Congresswoman Gabby Giffords Shot in Head

[Caninope]

I would like a detailed summary on how we can change the gun control laws in the country, short of shredding the second amendment.

Shred the second amendment. The first could use some re-writing too.

How about no? I rather like my rights.

[Caninope]

Those were misdemeanors. A felon can't have a gun (except those convicted of unfair trading practices). Are you really saying that we should ban anyone who has wrecked and hit other property (a misdemeanor), anyone who has had drunk and disorderly conduct, shoplifted, trespassed, etc. from being able to have a gun? Lax gun laws had nothing to do with this. His crimes were misdemeanors, and it is hard for someone to give someone a mental health check when you have no legal standing to, besides the fact that it probably wasn't very obvious.

Absoultely. Why should we let drunkards, trespassers, and property wreckers be allowed to purchase weaponry? And legal standing has nothing to do with whether a background check includes one's mental health.

Because those are very minor crimes, and none of those imply intent? Accidentally being on your side of the property line is trespassing, being drunk and disorderly can be something as simple as being drunk and mouthing off to someone, and wrecking property with a car can be as simple as losing control of the car and hitting something.

In fact, hitting a mailbox is a felony. Should someone who hits a mailbox be banned from any weaponry? Furthermore, mental health checks are confidential, under doctor-patient privilege.

[The Bleeding Roses]

Is it possible for an infinite source of currency?

If a member of the treasury creates 5 new currency's then the new currency replaces the previous currency.
If the new currency replaces the previous currency then the previous currency is no longer in use.
A members of the treasury creates 5 new currency's.
Therefore, the previous currency is no longer in use.


If the treasury creates a new currency then the new currency will replace the previous currency.
The treasury creates a new currency.
Therefore, the new currency will replace the previous currency.

If the treasury creates one new currency then why couldn't they create an infinite amount?

Wouldn't be beautiful to see your face on the new coins?

I must have read that a dozen times and I still can't figure out what the fuck he is talking about...

[Caninope]

This is not a serious reason? Six people, including a nine year old girl and a federal judge are dead. A congresswoman is in critical condition. I think this is serious.

A misdemeanor is not a serious reason.

[Shia Majority]

Has she died yet? I want my Wheel of Fortune back, damnit.

[Fartsniffage]

I must have read that a dozen times and I still can't figure out what the fuck he is talking about...

He wants personalised currency.

[Muravyets]

<snip>

No. I'm letting it go. You are talking to yourself after this point, but you're still not winning your points.

EDIT: And nobody is forcing you to keep beating this dead horse, nor to talk to me at all, ever. No one is wasting your time but you.

[Fartsniffage]

This is not a serious reason? Six people, including a nine year old girl and a federal judge are dead. A congresswoman is in critical condition. I think this is serious.

A misdemeanor is not a serious reason.

How about 5 misdemeanors?

[F1-Insanity]

Which implies that you have already made a conclusion about who is likely to have carried out this attack, dispite the tea party movement having zero history of violence.

Zero history of violence? Wow, what fairy tale world do you live in?

Less than SEIU
Less than Black Panthers
Caused less damage than the leftist demonstrations at G7/8/20 meetings etc...

[Buffett and Colbert]

Because those are very minor crimes, and none of those imply intent? Accidentally being on your side of the property line is trespassing, being drunk and disorderly can be something as simple as being drunk and mouthing off to someone, and wrecking property with a car can be as simple as losing control of the car and hitting something.

And murder can be accidentally sticking a knife through someone.

In fact, hitting a mailbox is a felony. Should someone who hits a mailbox be banned from any weaponry?

Why should someone immature and violent enough to smash a mailbox be able to own a gun?

[The Bleeding Roses]

This is not a serious reason? Six people, including a nine year old girl and a federal judge are dead. A congresswoman is in critical condition. I think this is serious.

A misdemeanor is not a serious reason.

Those are felonies...

[Caninope]

A misdemeanor is not a serious reason.

How about 5 misdemeanors?

They can stack to be a felony. But it depends on the misdemeanor.

[Fartsniffage]

How about 5 misdemeanors?

