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Postby Unicario » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:30 pm

Japan is very very well known for misogyny.

Women are mostly expected to be dowdy housewives.

That's ONE of the reasons I'm glad I've come to America. There are reasons I don't want to be here, but this reason is very powerful.
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Postby GeneralHaNor » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:30 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:except for the fact that you haven't proven the "truth" of your statement

Despite all your "Progress" Misandry is increasingly more and more common.
I like Equality, but it seems the enlightment was botched somewhere, and Now as a man I pay this price.

It doesn't work in practice, which makes me think that equality was never actually the goal.



Yeah, yeah, yeah.

"Contrary to common beliefs, studies have shown that feminists tend to have neutral feelings towards men, and self-identitied feminists tend to have less hostile attitudes towards men than non-feminists. [51] Some feminists argue that the incorrect characterization of feminism as misandrous has been promoted by detractors to discredit the movement, and has contributed to reluctance among supporters of feminism to identify as such. [52] [53]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism


Let's take the Wiki definition that anyone can edit
and use at as "Truth"

That can't possibly backfire.
Reality has a Liberal bias after all
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Postby GeneralHaNor » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:33 pm

Geniasis wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:I don't need a source to state what I think
Are you high?


If you want to pass it off as fact, you do. At least you do if you expect to be taken seriously.


Right, I observe increasing misandry in society, I question the stated goals of feminists in creating an equal society
My personal observations and believes cannot be sourced

Me stating them as such is the closest you'll ever get.

source
Victorious Decepticons wrote:If they said "this is what you enjoy so do this" and handed me a stack of my favorite video games, then it'd be far different. But governments don't work that way. They'd hand me a dishrag...
And I'd hand them an insurgency.
Trotskylvania wrote:Don't kid yourself. The state is a violent, destructive institution of class dictatorship. The fact that the proles have bargained themselves the drippings from their master's plates doesn't legitimize the state.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:35 pm

GeneralHaNor wrote:Let's take the Wiki definition that anyone can edit
and use at as "Truth"


Not "anyone" can edit it, plus most articles have specific sources, like this one. Then there's this: http://news.cnet.com/2100-1038_3-5997332.html
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Postby Geniasis » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:37 pm

GeneralHaNor wrote:Right, I observe increasing misandry in society, I question the stated goals of feminists in creating an equal society
My personal observations and believes cannot be sourced

Me stating them as such is the closest you'll ever get.

source


And because you clearly have an axe to grind against feminism, and women in general (85% fail your test, right?), your "observations" are similarly tainted. Especially since I have observed the opposite. We clearly can't both be right.
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Postby GeneralHaNor » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:43 pm

Geniasis wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:Right, I observe increasing misandry in society, I question the stated goals of feminists in creating an equal society
My personal observations and believes cannot be sourced

Me stating them as such is the closest you'll ever get.

source


And because you clearly have an axe to grind against feminism, and women in general (85% fail your test, right?), your "observations" are similarly tainted. Especially since I have observed the opposite. We clearly can't both be right.


Indeed
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Victorious Decepticons wrote:If they said "this is what you enjoy so do this" and handed me a stack of my favorite video games, then it'd be far different. But governments don't work that way. They'd hand me a dishrag...
And I'd hand them an insurgency.
Trotskylvania wrote:Don't kid yourself. The state is a violent, destructive institution of class dictatorship. The fact that the proles have bargained themselves the drippings from their master's plates doesn't legitimize the state.

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Postby Neo Art » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:44 pm

Why do posts written by Generalhanor always read like a failed attempt at haiku?
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Postby GeneralHaNor » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:45 pm

Neo Art wrote:Why do posts written by Generalhanor always read like a failed attempt at haiku?


Others have noticed this as well
I really can't tell you why
It is a mystery
Victorious Decepticons wrote:If they said "this is what you enjoy so do this" and handed me a stack of my favorite video games, then it'd be far different. But governments don't work that way. They'd hand me a dishrag...
And I'd hand them an insurgency.
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Postby Neo Art » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:46 pm

GeneralHaNor wrote:
Neo Art wrote:Why do posts written by Generalhanor always read like a failed attempt at haiku?


