Worst Leaders

[Frenca]

It can't be entirely her fault. Ci'an also had a fault. If Ci'an had a male child, Cixi would have never rosen up the ranks and we would never have had the An Dehai scandal and the starvation of Empress Alute.

Ci'an was harmless. Useless all the same, but harmless- and I don't think we can exactly blame her for her inability to produce a male heir. Cixi was the real leader of China for 47 years, almost all of which were disastrous.

...

You got me there, but she did reform in her last years.

[Neo Prutenia]

10. Napoleon Bonaparte for his outstanding role in instigating World War 0, betraying the greatest Revolution ever, attempted culturcide, politicide and linguicide of all Europe, being the worlds most renown plunderer and looter and serving as the biggest inspiration for no.3 (dis)hnorable mention - merci beaucoup, cher amis
09. Benito Mussolini for his grand support act during World War II. Grazie, Il Duce. Also, thank you Italy for giving birth to another one.
08. Erich Honecker for his role in the GDR and its regime. Lick my ass, I'm in the West now; as our saying goes.
07. Leopold II of Belgium for Congo, just Congo. Sick, egocentric bastard, at least the others had an ideology or were insane, or had any justification at all. You on the other hand are a terrible leader AND terrible human being.
06. Mao Zedong for hindering the development and recovery of China and attempt to kill more Chinese then Japan ever could. Great leap forward indeed.
05. Mobutu Sese Seko for his fabulous fashion sense and political acumen
04. Muammar al-Gaddafi for being the unofficial clown and resident Jester of the UN, and the only person in the world expressing enmity against the Swiss.
03. Saparmurat Atayevich Niyazov for the biggest, sickest and most dastardly personality cult ever.
02. Nicolae Ceauşescu for overall incompetence and uneducated, stupid political decision

and the victor is... dumdumdum...

01. Kim Jong-il for thorough, repeated and pigheaded incompetence in all fields combined with a unhealthy dose of insanity and disdain. Thank you Kim for being such a magnificant examplar of the human species.

(Dis)honorable mentions who didn't qualify for worst leaders:

3. Adolf Hitler - Thank you for making me live in f*cking Rhineland-Palatinate instead of East Prussia, great job dude.
2. Friedrich Wilhelm IV von Preußen - Thank you for squandering the first and best possible outcome of a German Unification, good job.
1. Mikhail Gorbachev - Thank you for making the Dissolution of the Soviet Union possible, excellent job

[St George of England]

Cromwell might need a bit of a mention here, too

Only if you're Irish.

[Tagmatium]

Cromwell might need a bit of a mention here, too

Only if you're Irish.

He is hardly the worst, but certainly not the best.

[Frenca]

10. Napoleon Bonaparte for his outstanding role in instigating World War 0, betraying the greatest Revolution ever, attempted culturcide, politicide and linguicide of all Europe, being the worlds most renown plunderer and looter and serving as the biggest inspiration for no.3 (dis)hnorable mention - merci beaucoup, cher amis
09. Benito Mussolini for his grand support act during World War II. Grazie, Il Duce. Also, thank you Italy for giving birth to another one.
08. Erich Honecker for his role in the GDR and its regime. Lick my ass, I'm in the West now; as our saying goes.
07. Leopold II of Belgium for Congo, just Congo. Sick, egocentric bastard, at least the others had an ideology or were insane, or had any justification at all. You on the other hand are a terrible leader AND terrible human being.
06. Mao Zedong for hindering the development and recovery of China and attempt to kill more Chinese then Japan ever could. Great leap forward indeed.
05. Mobutu Sese Seko for his fabulous fashion sense and political acumen
04. Muammar al-Gaddafi for being the unofficial clown and resident Jester of the UN, and the only person in the world expressing enmity against the Swiss.
03. Saparmurat Atayevich Niyazov for the biggest, sickest and most dastardly personality cult ever.
02. Nicolae Ceauşescu for overall incompetence and uneducated, stupid political decision

and the victor is... dumdumdum...

