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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:37 pm

Arborlawn wrote:I would be producing the sperm that is required for a woman to become pregnant, it is a mutual cooperation.


I could go for a little singular cooperation.

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Postby Dempublicents1 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:38 pm

GeneralHaNor wrote:Indeed, Revolutionary Thinkers and Leaders are always despised by the mainstream, until there ideas are either adopted or crushed


Anti-feminism is hardly revolutionary. Reactionary, perhaps, but not revolutionary.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:38 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote: :shock: What the hell kind of sperm are YOU producing???


I would be producing the sperm that is required for a woman to become pregnant, it is a mutual cooperation.

Just like how, if you and I were to bake cookies, and I contributed half of the chocolate chips while you contributed the rest of the chips, all the other ingredients, all the tools, the kitchen, and did all the cooking, it would be "a mutual cooperation" to make the cookies.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:38 pm

Arborlawn wrote:Feminism is naturally incompatible with society because it attempts to change the natural instinct of humanity.

Yeah, forced covering of female nipples is totally based on instinct.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:39 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote: :shock: What the hell kind of sperm are YOU producing???


I would be producing the sperm that is required for a woman to become pregnant, it is a mutual cooperation.

Your work is done in 5 minutes, fella. I did that work myself. I do not think that my sweat soaked toiling equal a woman giving birth.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:39 pm

Bottle wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
I would be producing the sperm that is required for a woman to become pregnant, it is a mutual cooperation.

Just like how, if you and I were to bake cookies, and I contributed half of the chocolate chips while you contributed the rest of the chips, all the other ingredients, all the tools, the kitchen, and did all the cooking, it would be "a mutual cooperation" to make the cookies.

:bow: Fucking perfect
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Postby Dempublicents1 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:40 pm

F1-Insanity wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:asking for equality between the sexes is hateful of men.


No, it is stupid. Men and women are not equal.

If we are, please explain how a man can become pregnant.


I don't see how it's relevant, unless you think the ability to possibly one day become pregnant means that you should not treat a woman as an individual?
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Postby Arborlawn » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:40 pm

Bottle wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
I would be producing the sperm that is required for a woman to become pregnant, it is a mutual cooperation.

Just like how, if you and I were to bake cookies, and I contributed half of the chocolate chips while you contributed the rest of the chips, all the other ingredients, all the tools, the kitchen, and did all the cooking, it would be "a mutual cooperation" to make the cookies.


Why would I be making cookies, I would be working for you to have the money to make those cookies
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Postby Ryadn » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:42 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:Actually it would make me a humanist

you see to be under the false impression that feminism is also a pro male agenda

it's not.

Here ladies and gentlemen, the fellow who owns and controls the feminist movement, here to tell us feminists what feminism is really about!


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Postby The Norwegian Blue » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:42 pm

Arborlawn wrote:Feminism is naturally incompatible with society because it attempts to change the natural instinct of humanity.


...yeah, no it isn't.

And even if it were, by that logic, things like "jobs" and "clothes" and "computers" are incompatible with society. I assure you that my natural human instinct is not to get up early in the morning to go to work and wear pants and check my email; I didn't do ANY of those things when I was a baby and I'd never heard of such things. Someone had to teach me about all of them.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:42 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Bottle wrote:Just like how, if you and I were to bake cookies, and I contributed half of the chocolate chips while you contributed the rest of the chips, all the other ingredients, all the tools, the kitchen, and did all the cooking, it would be "a mutual cooperation" to make the cookies.


Why would I be making cookies, I would be working for you to have the money to make those cookies

Wait, don't just CONCEDE that you've got no argument and you're merely trolling. That takes all the fun out of it. :(
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:43 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Bottle wrote:Just like how, if you and I were to bake cookies, and I contributed half of the chocolate chips while you contributed the rest of the chips, all the other ingredients, all the tools, the kitchen, and did all the cooking, it would be "a mutual cooperation" to make the cookies.


Why would I be making cookies, I would be working for you to have the money to make those cookies

Wow. You willfully ignored the point in the most awful way. Impressive.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:44 pm

Dempublicents1 wrote:
F1-Insanity wrote:
No, it is stupid. Men and women are not equal.

If we are, please explain how a man can become pregnant.


I don't see how it's relevant, unless you think the ability to possibly one day become pregnant means that you should not treat a woman as an individual?

I don't see how anybody can even try his argument with a straight face any more. Hurp durp, black people have different skin than white people, therefore we can NEVER be equals! Hurp de durp! Same shit, different century I guess.
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Postby Arborlawn » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:45 pm

Bottle wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
Why would I be making cookies, I would be working for you to have the money to make those cookies

Wait, don't just CONCEDE that you've got no argument and you're merely trolling. That takes all the fun out of it. :(


It is really simple, a man is supposed to work for his wife, family, and God. A woman is supposed to serve her family and God.

It is really simple.
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Postby Arborlawn » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:46 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
Why would I be making cookies, I would be working for you to have the money to make those cookies

Wow. You willfully ignored the point in the most awful way. Impressive.


I'm a man, that is what I do best.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:46 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Bottle wrote:Wait, don't just CONCEDE that you've got no argument and you're merely trolling. That takes all the fun out of it. :(


It is really simple, a man is supposed to work for his wife, family, and God. A woman is supposed to serve her family and God.

