Feminism, misogyny and misandry.

[Geniasis]

I'll admit it, that restored a tiny measure of my faith in humanity. Which should really frighten us all.

If I of all people have managed that, then we are truly fucked.

[The Parkus Empire]

Your link specifically calls it an anti-feminist movement

so why do feminists claim the territory that this movement already covers?

Because guys, like yourself, started it because they didn't like being a part of an ideology that had a girly name. It's anti-feminist in the same way an organization for "straight rights" is against an LGBT rights organization.

[GeneralHaNor]

Your link specifically calls it an anti-feminist movement

so why do feminists claim the territory that this movement already covers?

Because guys, like yourself, started it because they didn't like being a part of an ideology that had a girly name. It's anti-feminist in the same way an organization for "straight rights" is against an LGBT rights organization.

Right, anything started by men, must be evil

[Geniasis]

Right, anything started by men, must be evil

You should probably stop
Every post makes it even clearer
That you don't actually read
What other people say.

[The Parkus Empire]

Right, anything started by men, must be evil

Feminism, as a movement, was started by men and women alike. Masculism, created solely by men, was started to antagonize that movement, and in fact only worries about male victims of bias, contrary to feminism, which worries about victims of both sexes.

[GeneralHaNor]

Right, anything started by men, must be evil

You should probably stop
Every post makes it even clearer
That you don't actually read
What other people say.

Nah I'm just better then you
at reading between the lines
To what people are actually saying

[GeneralHaNor]

Right, anything started by men, must be evil

Feminism, as a movement, was started by men and women alike. Masculism, created solely by men, was started to antagonize that movement, and in fact only worries male victims, contrary to feminism, which worries about victims of both sexes.

I don't actually believe that, whenever Gynocentric custody law is brought up, the feminists in the crowd dismiss it as a non concern and claim it as flawed statistics.

[Geniasis]

Nah I'm just better then you
at reading between the lines
To what people are actually saying

Punctuation is nice.
The word is also "than", not "then.
And reading between the lines,
is a different skill than putting words
in the mouths of others.

You think you practice the former,
yet you are yourself deceived.
You only do the latter.
Seriously though, haiku?

What the fuck.

[The Parkus Empire]

Feminism, as a movement, was started by men and women alike. Masculism, created solely by men, was started to antagonize that movement, and in fact only worries male victims, contrary to feminism, which worries about victims of both sexes.

I don't actually believe that, whenever Gynocentric custody law is brought up, the feminists in the crowd dismiss it as a non concern and claim it as flawed statistics.

Considering multiple studies show that feminists are actually less hostile toward men than non-feminists, I'm gonna have to call bullshit.

[GeneralHaNor]

Nah I'm just better then you
at reading between the lines
To what people are actually saying

Punctuation is nice.
The word is also "than", not "then.
And reading between the lines,
is a different skill than putting words
in the mouths of others.

You think you practice the former,
yet you are yourself deceived.
You only do the latter.
Seriously though, haiku?

What the fuck.

So says you
But you are not me
And perhaps I shouldn't be posting this late

[GeneralHaNor]

I don't actually believe that, whenever Gynocentric custody law is brought up, the feminists in the crowd dismiss it as a non concern and claim it as flawed statistics.

Considering multiple studies show that feminists are actually less hostile toward men than non-feminists, I'm gonna have to call bullshit.

Hostile is a pretty subjective measure,
These "Studies" ?
Who conducted them?

[Geniasis]

So says you
But you are not me
And perhaps I shouldn't be posting this late

When it acts like a duck,
talks like a duck,
and moves like a duck,

Why then should I believe,
when it postures
to call itself a goose?

[GeneralHaNor]

So says you
But you are not me
And perhaps I shouldn't be posting this late

When it acts like a duck,
talks like a duck,
and moves like a duck,

Why then should I believe,
when it postures
to call itself a goose?

Because when you apply "The duck"
to Feminism
they claim they are actually duck-billed platypus's

[The Parkus Empire]

Considering multiple studies show that feminists are actually less hostile toward men than non-feminists, I'm gonna have to call bullshit.

Hostile is a pretty subjective measure,
These "Studies" ?
Who conducted them?

I already linked them to you a while ago; you dismissed them without even reading them.

[GeneralHaNor]

Hostile is a pretty subjective measure,
These "Studies" ?
Who conducted them?

I already linked them to you a while ago; you dismissed them without even reading them.

You linked a book
Of course I'm not gonna read a book,
I'm not made of time.

[Geniasis]

Because when you apply "The duck"
to Feminism
they claim they are actually duck-billed platypus's

Gender studies wasn't enough.
You apparently desire
to extend your sphere of ignorance
to biology as well.

[GeneralHaNor]

Because when you apply "The duck"
to Feminism
they claim they are actually duck-billed platypus's

Gender studies wasn't enough.
You apparently desire
to extend your sphere of ignorance
to biology as well.

Well when you apply "The Duck"
to People
Aren't you doing that yourself?