01. Kim Jong-il for thorough, repeated and pigheaded incompetence in all fields combined with a unhealthy dose of insanity and disdain. Thank you Kim for being such a magnificant examplar of the human species.

(Dis)honorable mentions who didn't qualify for worst leaders:

3. Adolf Hitler - Thank you for making me live in f*cking Rhineland-Palatinate instead of East Prussia, great job dude.
2. Friedrich Wilhelm IV von Preußen - Thank you for squandering the first and best possible outcome of a German Unification, good job.
1. Mikhail Gorbachev - Thank you for making the Dissolution of the Soviet Union possible, excellent job

I don't get it. Why is Hitler better than Mussolini?

[Serrland]

Cromwell might need a bit of a mention here, too

Only if you're Irish.

Or otherwise Catholic

[Neo Prutenia]

I don't get it. Why is Hitler better than Mussolini?

It's just my personal opinion, it holds no objective weight whatsoever. In the same manner, why is Hitler not better then Mussolini? Hitler might have been a terrible man, but hardly a terrible leader, especially when compared to Mussolini, who wasn't able to fulfil any of his political goals.

[Serrland]

I don't get it. Why is Hitler better than Mussolini?

It's just my personal opinion, it holds no objective weight whatsoever. In the same manner, why is Hitler not better then Mussolini? Hitler might have been a terrible man, but hardly a terrible leader, especially when compared to Mussolini, who wasn't able to fulfil any of his political goals.

Hitler wasn't able to maintain any of his goals either, unless you count getting your beloved country bombed into oblivion and several decades of economic troubles.

[Neo Prutenia]

Hitler wasn't able to maintain any of his goals either, unless you count getting your beloved country bombed into oblivion and several decades of economic troubles.

[sarcasm]That wasn't his political goal?[/endsarcasm]

[Khyrta]

Joseph Stalin because he murdered his own people, and because he needs to shave that rat off his face.

Hitler, same reason as above.

Emperor Palpatine......because his over confidence and narrow mindedness led to the downfall of the greatest empire in the history of great empires..........

[Oterro]

I'd just like to point out for those people saying Nero, according to QI, he actually assisted in helping to put out the fires. If that's your only reason for it, then maybe you should think again, you know.

[Chinese Regions]

1. Israel's Leaders
2. Josef Stalin (The Disgrace)
3. Adolf Hitler (The Madman)
4. Pol Pot (The Hypocrite)
5. "King" Jong Il
6. Radovan Karadžić
7. Idi Amin
8. Darth Vader (For Lulz)
9. "God" Kim Il Sung
10. Mikhail Gorbachev

[EnragedMaldivians]

1. Josef Stalin (The Disgrace)
2. Adolf Hitler (The Madman)
3. Pol Pot (The Hypocrite)
4. "King" Jong Il
5. Radovan Karadžić
6. Bill Clinton
7. Idi Amin
8. Darth Vader (For Lulz)
9. "God" Kim Il Sung
10. Mikhail Gorbachev

I can't beleive someone with the user name "chinese region" would not put Mao on that list.

And Bill Clinton next to Idi Amin?

[The Delta Complex]

1. Josef Stalin (The Disgrace)
2. Adolf Hitler (The Madman)
3. Pol Pot (The Hypocrite)
4. "King" Jong Il
5. Radovan Karadžić
6. Bill Clinton
7. Idi Amin
8. Darth Vader (For Lulz)
9. "God" Kim Il Sung
10. Mikhail Gorbachev

What the dick, dude.
Please explain.

[South Asia Minor]

Ranavalona I of Madagascar.

[Angleter]

Ranavalona I of Madagascar.

Rabodoandrianampoinimerina, adopted daughter of Andrianampoinimerina?

[South Asia Minor]

Ranavalona I of Madagascar.

