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Postby Wilgrove » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:54 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
UCDF wrote:... So you could do people more freely?

My sexual deviancy has nothing to do with my bisexuality... But it does make things much easier. 8)

But, no. I just prefer such society over our current one.


It would be cool to have a society that isn't so tied down with money and materialism.

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Postby The Norwegian Blue » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:55 pm

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That's what you get for insisting on wearing your sequined evening gown every year. I keep telling you that the green pleather catsuit goes better with your eyes.

Pride parades are usually in the summer, wouldn't a pleather catsuit be horrible in that heat?


Sometimes, beauty is worth suffering for. And NA really does look pretty impressive in his hooker-heels.
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Postby UCDF » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:55 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
UCDF wrote:... So you could do people more freely?

My sexual deviancy has nothing to do with my bisexuality... But it does make things much easier. 8)

But, no. I just prefer such society over our current one.

You're bisexual? That makes you the only bisexual person I know.
Too cool for you.
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Postby Helertia » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:55 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
Helertia wrote:
Scientific Knowledge has advanced. And it has confirmed the conclusion reached in the 70's - Homosexuality is not a disease, mental disorder or side effect of Spongebob.


Yeah, such "confirmation" is not worth the paper it's printed on.
there is no fundamental difference between it and other sexual instinct defects.


Of course, you know better than hundreds of psycologists and biologists. My mistake.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:56 pm

UCDF wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:My sexual deviancy has nothing to do with my bisexuality... But it does make things much easier. 8)

But, no. I just prefer such society over our current one.

You're bisexual? That makes you the only bisexual person I know.

There are several on NS. Even a Christian one.

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Postby UCDF » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:56 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
UCDF wrote:You're bisexual? That makes you the only bisexual person I know.

There are several on NS. Even a Christian one.

*gasp* Then they're not truly a christian. They won't go to heaven then.
Too cool for you.
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Mike the Progressive wrote:But you can't be serious, OP.

He is serious. And don't call him Shirley.
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Bears Armed wrote:Flying battleships crapping on whatever's underneath?!? Aren't pigeons and seagulls enough already?
:blink:

obviously not, with these newfangled battleships you shall be railgunned if you complain about the crapping.
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Postby UCUMAY » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:57 pm

UCDF wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:My sexual deviancy has nothing to do with my bisexuality... But it does make things much easier. 8)

But, no. I just prefer such society over our current one.

You're bisexual? That makes you the only bisexual person I know.

:eyebrow: I am too.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:57 pm

UCDF wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:There are several on NS. Even a Christian one.

*gasp* Then they're not truly a christian. They won't go to heaven then.

Not in his Christianity. I like his better, anyway. A lot more accepting than yours, apparently.

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Postby UCDF » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:57 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
UCDF wrote:You're bisexual? That makes you the only bisexual person I know.

:eyebrow: I am too.

Then I know two.
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He is serious. And don't call him Shirley.
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Bears Armed wrote:Flying battleships crapping on whatever's underneath?!? Aren't pigeons and seagulls enough already?
:blink:

obviously not, with these newfangled battleships you shall be railgunned if you complain about the crapping.
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Postby Wilgrove » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:57 pm

UCDF wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:There are several on NS. Even a Christian one.

*gasp* Then they're not truly a christian. They won't go to heaven then.


I doubt you can speak for Yahweh, and if I was Yahweh, I'd smite you for daring to think you can speak for me.

I'm Bisexual too.

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Postby UCUMAY » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:58 pm

UCDF wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:There are several on NS. Even a Christian one.

*gasp* Then they're not truly a christian. They won't go to heaven then.

That's what I said according to your book. :P But honestly I'd rather hang with the devil the convo would be more interesting :)
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I may be young, and that's okay. Since age does not always bring wisdom. I may be stubborn to the point of stupidity; but at least I fight for my beliefs. I may be fooled by a lie; but I can then say I trusted. My heart may get broken however, then I can say I truly loved. With all this said I have lived. :D

I'm politically syncretic so stop asking. :)
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Postby Central Slavia » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:58 pm

Helertia wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:
Yeah, such "confirmation" is not worth the paper it's printed on.
there is no fundamental difference between it and other sexual instinct defects.


