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This is a tragic day I pray for those who die and this democrat who I supported some of her views espically on border control. See this video of the young girls father speaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axKjS92pnqk

You are probably aware that she is alive and stable. Thank God

Free Soviets wrote:

Wikkiwallana wrote:More on how bad it's gotten: http://www.csgv.org/issues-and-campaigns/guns-democracy-and-freedom/insurrection-timeline

also worth remembering are things like this report from politico last spring:

Senate Sergeant at Arms Terrance Gainer says threats against members of Congress were up 300 percent in the first few months of 2010.

Cue the right-wingers who'll say the death threats against the Shrubinator are just as bad as all the anti-Democrat death threats combined.

Gauthier wrote:Cue the right-wingers who'll say the death threats against the Shrubinator are just as bad as all the anti-Democrat death threats combined.

As a Fascist, the super-increase in death threats simply means to me that, in the words of Mussolini, "People are tired of liberty."

They're sick of the bullshit that is the United States Government. And, many of them with lower intelligence (as that's been dropping with the rise of Humanist psychology) seek to simply take up arms.

The Grand World Order wrote:

Gauthier wrote:Cue the right-wingers who'll say the death threats against the Shrubinator are just as bad as all the anti-Democrat death threats combined.

As a Fascist, the super-increase in death threats simply means to me that, in the words of Mussolini, "People are tired of liberty."

They're sick of the bullshit that is the United States Government. And, many of them with lower intelligence (as that's been dropping with the rise of Humanist psychology) seek to simply take up arms.

wait wait wait, GWO you're actually a facist??? gwah?

more importantly, there's a reason that no modern first-world nation is facist. It's not a particularly effective system and it generally ends up with an idiot/maniac/nutjob in charge of an entire country for long enough to run it into the ground (until, of course, someone kills him with piano wire).

The Grand World Order wrote:

Gauthier wrote:Cue the right-wingers who'll say the death threats against the Shrubinator are just as bad as all the anti-Democrat death threats combined.

As a Fascist, the super-increase in death threats simply means to me that, in the words of Mussolini, "People are tired of liberty."

They're sick of the bullshit that is the United States Government. And, many of them with lower intelligence (as that's been dropping with the rise of Humanist psychology) seek to simply take up arms.

Lower intelligence?

Are you compensating for the Flynn effect?

Grave_n_idle wrote:Are you compensating for the Flynn effect?

Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.

New Kereptica wrote:

Grave_n_idle wrote:Are you compensating for the Flynn effect?

Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.

That is so going to end up in Panzerjaeger's sig.

Grave_n_idle wrote:

Andaluciae wrote:
That's actually probably true...

We could also come to the conclusion that Switzerland is a tiny fraction of the size of the US.

Which shouldn't really affect the 'rate', if it's measured on a per capita basis.

A sort of economy of scale of gun violence, perhaps.

Regardless, Switzerland has considerably stronger national identification, a sense of social harmony (and social responsibility associated therewith), and the genuine omnipresence.

Grave_n_idle wrote:

The Plutonian Empire wrote:Anyone else see this guy actually freaking smiling in his mugshot photo?

What would that be an indicator of, generally?

Being proud of what he did?

Maybe he feels like he's a hero, for taking down the evil oppressor state, or something?

Didn't know that nine year old was that tough.

Farnhamia wrote:

New Kereptica wrote:
Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.

That is so going to end up in Panzerjaeger's sig.

Yes, yes it is.

Grave_n_idle wrote:

The Grand World Order wrote:
As a Fascist, the super-increase in death threats simply means to me that, in the words of Mussolini, "People are tired of liberty."

They're sick of the bullshit that is the United States Government. And, many of them with lower intelligence (as that's been dropping with the rise of Humanist psychology) seek to simply take up arms.

Lower intelligence?

Are you compensating for the Flynn effect?

What is the Flynn effect?

Katganistan wrote:My God. I hope she recovers.

What are the odds of somone recovering from a bullet wound to the head?

Jagalonia wrote:

Katganistan wrote:My God. I hope she recovers.

What are the odds of somone recovering from a bullet wound to the head?

100% recovery? Let's say flipping burgers in the far futur appears to be a reasonable expectation

Mongolian Khanate wrote:

Jagalonia wrote:
What are the odds of somone recovering from a bullet wound to the head?

