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Wireless Electricity

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:21 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8165928.stm

Apparently, very soon, you could be posting in this forum without being constrained by electrical cables. Today a company or research group called Witricity showed mobile phones and televisions charging without any cables at the TED Global conference in Oxford, UK.

Not a new thing though: Tesla and Edison looked into the wireless electricity concept in the 19th century. :roll:

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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby Kyronea » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:23 pm

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8165928.stm

Apparently, very soon, you could be posting in this forum without being constrained by electrical cables. Today a company or research group called Witricity showed mobile phones and televisions charging without any cables at the TED Global conference in Oxford, UK.

Not a new thing though: Tesla and Edison looked into the wireless electricity concept in the 19th century. :roll:

It might not be a new CONCEPT, but this is probably the first time we've successfully created it.

After all, we've plenty of concepts that have yet to become science fact.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:24 pm

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Not a new thing though: Tesla and Edison looked into the wireless electricity concept in the 19th century. :roll:

Tesla hoped to supply the world with free, wireless electricity.
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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby Saint Clair Island » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:24 pm

Kyronea wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8165928.stm

Apparently, very soon, you could be posting in this forum without being constrained by electrical cables. Today a company or research group called Witricity showed mobile phones and televisions charging without any cables at the TED Global conference in Oxford, UK.

Not a new thing though: Tesla and Edison looked into the wireless electricity concept in the 19th century. :roll:

It might not be a new CONCEPT, but this is probably the first time we've successfully created it.

After all, we've plenty of concepts that have yet to become science fact.

Exactly -- I've yet to see a working warp drive out there. Oh science, why have you forsaken me?
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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby Cameroi » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:29 pm

this is nothing new or even gosh wow.

any time you have a strong enough fluctuating magnetic field, and place a coil (or even just a straight piece if the field is strong enough or in the right range of frequencies) of wire. you're going to have an electrical current flowing in that wire, if you give it the rest of a circuit to flow through.

i mean this is real basic basic basics of the behavior of electrical energy.

the only thing mind boggling to me is that there are so many people not more familiar with how the nonpersonal parts of the universe they live in actually works.
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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:30 pm

Kyronea wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8165928.stm

Apparently, very soon, you could be posting in this forum without being constrained by electrical cables. Today a company or research group called Witricity showed mobile phones and televisions charging without any cables at the TED Global conference in Oxford, UK.

Not a new thing though: Tesla and Edison looked into the wireless electricity concept in the 19th century. :roll:

It might not be a new CONCEPT, but this is probably the first time we've successfully created it.

After all, we've plenty of concepts that have yet to become science fact.

Tesla got it to work.
Just they couldn't figure out a way to measure how much a home was using.
So business killed it.
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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby BunnySaurus Bugsii » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:02 pm

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8165928.stm

Apparently, very soon, you could be posting in this forum without being constrained by electrical cables. Today a company or research group called Witricity showed mobile phones and televisions charging without any cables at the TED Global conference in Oxford, UK.

Not a new thing though: Tesla and Edison looked into the wireless electricity concept in the 19th century. :roll:


Not a new thing at all. It's a fucking crystal radio.

If they think I'm going to saturate my physical environment with such powerful radio waves just to avoid having wires, they're as a nutty as a fruitcake. I'll keep the wires for the big stuff, thankyou very much.

EDIT: heh, but if my neighbour installs wireless power, I'll use theirs. :lol:
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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby Dinaverg » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:05 pm

Cameroi wrote:this is nothing new or even gosh wow.

any time you have a strong enough fluctuating magnetic field, and place a coil (or even just a straight piece if the field is strong enough or in the right range of frequencies) of wire. you're going to have an electrical current flowing in that wire, if you give it the rest of a circuit to flow through.

i mean this is real basic basic basics of the behavior of electrical energy.

the only thing mind boggling to me is that there are so many people not more familiar with how the nonpersonal parts of the universe they live in actually works.


wow, you get electromagnetic induction, great. Now make this work, then you can brag how aware and educated you are.
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Postby Rolling squid » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:08 pm

Any votes on how long it will take them to weaponise this?
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:09 pm

Rolling squid wrote:Any votes on how long it will take them to weaponise this?