Of course, you know better than hundreds of psycologists and biologists. My mistake.


I know better than people who have been intimidated into making it not a disease.
Nowhere it was accepted by its own accord - everywhere its acceptance was mandated by places such as the EU.
Another bit of western decadence we don't want to accept as normal
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You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.

Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions

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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:58 pm

Wilgrove wrote:So in the thread about discrimination by a BnB against a homosexual couple, the topic of homosexuality being a choice came up. Rather than hijack the thread, I thought I'd create another thread here dealing with the topic. This has been one of those arguments that the social Conservative and right wing love to tout out from time to time. "Arrgghhh It's a choice, homosexuality is a choice!"

Oh really? Ok, so by that logic, Heterosexuality is also a choice. I mean if you can be choose to be gay, then you can choose to be straight. So, my question to those who believe that homosexuality is a choice is this. Why not make out with a person of the same gender? I mean if it's a choice, then you should have no problem with the simple act of making out with someone of your own gender.

As for the rest of us, what are your thoughts on this whole mythos about homosexuality being a choice?

i think thats what they mean. THEY could choose to be gay--meaning that they have unsatisfied same sex urges that they try to deny.

since they DONT have gay sex, its a choice.
whatever

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Postby UCDF » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:58 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
UCDF wrote:*gasp* Then they're not truly a christian. They won't go to heaven then.


I doubt you can speak for Yahweh, and if I was Yahweh, I'd smite you for daring to think you can speak for me.

I'm Bisexual too.

OK, I think you people are just saying that for attention.
Too cool for you.
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The Imperial Navy wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:But you can't be serious, OP.

He is serious. And don't call him Shirley.
Adauchi wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Flying battleships crapping on whatever's underneath?!? Aren't pigeons and seagulls enough already?
:blink:

obviously not, with these newfangled battleships you shall be railgunned if you complain about the crapping.
:shock:
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:58 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
Helertia wrote:
Of course, you know better than hundreds of psycologists and biologists. My mistake.


I know better than people who have been intimidated into making it not a disease.
Nowhere it was accepted by its own accord - everywhere its acceptance was mandated by places such as the EU.
Another bit of western decadence we don't want to accept as normal

I don't believe the EU has much control over, say, the US.
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Postby Geniasis » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:59 pm

UCDF wrote: :palm:


Hey, if you're into that sort of thing.

Ceannairceach wrote:Current human society, or the one I live in anyway. I would vastly prefer the simpler life of Renaissance Italy, or perhaps as a noble in the Inca Empire far before its fall. Hell, I would bet that the second humanity discovers life in the stars, we'll start a dick-waving contest about how we are the better species and society.


Fresh leeches for everyone!

UCDF wrote:*gasp* Then they're not truly a christian. They won't go to heaven then.


That's God's territory to decide, not yours. You would do well to remember that, my alleged "brother in Christ."
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DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:59 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
UCDF wrote:*gasp* Then they're not truly a christian. They won't go to heaven then.

That's what I said. :P But honestly I'd rather hang with the devil the convo would be more interesting :)

As I've said time and time again, if this god fellow is real, fine. But if he dares to condemn me for my sexuality, then he is not a god worthy of worship.

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Postby UCUMAY » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:59 pm

Central Slavia wrote:
Helertia wrote:
Of course, you know better than hundreds of psycologists and biologists. My mistake.


I know better than people who have been intimidated into making it not a disease.
Nowhere it was accepted by its own accord - everywhere its acceptance was mandated by places such as the EU.
Another bit of western decadence we don't want to accept as normal

Is this satire? I can't tell. :(
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About me
I may be young, and that's okay. Since age does not always bring wisdom. I may be stubborn to the point of stupidity; but at least I fight for my beliefs. I may be fooled by a lie; but I can then say I trusted. My heart may get broken however, then I can say I truly loved. With all this said I have lived. :D

I'm politically syncretic so stop asking. :)
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:59 pm

UCDF wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
I doubt you can speak for Yahweh, and if I was Yahweh, I'd smite you for daring to think you can speak for me.