100% recovery? Let's say flipping burgers in the far futur appears to be a reasonable expectation

That wasn't the odds, that was what happened....lol.

Jagalonia wrote:

Katganistan wrote:My God. I hope she recovers.

What are the odds of somone recovering from a bullet wound to the head?

Pretty good, apparently.

In other news,

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/01/1 ... rance.html

the guy was denied bail, anyone surprised?

Paul Krugman has written an Op-Ed in the New York Times that essentially echoes what we've been saying; even if the comments of the Tea Party did not directly cause Jared Loughner to shoot Congresswoman Giffords, the climate of hate they have created has made this possible.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opini ... .html?_r=1

This should be a surprise to absolutely nobody. (Note: you may need to register with the NYTimes to read the article. It's not really imperative that you read it, just know that people in RL echo our sentiments).

EDIT: Interesting quote from former Bush speechwriter, "Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we’re discovering we work for Fox.”

EDIT2: Also an open letter to WFTL-AM (850) radio host Joyce Kaufman, whose incendiary political rhetoric included a Tea Party rally remark that "If ballots don't work, bullets will" (seriously, there's nothing ambiguous about this one): http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/ ... ooting.php

Geniasis wrote:Paul Krugman has written an Op-Ed in the New York Times that essentially echoes what we've been saying; even if the comments of the Tea Party did not directly cause Jared Loughner to shoot Congresswoman Giffords, the climate of hate they have created has made this possible.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opini ... .html?_r=1

This should be a surprise to absolutely nobody. (Note: you may need to register with the NYTimes to read the article. It's not really imperative that you read it, just know that people in RL echo our sentiments).

EDIT: Interesting quote from former Bush speechwriter, "Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we’re discovering we work for Fox.”

EDIT2: Also an open letter to WFTL-AM (850) radio host Joyce Kaufman, whose incendiary political rhetoric included a Tea Party rally remark that "If ballots don't work, bullets will" (seriously, there's nothing ambiguous about this one): http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/ ... ooting.php

Indeed it will just be the beginning. The Right Wing Noise Machine will never accept accountability for inciting the likes of Loughner, and they will continue with the same insuurectionist talk as long as Democrats hold any major political office.

The Black Plains wrote:Here's where you have to stop waffling around and come out and say what you're thinking. Do you think that Palin should be arrested for inciting murder: Yes or No?

That's simple... No. On the other hand, do I think her choice of symbolism combined with her rhetoric is a problem? Yes.

Juristonia wrote:It's sad to see that it takes a nut and a tragedy for people to finally start realising that the rhetoric has been going too far.

No, what's sad is that far too many people don't realize that the rhetoric has gone too far.

Caninope wrote:

South Norwega wrote:I'm sorry, but what?

Removing a significant proportion of guns from Australia's gun market seems to have done nothing at all to increase the black market in guns.

Unfortunately for you also, Switzerland has about half as many guns per capita as the US. Ha.

Still not accurate. Only half of households, at most have guns, with most of those probably belonging to only one or two people in the households.

What? You have proved nothing in my post at all incorrect. The US has more guns than Switzerland, in real terms and per capita. Mercator Terra is wrong.

Mercator Terra wrote:They have more guns then us and have extremely less murder rates. Either that they somehow have more humanity then us or what I said is true.

Wikkiwallana wrote:

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Lower intelligence?

Are you compensating for the Flynn effect?

What is the Flynn effect?

It refers to the way IQ is measured. IQ scoring is standardised to an average of 100. Taking earlier iterations of IQ tests always yields average scores above 100, thus, standardisation is actually slowly creeping up in value.

The ramifications of this are twofold - one: it means 'lower scores' over a period of time are not only not evidence of decreasing intelligence, they are actually to be expected... and two: average intelligence is actually increasing over time, if the average point keeps moving higher.

People who talk about the decrease in intelligence over the last century tend to ignore the Flynn effect.

Wikkiwallana wrote:

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Lower intelligence?

Are you compensating for the Flynn effect?

What is the Flynn effect?

IQ is going up. Everywhere.

Xsyne wrote:

Wikkiwallana wrote:What is the Flynn effect?

IQ is going up. Everywhere.

Except the USA.

Jagalonia wrote:

Xsyne wrote:IQ is going up. Everywhere.

Except the USA.

Who needs smarts when you've got this many guns?