Worst Leaders

[Forlon]

I believe they mean it is better to remove a tyrant than stand by and let them kill innocents.

Uhm, yeah... do you have any proof that Middle Eastern leaders are killing their own people?

You need proof the middle easterners are killing each other...?

Also, George Bush Jr. is not a Jr...him and his dad have different names, if only by one middle name.

This should not be taken to mean I agree/endorse/tolerate George W. Bush, just hate seeing him called a Jr. when he's not.

[Roman Fasces]

You need proof the middle easterners are killing each other...?

I said proof that the leaders kill their own people.

And don't point out the Libyan civil war.

[Astholm]

I suppose Margaret Thatcher could make it into the list, but she's a very Marmite leader (you either liked or hated her), so it's definitely one to add to the list.
But she was a pussycat in comparison to people like Mugabe, Hitler, Pol Pot, Kim II-sung, though - even if she was the Iron Lady (supposedly), at least she didn't commit human rights atrocities etc.

[Forlon]

You need proof the middle easterners are killing each other...?

I said proof that the leaders kill their own people.

And don't point out the Libyan civil war.

Oh I don't plan to point out anything, it seems you misunderstood what the poster was trying to say to you in the first place. I mean c'mon if the regular people are killing each other for arbitrary reasons you can bet the leaders are too, most likely.

Anyway, about the misunderstanding part, the poster was trying to say that comparing Bush to say Hitler is crazy, "Yes... because going to war in the middle east is so much worse than massacring millions of people.", because Bush may have started a false war but wasn't massacring millions of people like Hitler was. If this is wrong may the person who posted it correct me.

[Mediterreania]

Ronald. Fucking. Raygun.

Also, anarchy.

[Buurdland]

Who do you think are the top 10 worst world leaders, past or present, for a real world country? The country may not exist anymore.
1. Adolph Hitler
2. Khmer Rouge (I like elephants!)
3. Kim Jung Il (He gets fresh lobster daily!)
4. Saddam Hussein
5. Vlad Dracula
6. Kaiser Wilhelm
7. Emperor Hirohito
8. Emperor Nero
9. Kim Jung Un (Not a leader yet, but said mean stuff!)
10. Not President O-J! He's great!

*looks over* I'm calling racism. What about Khadfi? Or Papa Doc? Baby Doc? All you have is whites and asians. Plus Kaiser Wilhelm...which one? There were two...

[Delanshar]

0- Me
1- Adolf Hitler
2- Pol Pot
3- Saddam Hussein
4- Elizabeth Bathony
5- Emporer Nero
6- Caligula
7- George III
8- Kim Jong II
9- Kim Jong Un
10-Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

[LoL island]

this is in any order, have at it

Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus or caligula

any of the king henrys

president james madison

because it is on here so much, adolf hitler & joseph stalin

and those are the only ones i remember off the top of my head... i feel ashamed D=

[Mediterreania]

I change my answer.

All of them. Because anarchy.

But in all seriousness:

1. Pol Pot
2. Hitler
3. Stalin
4. Kim Jung Il
5. Papa Doc
6. Charles Taylor
7. Saddam Hussein
8. Rafael Trujillo
9. The President of Turkmenistan
10. The Shah of Iran

[Fedeledland]

[list=1]
[*]Pol Pot
[*]Hitler
[*]Stalin
[*]Kim Jung Il

I agree with you in this one, although I'd put Stalin first and Hitler second

[*]Papa Doc
[*]Charles Taylor
[*]Saddam Hussein
[*]Rafael Trujillo

Umm... why? They brought stability to weak and poor countries.

[*]The President of Turkmenistan

Why? He's not such a bad a leader. Tyrannic, yes. Bad, no.

[*]The Shah of Iran

Which of the many shahs? Besides, no shah was worse than the current Ayatollah dictatorship.

[The REAL Glasers]

All democratic leaders that led their countries to wars for democracy and nation-building: G.W. Bush, G.W. Bush Jr., Obama, Tony Blair, etc.

Um, Obama inherited the war and actually pulled soldiers out, so it's kind of the opposite of what you think.

[Great Nepal]

I change my answer.

All of them. Because anarchy.

But in all seriousness:

1. Pol Pot
2. Hitler
3. Stalin
4. Kim Jung Il
5. Papa Doc
6. Charles Taylor
7. Saddam Hussein
8. Rafael Trujillo
9. The President of Turkmenistan
10. The Shah of Iran

Why is Stalin below Hitler?

[Voerdeland]

6. Kaiser Wilhelm

Why?

And Dracula wasn't that bad as the legend says.