I'm Bisexual too.

OK, I think you people are just saying that for attention.

:eyebrow: And I think you're trolling for attention.

Baseless arguments are fun!

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Postby The Norwegian Blue » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:00 pm

UCDF wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
I doubt you can speak for Yahweh, and if I was Yahweh, I'd smite you for daring to think you can speak for me.

I'm Bisexual too.

OK, I think you people are just saying that for attention.


What attention? Have you not noticed that the overwhelming majority of people in this thread (and indeed on this forum) don't give a shit what other people's sexuality is?
Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things. - Reichskommissariat ost
...if you poop just to poop, then it is immoral. - Bandarikin
And if abortion was illegal, there wouldn't be male doctors - Green Port
Stop making a potato punch itself in the scrote after first manifesting a fist and a scrote. - RepentNowOrPayLater
And...you aren't aroused by the premise of a snot-hocking giraffe leaping through a third story bay window after a sex toy? What are you...I mean...are you some kind of weirdo or something? - Hammurab

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Postby Wilgrove » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:00 pm

Geniasis wrote:
UCDF wrote: :palm:


Hey, if you're into that sort of thing.

Ceannairceach wrote:Current human society, or the one I live in anyway. I would vastly prefer the simpler life of Renaissance Italy, or perhaps as a noble in the Inca Empire far before its fall. Hell, I would bet that the second humanity discovers life in the stars, we'll start a dick-waving contest about how we are the better species and society.


Fresh leeches for everyone!

UCDF wrote:*gasp* Then they're not truly a christian. They won't go to heaven then.


That's God's territory to decide, not yours. You would do well to remember that, my alleged "brother in Christ."


Why doesn't Yahweh smite anymore? In the Old Testament, he was Smiting left and right, but now....nothing.

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Postby Central Slavia » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:00 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Central Slavia wrote:
I know better than people who have been intimidated into making it not a disease.
Nowhere it was accepted by its own accord - everywhere its acceptance was mandated by places such as the EU.
Another bit of western decadence we don't want to accept as normal

Is this satire? I can't tell. :(

Sadly no, even today i read in slovak newspaper how Lithuania is being hammered by the EU for laws (which have popular support) which forbid public behaviour which propagates homosexuality.
The same it was when Hungarians showed no public support to one of the decadent parades
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You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.

Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions

Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]

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Postby Geniasis » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:00 pm

UCDF wrote:OK, I think you people are just saying that for attention.


And I don't really think you're much of a Christian. We can play this game all day.
Supporter of making [citation needed] the official NSG way to say "source?"

Myrensis wrote:I say turn it into a brothel, that way Muslims and Christians can be offended together.


DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:01 pm

Tokos wrote:There is not necessarily a dichotomy between choice and genetic tendency. After all, if Indians tend to like curry then that does not mean there is something in the Indian genepool wired to like curry, but neither does it mean all those people enjoying their curry chose to like it either.


Actually, it would in that individual person's genes. At least according to separated twin studies.
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Postby UCDF » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:01 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
UCDF wrote:*gasp* Then they're not truly a christian. They won't go to heaven then.

That's what I said according to your book. :P But honestly I'd rather hang with the devil the convo would be more interesting :)

Torture, death, starvation, I think I would rather live in heaven, where the streets are made of gold.
Too cool for you.
I am not a nation. I am a nation's military.
Human-Alien war: VICTORY
Invasion of New Poseidon: VICTORY
I am a GUY
by Old Vester
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The Imperial Navy wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:But you can't be serious, OP.

He is serious. And don't call him Shirley.
Adauchi wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Flying battleships crapping on whatever's underneath?!? Aren't pigeons and seagulls enough already?
:blink:

obviously not, with these newfangled battleships you shall be railgunned if you complain about the crapping.
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