Congresswoman Gabby Giffords Shot in Head

[Xsyne]

Isn't this typical?

People that know him claim the guy was a liberal... yet NSG runs a 30+ page thread blaming the teaparty and Beck.

I'm inclined to trust him over people who claimed they knew him years ago. And going by his words, he isn't a liberal.

[Ta suil]

Considering people that actually knew him say he was a radical leftist and he named Animal Farm and the Communist Manifesto as his favorite books? Blaming Beck is the wrong choice. Think a better person to blame would be... the shooter.

He also had Mein Kampf as one of his favourite Books and was apparently railing against the Fed and fiat currency or some shit.

and apperently an ayn rand reader too

[Feral Land]

He also had Mein Kampf as one of his favourite Books and was apparently railing against the Fed and fiat currency or some shit.

and apperently an ayn rand reader too

Well if he had Ayn Rand in his library that makes him a libertarian and not a liberal -- although I often confuse the two

[New Manvir]

and apperently an ayn rand reader too

Well if he had Ayn Rand in his library that makes him a libertarian and not a liberal -- although I often confuse the two

He listed a book called "Siddartha" as a favourite. Clearly he was an extreme militant Buddhist terrorist.

[Xsyne]

and apperently an ayn rand reader too

Well if he had Ayn Rand in his library that makes him a libertarian and not a liberal -- although I often confuse the two

Objectivist. Libertarians don't like being associated with objectivists, and objectivists don't like being associated with libertarians. Each thinks the other makes them look bad. One is right.

[Galloism]

Well if he had Ayn Rand in his library that makes him a libertarian and not a liberal -- although I often confuse the two

He listed a book called "Siddartha" as a favourite. Clearly he was an extreme militant Buddhist terrorist.

A militant Buddhist is hard for me to picture, honestly.

[The Bleeding Roses]

Well if he had Ayn Rand in his library that makes him a libertarian and not a liberal -- although I often confuse the two

He listed a book called "Siddartha" as a favourite. Clearly he was an extreme militant Buddhist terrorist.

or a fan of the Karma Sutra... The main character spent years practicing it in the book.

[Ta suil]

Isn't this typical?

People that know him claim the guy was a liberal... yet NSG runs a 30+ page thread blaming the teaparty and Beck.

the ONE person who's come out and said he was liberal, knew him in HIGH SCHOOL and if he is a Libertarian, that would make him very Socially Liberal but not a lefty, alex jones can often be mistaken for "liberal", especially when he goes on his truther kick

[Xsyne]

He listed a book called "Siddartha" as a favourite. Clearly he was an extreme militant Buddhist terrorist.

A militant Buddhist is hard for me to picture, honestly.

Imagine a man in saffron robes with a shaved head. Now imagine him holding a heavy club and repeatedly hitting another man in saffron robes with a shaved head. That's a militant Buddhist.

[Ta suil]

Well if he had Ayn Rand in his library that makes him a libertarian and not a liberal -- although I often confuse the two

He listed a book called "Siddartha" as a favourite. Clearly he was an extreme militant Buddhist terrorist.

LOL

[Unhealthy2]

A militant Buddhist is hard for me to picture, honestly.

Japan 1940. There you go.

[Galloism]

A militant Buddhist is hard for me to picture, honestly.

Imagine a man in saffron robes with a shaved head. Now imagine him holding a heavy club and repeatedly hitting another man in saffron robes with a shaved head. That's a militant Buddhist.

...

Still having trouble.

Problem is, I think I'm thinking about the potential hilarity of my political candidates in the other thread.

[Feral Land]

Well if he had Ayn Rand in his library that makes him a libertarian and not a liberal -- although I often confuse the two

Objectivist. Libertarians don't like being associated with objectivists, and objectivists don't like being associated with libertarians. Each thinks the other makes them look bad. One is right.

Okay if you say so, frankly I can't tell the difference and I don't think they can either, but I've been wrong before

[Panzerjaeger]

A militant Buddhist is hard for me to picture, honestly.

Japan 1940. There you go.

Most Japanese are Shinto not Buddhist.

[The Bleeding Roses]

Isn't this typical?

People that know him claim the guy was a liberal... yet NSG runs a 30+ page thread blaming the teaparty and Beck.

the ONE person who's come out and said he was liberal, knew him in HIGH SCHOOL and if he is a Libertarian, that would make him very Socially Liberal but not a lefty, alex jones can often be mistaken for "liberal", especially when he goes on his truther kick

You say that as if the guy is in his mid 50s... He is at most 4 years separated from High School. I don't know about you, but I regularly see people I know from high school and it has been longer than that for me.

[Galloism]

A militant Buddhist is hard for me to picture, honestly.