They can stack to be a felony. But it depends on the misdemeanor.

How does that work?

[The Bleeding Roses]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontypool_%28film%29

The action is set in a small radio station located in the basement of a church in Pontypool, Ontario. The morning team consisting of former talk radio "personality" turned announcer Grant Mazzy (Stephen McHattie), his producer Sydney Briar (Lisa Houle) and technician Laurel-Ann Drummond (Georgina Reilly), start taking reports of bloody, unmotivated riots occurring in town from field reporter Ken Loney in his "Sunshine Chopper" helicopter (actually just Loney's Dodge Dart). As the story unfolds, the radio staff, later joined by John Mendez, a local doctor and target of the initial riot explains that the zombie-like behaviour of the rioters comes from a "virus" of sort spread through certain words in the English language (but not French). Holed up in the broadcast booth housed in the basement of the town's abandoned church, Mazzy and his co-workers are restricted in their ability to warn the outside world and to communicate with each other as slaughter rages beyond its walls.

As Loney succumbs to the infection whilst hiding in a grain silo, Laurel-Ann becomes infected and tries to break into the booth. Unable to get to her prey, she eventually vomits copious amounts of fluids and dies. Mazzy, Briar and Mendez then discover that only the English language seems to be infected, so they survive for a while by speaking other languages. Mazzy is able to cure Briar of the disorder by swapping the meanings of certain words, ultimately rendering them meaningless. As they try to broadcast the cure to other people a French Canadian military unit first slaughters all the affected in sight and then broadcasts a countdown from 10 to 1. Briar kisses Mazzy as the countdown hits 1, and the screen goes to black.

A coda follows the end credits in which the Mazzy and Sydney characters appear in a stylized nightclub or café.

I'd congratulate you on writing such a long post, displaying a grasp of some subject ... but then I clicked your link and discovered that you didn't write one word of that.

Oh well. Maybe you'll shape up yet.

Never seen a movie plot in your life? That's rather depressing.



That being said, it's a pretty good movie but the ending seems a bit rushed.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

They can stack to be a felony. But it depends on the misdemeanor.

How does that work?

Like Legos.

[Caninope]

They can stack to be a felony. But it depends on the misdemeanor.

How does that work?

After certain repeat offenses (which would be misdemeanors), the court convicts the person of a felony, normally a Class D (or in some states, an even lower class if it exists).

NOTE: I am not a lawyer, nor am I in law school.

[Fartsniffage]

How does that work?

Like Legos.

You can build guns with lego.

Can you do that with misdemeanors?

[Nobel Hobos]

Shred the second amendment. The first could use some re-writing too.

How about no? I rather like my rights.

OK, no then. Keep your horribly-worded, ambiguous amendment and rely on future courts to interpret it your way. If your rights rely on that, good luck buddy.

But that heads wide of the subject. What say you to licensing, which is a background check done right? I say that the limited resources government applies to checking background (which would never have prevented Loughlin buying a gun, given his non-violent and rather trivial criminal record) would be better applied ONLY to those who apply to own a gun. What say you?

[The Bleeding Roses]

Interesting pattern in this fucktard's writing style.

Makes a statement.
Repeats that statement in a more concise form using virtually the same language.
Makes a conclusion statement that repeats it again.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread591520/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread592730/pg1
http://www.youtube.com/user/classitup10 ... nNx0WThoF0 :15 second mark
http://www.youtube.com/user/classitup10 ... HoaZaLbqB4 entire video
etc...

[Grave_n_idle]

but so far the only thing I've heard of him saying that sounds like it was manufactured entirely inside his own brain is the bit about the government using grammar for mind control.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontypool_%28film%29

The action is set in a small radio station located in the basement of a church in Pontypool, Ontario. The morning team consisting of former talk radio "personality" turned announcer Grant Mazzy (Stephen McHattie), his producer Sydney Briar (Lisa Houle) and technician Laurel-Ann Drummond (Georgina Reilly), start taking reports of bloody, unmotivated riots occurring in town from field reporter Ken Loney in his "Sunshine Chopper" helicopter (actually just Loney's Dodge Dart). As the story unfolds, the radio staff, later joined by John Mendez, a local doctor and target of the initial riot explains that the zombie-like behaviour of the rioters comes from a "virus" of sort spread through certain words in the English language (but not French). Holed up in the broadcast booth housed in the basement of the town's abandoned church, Mazzy and his co-workers are restricted in their ability to warn the outside world and to communicate with each other as slaughter rages beyond its walls.