[Geniasis]

Well when you apply "The Duck"
to People
Aren't you doing that yourself?

I am indeed,
But my claims are borne out
by fact, and by record.

Yours are hollow and empty,
filled with deceptions
and intended misunderstandings.

You observe,
at least you claim to do so.
Yet evidence empirical you reject
for, how could the mistake be yours?

And indeed I laugh,
for your ignorance
and obstinateness
and your arrogance.
They are hollow
And pitiable
and laughable.

The difference is thus
And so I--Alright, fuck this.

[Blouman Empire]

I don't actually believe that, whenever Gynocentric custody law is brought up, the feminists in the crowd dismiss it as a non concern and claim it as flawed statistics.

Considering multiple studies show that feminists are actually less hostile toward men than non-feminists, I'm gonna have to call bullshit.

What studies?

[Blouman Empire]

Parkus since you're still beating the dead horse something has been troubling me which you mentioned and I can't understand. How come only assertive women can be bitches?

[The Parkus Empire]

I already linked them to you a while ago; you dismissed them without even reading them.

You linked a book
Of course I'm not gonna read a book,
I'm not made of time.

Dude, I only asked you to read the first chapter of the first volume. That's where the studies are.

[The Parkus Empire]

Considering multiple studies show that feminists are actually less hostile toward men than non-feminists, I'm gonna have to call bullshit.

What studies?

http://books.google.com/books?id=DMOD6b ... &q&f=false

[The Parkus Empire]

Parkus since you're still beating the dead horse something has been troubling me which you mentioned and I can't understand. How come only assertive women can be bitches?

I'm not sure how you're using the word, but it often applied to passive women, such as prostitutes. It's applied to women and men who frequently complain or nag, and any woman who does not comply with the wishes of a male is often faulted for complaining, and thus a "bitch".

It's also commonly used to refer to women in general, specifically when one is looking for a female willing to have sex with, or at least those desirable to have sex with. It isn't irregularly used as a demeaning slur for women in general. It's used as a slang term for something or someone utterly subordinate to you, probably from the idea of a prostitute utterly subordinate to a pimp. It's used to describe wussies. Last but not least, it's means a female dog.

[Dakini]

Feminism, as a movement, was started by men and women alike. Masculism, created solely by men, was started to antagonize that movement, and in fact only worries male victims, contrary to feminism, which worries about victims of both sexes.

I don't actually believe that, whenever Gynocentric custody law is brought up, the feminists in the crowd dismiss it as a non concern and claim it as flawed statistics.

Considering earlier someone posted how men who actually try to win custody of their children succeed in about the same rate as women...

[Bottle]

I don't actually believe that, whenever Gynocentric custody law is brought up, the feminists in the crowd dismiss it as a non concern and claim it as flawed statistics.

Considering earlier someone posted how men who actually try to win custody of their children succeed in about the same rate as women...

From the Massachusetts Supreme Court’s Gender Bias Study:

We began our investigation of child custody aware of a common perception that there is a bias in favor of women in these decisions. Our research contradicted this perception. Although mothers more frequently get primary physical custody of children following divorce, this practice does not reflect bias but rather the agreement of the parties and the fact that, in most families, mothers have been the primary caretakers of children. Fathers who actively seek custody obtain either primary or joint physical custody over 70% of the time.

...

Although perceptions of bias that discourage fathers from seeking custody are a concern, the outcome of cases in which custody is contested provides a more direct source of information about possible judicial gender bias. We heard testimony from George Kelly, a representative of Concerned Fathers, that in contested custody cases, mothers are awarded physical custody over 90% of the time. Mr. Kelly was unable to provide substantiation, however, and our own investigation revealed a very different picture.

The statewide sample of attorneys who responded to the family law survey had collectively represented fathers seeking custody in over 2,100 cases in the last 5 years. They reported that the fathers obtained primary physical custody in 29% of the cases, and joint physical custody in an additional 65% of the cases. Thus, when fathers actively sought physical custody, mothers obtained primary physical custody in only 7% of cases. The attorneys reported that the fathers had been primary caretakers in 29% of the cases in which they had sought custody.

The preliminary findings of the Middlesex Divorce Research Group relitigation study show a similarly high rate of paternal success, but fewer awards of joint physical custody. In their sample of 700 cases in Middlesex County between 1978 and 1984, fathers had sought custody in 57 cases (8.14% of the sample). In two-thirds of the cases in which fathers sought custody, they received primary physical custody (42% in which fathers were awarded sole legal and sole physical custody, plus 25% in which fathers were awarded joint legal and primary physical custody). Joint physical and joint legal custody was awarded in 3.5% of cases. In 11% of the cases, mothers received primary physical and joint legal custody; in 12%, mothers were awarded sole legal and physical custody; other custodial arrangements were ordered in the remaining cases. Thus, when fathers sought custody, mothers received primary physical custody in fewer than one-quarter of the cases in the Middlesex study. Information about which parent had been the primary caretaker was not available for the Middlesex cases.

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/files/Mass ... _Study.htm