Nah, I know what it means.
However, I also feel that both sides of the religious debate are making outrageous claims that are impossible to prove. We as humans only know so much.
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by Janopistan » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:05 pm
by Occupied Deutschland » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:06 pm
Laerod wrote:I'm skeptical that the title needs an OOC tag.Hydesland wrote:I'm skeptical that skeptical is really the correct spelling of sceptical.
Then let's bring in the torch of enlightenment, even if it will singe a few beards.
by Farnhamia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:07 pm
by Farnhamia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:08 pm
The Southron Nation wrote:skeptical of egalitarianism, socialism, climate change, american superiority, racism, soldier boy, and american hegemony.
by Ifreann » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:12 pm
by Farnhamia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:14 pm
by Laerod » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:16 pm
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Laerod wrote:I'm skeptical that the title needs an OOC tag.
Then let's bring in the torch of enlightenment, even if it will singe a few beards.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/skeptical
Let us then bring the other torch.
by Farnhamia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:17 pm
Bendira wrote:Everything
by Ceannairceach » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:18 pm
by Occupied Deutschland » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:19 pm
Laerod wrote:If you pay close attention to my link, you'll notice that both are mentioned, but the one with the k has the definitions, implying that it is the more common one.
So, thank you for holding my torch.
by The Southron Nation » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:20 pm
by Farnhamia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:21 pm
by South Norwega » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:29 pm
Greater American Union wrote:Did anyone else see the thread title and think, NSG Septic Society?
by South Norwega » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:31 pm
Kalasparata wrote:What are you sceptical about? Climate change? Vacsinations? North Korea? What ever the hell you are sceptic about, post it here!
by The Southron Nation » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:51 pm
by Conserative Morality » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:57 pm
The Southron Nation wrote:scientists the world over thought the earth was flat. turned out untrue.
scientists the world over thought the earth a sphere. turned out untrue. scientists the world over thought the earth oval-ish- bulging out at the equator. turned out untrue.
by Nort Eurasia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:58 pm
by Farnhamia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:05 pm
The Southron Nation wrote:Farnhamia wrote:Why would one be skeptical about climate change or vaccinations? Both are well grounded in science.
good science does not declare consensus. ever.
scientists the world over thought the earth was flat. turned out untrue. scientists the world over thought the earth a sphere. turned out untrue. scientists the world over thought the earth oval-ish- bulging out at the equator. turned out untrue. now it seems, science has determined the earth to alter shape ever so slightly depending on its proximity to the moon and sun but still maintaining a slight bulge near the equator.
consensus, is political. not scientific.
science deals in theory. not fact. gravity, although yet to be disproven, is still referred to as theory.
climate change is a theory to be disputed just as any other theory is to be. with due patience and determination. in the 70s it was global cooling. in the 90s it was global warming. and now it is merely climate change.
we skeptics do not dispute that climate changes. what we dispute is the effect man has on it to begin with, as well as the effect man can possibly hope to accomplish. we are skeptical that the costs of suggested legislation will hinder human progress and development for negligible gain. i.e. the american gov't subsidizing the purchase of hybrid cars to lower an automobiles carbon footprint resulted in no market share growth - hybrids remain below 7% of market share - as well as an impoverishment of millions of people as their tax dollars are stolen by federal bureaucracies.
climate change fanatics misrepresent skeptics. and skeptics all too often do not actually study the science behind climate change, nor do they properly articulate our position against the science.
by Ifreann » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:08 pm
The Southron Nation wrote:science deals in theory. not fact.
gravity, although yet to be disproven, is still referred to as theory.
by Farnhamia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:09 pm
Ifreann wrote:The Southron Nation wrote:science deals in theory. not fact.
Not true. Science does deal in facts.gravity, although yet to be disproven, is still referred to as theory.
Gravitation is a fact, not a theory. It does happen, we observe it every day. The Theory of Gravitation seeks to explain the observed phenomenon that is gravity.
by Wikkiwallana » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:16 pm
Bendira wrote:Everything
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:19 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Ifreann wrote:Not true. Science does deal in facts.
Gravitation is a fact, not a theory. It does happen, we observe it every day. The Theory of Gravitation seeks to explain the observed phenomenon that is gravity.
Which is what "theory" most often means in a scientific context, "explanation." I wonder why that's so hard for people to understand.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Farnhamia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:20 pm
Wikkiwallana wrote:Farnhamia wrote:Which is what "theory" most often means in a scientific context, "explanation." I wonder why that's so hard for people to understand.
Well, there's also the law of gravitation, which gives the mathematical formula to calculate the gravitational attraction between any two objects but offers no reason for why the attraction exists.
So gravity is both a fact and a theory depending on context.
by Bendira » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:21 pm
The Southron Nation wrote:Farnhamia wrote:I know I'm going to regret this but ... how is one skeptical of racism?
i think it exists only so long as the media emphasizes that it exists. every other week it seems that CNN is exposing the torments of racism. most of the guys i work with are black and mexican. guess what few have ever experienced.... the racism that CNN says grips the nation. the only racism ive suffered from is people mistaking me for a mexican or italian instead of a mulatto. but, then again, i have suffered a sort of racism when i was in Manhattan as well as when i lived in Oceanside as well as Eau Claire. I was asked at least once a week by a stranger, upon learning where i was from, if i had been to any lynchings. They were also very curious about the race wars that go on down here.
what race wars? i grew up in the ghetto. i have many memories of chalk body outlines in my neighborhood, crack houses, police chases and shoot outs. i never recall i time however, when the parents of my black best friend blamed my mother (the white parent) for their problems. and they grew up during the 60s.
i think racism exists, in large part, as hype and propaganda. but remember, this is only my singular opinion.
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