It is really simple.

I can tell that you are a very simple man.
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"All Clock Faces Are Wrong." - Gene Ray, Prophet(?) http://www.timecube.com
A simplified maxim on the subject states "An atheist would say, 'I don't believe God exists'; an agnostic would say, 'I don't know whether or not God exists'; and an ignostic would say, 'I don't know what you mean when you say, "God exists" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism

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Postby Ryadn » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:48 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Norwegian Blue wrote:No, because words have meanings. Again, I can define "banana" as "a pile of human excrement," but the rest of the word is going to go right on defining "banana" as "banana." The fact that you don't like the word "feminism" does not change the actual dictionary definition of the word "feminism."

Nice dodge on actually responding to my point, by the way. I'm a feminist. I stated earlier in this thread that I advocate for paternity leave. You have now unambiguously witnessed a self-proclaimed feminist supporting a right that men are not infrequently denied on the basis of their gender. You should probably retract your statement now.


And I'm pretty sure I haven't seen anyone defend male victims of female rape on this board but feminists.


I know I've personally argued against societal acceptance of statutory rape committed by females against males at least half a dozen times on these boards. Clearly a sneaky form of misandry, proposing that molesting a juvenile male is just as bad as molesting a juvenile female.
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Postby Arborlawn » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:48 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
It is really simple, a man is supposed to work for his wife, family, and God. A woman is supposed to serve her family and God.

It is really simple.

I can tell that you are a very simple man.


Well you know, complex things just cause a whole bunch of bickering from everyone, and personally, I am just a God Fearing, Jesus Loving, Italian Man that wants a family and to drink his wine in peace.
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Postby Geniasis » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:49 pm

GeneralHaNor wrote:I'm sure this is supposed to be insulting, by implying that my positions aren't motivated by thought.
Again, YOU DON'T KNOW ME.


Your own statements do most of the implying, actually.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:49 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Bottle wrote:Wait, don't just CONCEDE that you've got no argument and you're merely trolling. That takes all the fun out of it. :(


It is really simple, a man is supposed to work for his wife, family, and God. A woman is supposed to serve her family and God.

It is really simple.

See, and this is why I don't even bother bringing out the claws until at least 5 posts in any more. I want real prey to scratch up, not these dull scratching posts.
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Postby Ryadn » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:50 pm

Arborlawn wrote:Feminism is naturally incompatible with society because it attempts to change the natural instinct of humanity.


The natural instinct to eat, fuck, and not get crunched by a bigger predator? I don't see how feminism changes that at all.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:51 pm

Ryadn wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
And I'm pretty sure I haven't seen anyone defend male victims of female rape on this board but feminists.


I know I've personally argued against societal acceptance of statutory rape committed by females against males at least half a dozen times on these boards. Clearly a sneaky form of misandry, proposing that molesting a juvenile male is just as bad as molesting a juvenile female.

Ditto. When I argue that it's not okay for adult women to molest little boys, it is invariably the anti-feminist men who inform me that it's "every boy's fantasy" to be raped by his teacher, and that men can't be raped by women because men exist in a perpetual state of consent for any heterosexual encounter, and that any woman who thinks otherwise is deluding herself into thinking that men have standards of any sort beyond "is it warm and female."
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Postby Arborlawn » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:53 pm

Bottle wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
It is really simple, a man is supposed to work for his wife, family, and God. A woman is supposed to serve her family and God.

It is really simple.

See, and this is why I don't even bother bringing out the claws until at least 5 posts in any more. I want real prey to scratch up, not these dull scratching posts.


Okay, feminism is wrong and undermines God's commands and assessments of family duties. Feminism raises girls to be ruthless women that have absolutely no morals and usually they fall off the path or live their life in this constant "fight" rather than just settling down and being peaceful.
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Postby GeneralHaNor » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:55 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
GeneralHaNor wrote:Actually it would make me a humanist

you see to be under the false impression that feminism is also a pro male agenda

it's not.


protip: feminism has nothing to do with reducing rights for men, just bringing the rights of women to an equal standard

you know, equal pay, equal job opportunities, universal suffrage, etc.

clearly freedom is an intrusion upon your morals


In theory you might be correct
In practice you are dead wrong

And Freedom is the only thing that guides my morals, to the expense of everything else

you must not be familiar with Reactionary Anarchist stance on pretty much everything under the sun.
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Postby The Norwegian Blue » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:55 pm

Bottle wrote:
Ryadn wrote:
I know I've personally argued against societal acceptance of statutory rape committed by females against males at least half a dozen times on these boards. Clearly a sneaky form of misandry, proposing that molesting a juvenile male is just as bad as molesting a juvenile female.

Ditto. When I argue that it's not okay for adult women to molest little boys, it is invariably the anti-feminist men who inform me that it's "every boy's fantasy" to be raped by his teacher, and that men can't be raped by women because men exist in a perpetual state of consent for any heterosexual encounter, and that any woman who thinks otherwise is deluding herself into thinking that men have standards of any sort beyond "is it warm and female."


Those discussions depress the hell out of me. There's always so few of us saying, "Wow, that 35-year-old woman molested a 12-year-old boy? That is severely not okay," against the swarms of guys saying, "But was she hot? If so, lucky 12-year-old! Hurr hurr hurr!" :(
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