then why, pray tell, does the OT list how you must kill homosexuals, those who work on the sabbath, etc?

Because apparently when Yahweh was inspiring people to write that part of the Bible...he was umm sexually frustrated....

I'm going to Hell, I know.

by **UCUMAY** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:16 pm

Zeth Rekia wrote:You mean santa claus?

No, he's a rapist.

by **The Norwegian Blue** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:16 pm

UCDF wrote:
Helertia wrote:
And how, pray, does that work?

How does what work?

How do gay people ruin every straight person's life? Do they have, like, a magic life-ruining machine? Or is it just that I'm meant to go, "AHHHH! I just saw a gay person! All the happiness in my life has been sucked away into a black hole of pure fabulousness! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

Because, y'know, I'm afraid I've never said that. Although now that you've put the idea in my head, I may have to sometime, solely for the amusement value.

by **UCUMAY** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:17 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Then why, pray tell, does the OT list how you must kill homosexuals, those who work on the sabbath, etc?

Because apparently when Yahweh was inspiring people to write that part of the Bible...he was umm sexually frustrated....

I'm going to Hell, I know.

*packs bag*

I'm going with

by **Zeth Rekia** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:17 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Helertia wrote:
It never says anything about killing homosexuals. It just says they're ritually unclean.

Really? Some versions are really off then... One said that they must be killed.

It was probably written by Glenn Beck than.

by **UCDF** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:17 pm

Helertia wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Then why, pray tell, does the OT list how you must kill homosexuals, those who work on the sabbath, etc?

It never says anything about killing homosexuals. It just says they're ritually unclean.

Thank you!

by **Puppies Are Cute** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:17 pm

I know that you are either born as a Homo or Hetero (sexual). It doesn't matter who you like and who you date. It only matters that we are all tolerant of each other.

by **Geniasis** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:17 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Then why, pray tell, does the OT list how you must kill homosexuals, those who work on the sabbath, etc?

Because apparently when Yahweh was inspiring people to write that part of the Bible...he was umm sexually frustrated....

I'm going to Hell, I know.

To be fair, when the glory of your visage is enough to obliterate all who stand before you, then it's kinda hard.

Plus, wouldn't it sort of be incest considering he created everyone?

by **Norstal** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:18 pm

Geniasis wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Why the Hel would I want to pull wagons? Jeez, Heaven just sounds crappy. If y''all need me, I'll be in Valhalla, where we drink, eat, and have never ending warrioring!

Man, I'm going to hate it when the annual Heaven/Valhalla Rugby game happens. I have such a shit team.

"Goddamit, Abraham. Stop reading the Talmud and play some defense!"

"Ah-HEM"

"Oh, sorry God... dammit Thor just scored again!"

Hey, at least you guys have a sports team. The guys in Nirvana doesn't do anything except getting high.

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