As Loney succumbs to the infection whilst hiding in a grain silo, Laurel-Ann becomes infected and tries to break into the booth. Unable to get to her prey, she eventually vomits copious amounts of fluids and dies. Mazzy, Briar and Mendez then discover that only the English language seems to be infected, so they survive for a while by speaking other languages. Mazzy is able to cure Briar of the disorder by swapping the meanings of certain words, ultimately rendering them meaningless. As they try to broadcast the cure to other people a French Canadian military unit first slaughters all the affected in sight and then broadcasts a countdown from 10 to 1. Briar kisses Mazzy as the countdown hits 1, and the screen goes to black.

A coda follows the end credits in which the Mazzy and Sydney characters appear in a stylized nightclub or café.

So... nothing is rooted in his own (previously thought to be) 'diseased' brain? That unfortunately rather supports the idea that the violence was programmed by careless (and, to be honest, 'careless' is being charitable. It suggests I'm not holding those responsible... well, 'responsible'....) rhetoric.

[Grave_n_idle]

Interesting pattern in this fucktard's writing style.

Makes a statement.
Repeats that statement in a more concise form using virtually the same language.
Makes a conclusion statement that repeats it again.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread591520/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread592730/pg1
http://www.youtube.com/user/classitup10 ... nNx0WThoF0 :15 second mark
http://www.youtube.com/user/classitup10 ... HoaZaLbqB4 entire video
etc...

It's tautology in place of logic.

Perhaps he is a (Randian) libertarian, after all?

[Free Soviets]

Interesting pattern in this fucktard's writing style.

Makes a statement.
Repeats that statement in a more concise form using virtually the same language.
Makes a conclusion statement that repeats it again.

he took a philosophy course. apparently what he got out of it was the syllogism.

[Frithgard]

I hate to sound ignorant but being new around here, I pretty much am as far as political discussion goes.

This is not an appropriate case to make blanket statements about gun ownership. He is schizophrenic, and the most I can say about any legal alteration is that guns should not be allowed in the hands of those who can not positively demonstrate sanity, but that's just my opinion.

As for the case itself, it freaks me out a bit that I had discussions with Jared Loughner by way of another forum. The things he posted were so strange I thought he was Asian and didn't have full mastery of English, and that perhaps he was kinda strange.

Despite having had one of my childhood friends go off the deep end with schizophrenia which transformed him from a nice kid to a severely disturbed sadist, I didn't recognize this for what it was. Even the dude's closer friends didn't see it.

This was a social failure before it was a political failure, and it bothers me quite a bit despite only barely knowing the guy.

[Grave_n_idle]

Zero history of violence? Wow, what fairy tale world do you live in?

Less than SEIU
Less than Black Panthers
Caused less damage than the leftist demonstrations at G7/8/20 meetings etc...

(<x) =/= (0)

[Nobel Hobos]

I'd congratulate you on writing such a long post, displaying a grasp of some subject ... but then I clicked your link and discovered that you didn't write one word of that.

Oh well. Maybe you'll shape up yet.

Never seen a movie plot in your life? That's rather depressing.

Oh, I have. They've saved me from watching many bad movies I'll tell you. I have an old edition of Leonard Maltin's guide somewhere in the room, and find his descriptions very useful in telling whether I'll like a movie or not. Don't agree with his ratings, though. Movies he gives one or two stars can still be quite good.

I'm saying I read that right through and was favourably impressed that you could analyse a movie without making some brutal inferences from it. Then I found you didn't write any of what you posted.

You know what's sad? It's that you copy-pasted from what you linked to, and assume that readers either (a) clicked the link and saw that your "post" was all quote, or (b) could tell from the style that you didn't write it, because it's better than anything you write. That's what's sad.