Others have noticed this as well
I really can't tell you why
It is a mystery


Meh. e e cumings did it better
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:46 pm

By the way, here's Wikipedia's source for:

"Contrary to common beliefs, studies have shown that feminists tend to have neutral feelings towards men, and self-identitied feminists tend to have less hostile attitudes towards men than non-feminists. [51]"

Volume one, chapter one: http://books.google.com/books?id=DMOD6b ... &q&f=false
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Postby GeneralHaNor » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:47 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:By the way, here's Wikipedia's source for:

"Contrary to common beliefs, studies have shown that feminists tend to have neutral feelings towards men, and self-identitied feminists tend to have less hostile attitudes towards men than non-feminists. [51]"

Volume one, chapter one: http://books.google.com/books?id=DMOD6b ... &q&f=false


That source is clearly not biased in anyway
You sure showed me
Back to my bridge I go.
Victorious Decepticons wrote:If they said "this is what you enjoy so do this" and handed me a stack of my favorite video games, then it'd be far different. But governments don't work that way. They'd hand me a dishrag...
And I'd hand them an insurgency.
Trotskylvania wrote:Don't kid yourself. The state is a violent, destructive institution of class dictatorship. The fact that the proles have bargained themselves the drippings from their master's plates doesn't legitimize the state.

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Postby Geniasis » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:47 pm

GeneralHaNor wrote:Indeed
if you admit you are incorrect
you may leave with your honor


Thing is, if I admit that I'm actually right, I still get to keep my honor.

It's nice getting to have my cake and eat it too.
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DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:48 pm

Neo Art wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:
Others have noticed this as well
I really can't tell you why
It is a mystery


Meh. e e cumings did it better

Yeah, but he also wasn't stuck in English 101 when he wrote.
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Postby Neo Art » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:48 pm

Geniasis wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:Indeed
if you admit you are incorrect
you may leave with your honor


Thing is, if I admit that I'm actually right, I still get to keep my honor.

It's nice getting to have my cake and eat it too.


Whenever people on the internet start talking about "honor" I flash back to the 7th grade and the fat kid who used to pretend he was a samurai....

It makes it real hard to take folks seriously.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:49 pm

GeneralHaNor wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:By the way, here's Wikipedia's source for:

"Contrary to common beliefs, studies have shown that feminists tend to have neutral feelings towards men, and self-identitied feminists tend to have less hostile attitudes towards men than non-feminists. [51]"

Volume one, chapter one: http://books.google.com/books?id=DMOD6b ... &q&f=false


That source is clearly not biased in anyway
You sure showed me
Back to my bridge I go.

That source contains scientific studies, or didn't you read?
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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:49 pm

Neo Art wrote:Whenever people on the internet start talking about "honor" I flash back to the 7th grade and the fat kid who used to pretend he was a samurai....

It makes it real hard to take folks seriously.

I want to hear this story.
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Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby GeneralHaNor » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:49 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:
That source is clearly not biased in anyway
You sure showed me
Back to my bridge I go.

That source contains scientific studies, or didn't you read?


Psh, Science
Reading is for Elitists
Victorious Decepticons wrote:If they said "this is what you enjoy so do this" and handed me a stack of my favorite video games, then it'd be far different. But governments don't work that way. They'd hand me a dishrag...
And I'd hand them an insurgency.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:51 pm

GeneralHaNor wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:That source contains scientific studies, or didn't you read?


Psh, Science
Reading is for Elitists

It kinda makes it hard to reason with you when you won't accept facts as a worthwhile element of logic.
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Postby Neo Art » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:51 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Neo Art wrote:Whenever people on the internet start talking about "honor" I flash back to the 7th grade and the fat kid who used to pretend he was a samurai....

It makes it real hard to take folks seriously.

I want to hear this story.


Eh, not much to tell, I lost a lot of weight...

.....what?
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Postby Neo Art » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:51 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:
Psh, Science
Reading is for Elitists

It kinda makes it hard to reason with you when you won't accept facts as a worthwhile element of logic.


oh come on, when have facts gotten in anyone's way?

Facts scmacts, you can use FACTS to prove anything even REMOTELY true.
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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:51 pm

Neo Art wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:I want to hear this story.


Eh, not much to tell, I lost a lot of weight...

.....what?

Awww. Thanks for making me feel like an asshole.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Neo Art » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:52 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Eh, not much to tell, I lost a lot of weight...

.....what?

Awww. Thanks for making me feel like an asshole.


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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:53 pm

Neo Art wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:I want to hear this story.


Eh, not much to tell, I lost a lot of weight...

.....what?

Now instead of "The Sword of a Thousand Truths" you're all about "The Sword of Just One Proper Source".
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Postby Geniasis » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:54 pm

GeneralHaNor wrote:Psh, Science
Reading is for Elitists


Right, and you question my honor.

Am I watching some kind of mediocre comedy show or something?
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Myrensis wrote:I say turn it into a brothel, that way Muslims and Christians can be offended together.


DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:54 pm

Neo Art wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It kinda makes it hard to reason with you when you won't accept facts as a worthwhile element of logic.


oh come on, when have facts gotten in anyone's way?

Facts scmacts, you can use FACTS to prove anything even REMOTELY true.

They went out with buckled shoes and smart-ass lawyers.
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