Japan 1940. There you go.

That's Shinto. At least, it was primarily Shinto.

[Unhealthy2]

Okay if you say so, frankly I can't tell the difference and I don't think they can either, but I've been wrong before

Objectivism is libertarianism plus a bunch of philosophy justifying your intellectual superiority over anyone that disagrees with you even slightly.

[Greater American Union]

Objectivist. Libertarians don't like being associated with objectivists, and objectivists don't like being associated with libertarians. Each thinks the other makes them look bad. One is right.

Okay if you say so, frankly I can't tell the difference and I don't think they can either, but I've been wrong before

The difference is religion and charity. Libertarians have a more positive view of religion than objectivists, and don't mind charity as long as it's voluntary.

[The Black Forrest]

Glenn Beck has it tough already. I'm blaming Justin Bieber.

Justin Bieber has it tougher than Glenn Beck. He got hit in the head with a water bottle while on stage.

And he didn't cry.

[Feral Land]

Imagine a man in saffron robes with a shaved head. Now imagine him holding a heavy club and repeatedly hitting another man in saffron robes with a shaved head. That's a militant Buddhist.

...

Still having trouble.

Problem is, I think I'm thinking about the potential hilarity of my political candidates in the other thread.

A militant buddist monk who set himself on fire to protest the Viet Nam war

[Ta suil]

the ONE person who's come out and said he was liberal, knew him in HIGH SCHOOL and if he is a Libertarian, that would make him very Socially Liberal but not a lefty, alex jones can often be mistaken for "liberal", especially when he goes on his truther kick

You say that as if the guy is in his mid 50s... He is at most 4 years separated from High School. I don't know about you, but I regularly see people I know from high school and it has been longer than that for me.

what the fuck ever. watch his vids, if he's a liberal then i'm a nazi

[Unhealthy2]

Most Japanese are Shinto not Buddhist.

The kamikaze were following a militant Zen Buddhist philosophy.

The Japanese Zen establishment—including the Sōtō sect, the major branches of Rinzai, and several renowned teachers— has been criticized for its involvement in Japanese militarism and nationalism during World War II and the preceding period. A notable work on this subject was Zen at War (1998) by Brian Victoria, an American-born Sōtō priest. At the same time, however, one must be aware that this involvement was by no means limited to the Zen school: all orthodox Japanese schools of Buddhism supported the militarist state. What may be most striking, though, as Victoria has argued, is that many Zen masters known for their post-war internationalism and promotion of "world peace" were open nationalists in the inter-war years.[18] And some of them, like Haku'un Yasutani, the founder of the Sanbo Kyodan School, even voiced their anti-semitic and nationalistic opinions after World War II.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Buddhism#Zen_in_Japan

Also, it is possible to be both Shinto and Buddhist at the same time. They aren't incompatible.

[Wikkiwallana]

Has this been blamed on republicans, NRA and/or the tea party yet?

....
(silly question, I know)

For whatever it's worth, I really, REALLY hope the shooter wasn't a member of the Tea Party or the GOP. I really really really do not want to see this kind of step in escalation.

Agreed.

[Greater American Union]

the ONE person who's come out and said he was liberal, knew him in HIGH SCHOOL and if he is a Libertarian, that would make him very Socially Liberal but not a lefty, alex jones can often be mistaken for "liberal", especially when he goes on his truther kick

You say that as if the guy is in his mid 50s... He is at most 4 years separated from High School. I don't know about you, but I regularly see people I know from high school and it has been longer than that for me.

Your average high-school-er has no clue what liberalism actually is. They could have easily confused it with libertarianism or conservatism for that matter.

[Galloism]

Most Japanese are Shinto not Buddhist.

The kamikaze were following a militant Zen Buddhist philosophy.

The Japanese Zen establishment—including the Sōtō sect, the major branches of Rinzai, and several renowned teachers— has been criticized for its involvement in Japanese militarism and nationalism during World War II and the preceding period. A notable work on this subject was Zen at War (1998) by Brian Victoria, an American-born Sōtō priest. At the same time, however, one must be aware that this involvement was by no means limited to the Zen school: all orthodox Japanese schools of Buddhism supported the militarist state. What may be most striking, though, as Victoria has argued, is that many Zen masters known for their post-war internationalism and promotion of "world peace" were open nationalists in the inter-war years.[18] And some of them, like Haku'un Yasutani, the founder of the Sanbo Kyodan School, even voiced their anti-semitic and nationalistic opinions after World War II.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Buddhism#Zen_in_Japan

Also, it is possible to be both Shinto and Buddhist at the same time. They aren't incompatible.

Huh.

Well, I do stand terribly corrected, it seems.