My list:
Pol Pot
Hitler
Robert Mugabe
Haile Selassie I
Mengistu Haile Mariam
Kim Il-Sung
Kim Jong-il
Mohammed Reza Pahlavi

[Voerdeland]

I change my answer.

All of them. Because anarchy.

But in all seriousness:

1. Pol Pot
2. Hitler
3. Stalin
4. Kim Jung Il
5. Papa Doc
6. Charles Taylor
7. Saddam Hussein
8. Rafael Trujillo
9. The President of Turkmenistan
10. The Shah of Iran

Why is Stalin below Hitler?

Maybe because Stalin didn't start the biggest war in human history? Or because under Stalin's rule the USSR became a superpower, and under Hitler's rule Germany was completely destroyed due to war with almost entire civilised world?

[Roman Cilicia]

There are no 'worst leaders'; it's all completely relative. I bet some Mittanite 3000 years ago would have said:

1. Mursili I
2. Hattusili II
3. Neferkare IV
4. Suppiluliuma II

etc.

3000 years in the future they'll be saying,

1. Teburmin Padam
2. Gyurmek
3. Dargao Lokop
4. Belikeq Mallos

And hardly anyone will remember Hitler or Stalin or whatever.

Like in this comic:
http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF2 ... howing.jpg

[Roman Cilicia]

Ronald. Fucking. Raygun.

Also, anarchy.

Yeah that guy was definitely worse than Metaxas or Mao

[Roman Cilicia]

6. Kaiser Wilhelm

Why?


And Dracula wasn't that bad as the legend says.

I think that Robert Mugabe is the worst leader of XX/XXI century, if not the worst leader EVER.

Dracula was good at destroying Turkish armies. Not a villain at all! A nationalist.

[Buurdland]

1) Joesph Stalin
2) Mao Zedong
3) Muhammad
4) Hitler
5) Caligula
6) Papa Doc
7) George Dubbya Bush
8 ) Margret Thatcher
9) Mordred
10) Nancy Pelosi

[Atlantian Empire]

Someone's got to say it, so I will

George
Dubyah
Bush

Just 'cause he can't spell.

It would be true. Look what he did to our economy. His policies are nation killers, most teabaggers don't get that it was Bush who drove the debt so high and killed our dollar.

[Mediterreania]

1. Pol Pot
2. Hitler
3. Stalin
4. Kim Jung Il

I agree with you in this one, although I'd put Stalin first and Hitler second

Stalin had a higher body count, but his acts were far less atrocious.

1. Papa Doc
2. Charles Taylor
3. Saddam Hussein
4. Rafael Trujillo

Umm... why? They brought stability to weak and poor countries.

They also killed their own people.

1. The President of Turkmenistan

Why? He's not such a bad a leader. Tyrannic, yes. Bad, no.

1. The Shah of Iran

Which of the many shahs?[/quote]
The one my family lived under.

[Cabickstan]

Who do you think are the top 10 worst world leaders, past or present, for a real world country? The country may not exist anymore.
1. Adolph Hitler
2. Khmer Rouge (I like elephants!)
3. Kim Jung Il (He gets fresh lobster daily!)
4. Saddam Hussein
5. Vlad Dracula
6. Kaiser Wilhelm
7. Emperor Hirohito
8. Emperor Nero
9. Kim Jung Un (Not a leader yet, but said mean stuff!)
10. Not President O-J! He's great!

No offense, but don't see Kaiser Wilhelm belonging on there.

[The REAL Glasers]

I agree with you in this one, although I'd put Stalin first and Hitler second

Stalin had a higher body count, but his acts were far less atrocious.

Starvation and freezing to death are pretty awful ways to die.

[Hypparchia]

1
4. Kim il-Sung: Obvious.

If we forget about the Juche idea and North Korea's current situation, his people weren't really suffering that much during his rule.

[Rolamec]

All democratic leaders that led their countries to wars for democracy and nation-building: G.W. Bush, G.W. Bush Jr., Obama, Tony Blair, etc.

Um, Obama inherited the war and actually pulled soldiers out, so it's kind of the opposite of what you think.

Like um, Obama sent more troops into Afghanistan and expanded the war to the outskirts of Pakistan. and OMG, I just saw Paul on my computer screeen!!!!!!

[The REAL Glasers]

Um, Obama inherited the war and actually pulled soldiers out, so it's kind of the opposite of what you think.

Like um, Obama sent more troops into Afghanistan and expanded the war to the outskirts of Pakistan. and OMG, I just saw Paul on my computer screeen!!!!!!

Sure, he sent more troops, but he more or less ended our involvement in Iraq. To state that he "led us to war" is simply fallacious. The wars were inherited, and despite whatever troop movement there is, he did not lead the US to war.