Rabodoandrianampoinimerina, adopted daughter of Andrianampoinimerina?

Precisely.

[Chinese Regions]

1. Josef Stalin (The Disgrace)
2. Adolf Hitler (The Madman)
3. Pol Pot (The Hypocrite)
4. "King" Jong Il
5. Radovan Karadžić
6. Bill Clinton
7. Idi Amin
8. Darth Vader (For Lulz)
9. "God" Kim Il Sung
10. Mikhail Gorbachev

What the dick, dude.
Please explain.

Not all of the worst leaders have to be Dictators, Bill Clinton mostly because of Kosovo

[Laerod]

It's just my personal opinion, it holds no objective weight whatsoever. In the same manner, why is Hitler not better then Mussolini? Hitler might have been a terrible man, but hardly a terrible leader, especially when compared to Mussolini, who wasn't able to fulfil any of his political goals.

Hitler wasn't able to maintain any of his goals either, unless you count getting your beloved country bombed into oblivion and several decades of economic troubles.

Didn't even manage that, if Speer is to be believed. When the war was almost lost, Hitler wanted all German infrastructure dismantled so as to not let it fall in the hands of the Allies and to punish the German people for failing to win the war. Speer disobeyed the orders he was given to that effect. Or so he says.

[Laerod]

What the dick, dude.
Please explain.

Not all of the worst leaders have to be Dictators, Bill Clinton mostly because of Kosovo

How exactly would Kosovo be a legitimate qualifier given things like Bush's invasion of Iraq or, better yet, Saddam's invasions of Kuwait and Iran?

[Serrland]

Hitler wasn't able to maintain any of his goals either, unless you count getting your beloved country bombed into oblivion and several decades of economic troubles.

Didn't even manage that, if Speer is to be believed. When the war was almost lost, Hitler wanted all German infrastructure dismantled so as to not let it fall in the hands of the Allies and to punish the German people for failing to win the war. Speer disobeyed the orders he was given to that effect. Or so he says.

I've read something of the same sort - that Speer was able to convince a lot of the Gauleiters in the Ruhr Valley to "cripple" rather than "incapacitate" their factories and infrastructure. But that could just be, as you seem to be hinting towards, Speer trying to distance himself from Hitler.

Edit: I believe it was in O'Donnell's 1978 book The Bunker

[Angleter]

What the dick, dude.
Please explain.

Not all of the worst leaders have to be Dictators, Bill Clinton mostly because of Kosovo

Please tell me how Kosovo makes Bill Clinton worse than a man who ejected entire ethnic groups, killed/purged thousands of people indiscriminately every now and then, misappropriated assets to his incompetent cronies, and was responsible for the Entebbe incident and then had the temerity to demand a condemnation of Israel for its actions in the incident?

[Kingdom-democracy]

War economy is not a lasting economy.

Unfortunately...

Its not a lasting economy because it's completely unstable as you war with other countrys trade gets restricked and then great depressions start to happen then the country has no money after the war cause they spent so much on the war employing people which was the only thing that helped the economy. On the other hand a warless,self-sustanible economy is completely stable and will last just about forever and this dosent mean you need to take out the military it just means you need to build enough wepons and keep uptodate on current teconogy and your economy will be find for as long as no war is happening

[Neo Prutenia]

Unfortunately...

Its not a lasting economy because it's completely unstable as you war with other countrys trade gets restricked and then great depressions start to happen then the country has no money after the war cause they spent so much on the war employing people which was the only thing that helped the economy. On the other hand a warless,self-sustanible economy is completely stable and will last just about forever and this dosent mean you need to take out the military it just means you need to build enough wepons and keep uptodate on current teconogy and your economy will be find for as long as no war is happening

And what about Military Keynesianism. Despite the criticism, it does have some good points.

[Omensa]

I say it's in this list worst as in cold hearted

1 Joseph Stalin

2 Adolf Hitler

3 Ivan the Terrible

4 Vlad the Impaler