Not another peace ray.
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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby Rolling squid » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:11 pm

greed and death wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:Any votes on how long it will take them to weaponise this?

Not another peace ray.


I was thinking more along the lines of a long range taser.
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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby The Requiem of Shadow » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:12 pm

Rolling squid wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:Any votes on how long it will take them to weaponise this?

Not another peace ray.


I was thinking more along the lines of a long range taser.


And something that shoots millions of volts of electricity into someone so you can watch the suffer and writhe in pain :twisted:
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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby SaintB » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:14 pm

greed and death wrote:
Kyronea wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8165928.stm

Apparently, very soon, you could be posting in this forum without being constrained by electrical cables. Today a company or research group called Witricity showed mobile phones and televisions charging without any cables at the TED Global conference in Oxford, UK.

Not a new thing though: Tesla and Edison looked into the wireless electricity concept in the 19th century. :roll:

It might not be a new CONCEPT, but this is probably the first time we've successfully created it.

After all, we've plenty of concepts that have yet to become science fact.

Tesla got it to work.
Just they couldn't figure out a way to measure how much a home was using.
So business killed it.

Just like they will this.
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Postby Kyronea » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:15 pm

The Requiem of Shadow wrote:And something that shoots millions of volts of electricity into someone so you can watch the suffer and writhe in pain :twisted:

There are plenty of ways to watch someone suffer and writhe in pain without inflicting permanent injury.

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Postby The Requiem of Shadow » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:17 pm

Kyronea wrote:
The Requiem of Shadow wrote:And something that shoots millions of volts of electricity into someone so you can watch the suffer and writhe in pain :twisted:

There are plenty of ways to watch someone suffer and writhe in pain without inflicting permanent injury.


I know, but permanent injury is more fun :lol:
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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:19 pm

SaintB wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Kyronea wrote:It might not be a new CONCEPT, but this is probably the first time we've successfully created it.

After all, we've plenty of concepts that have yet to become science fact.

Tesla got it to work.
Just they couldn't figure out a way to measure how much a home was using.
So business killed it.

Just like they will this.

something you can't send a bill to someone for isn't good for business.
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Postby SaintB » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:24 pm

greed and death wrote:
SaintB wrote:
greed and death wrote:Tesla got it to work.
Just they couldn't figure out a way to measure how much a home was using.
So business killed it.

Just like they will this.

something you can't send a bill to someone for isn't good for business.

Exactly... so unless we socialize electricity.... wait...

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:25 pm

SaintB wrote:
greed and death wrote:
SaintB wrote:Just like they will this.

something you can't send a bill to someone for isn't good for business.

Exactly... so unless we socialize electricity.... wait...

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Postby Othyl » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:26 pm

There's a group toying with this for an orbital power station. Just make an emitter that puts out some sort of light, preferably long wavelength and between bands of radio and phones, and a super efficient photo voltaic cell on whatever you want powered. Of course those same studies that think mobile phones cause cancer will find cancer in this most likely, but the idea is not hard. That magnetic field idea works too.

This isn't a terribly difficult thing to do, there's just not much point to do it.

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Postby Kyronea » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:30 pm

The Requiem of Shadow wrote:
I know, but permanent injury is more fun :lol:

No, because the person suffering doesn't enjoy that.

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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:36 pm

About time. I also want my 3D-printer NOW! :)

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Postby Triblios » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:44 pm

So implement solar collection satelites to capture solar energy in space, then use this electrical energy to power the coil in this design. Then we'll have public electricity. Also implement this in geo-thermal energy plants, with the coils in urban areas. And design the power lines to also give off this energy so rural areas + suburban areas can get power w/o making new coils.
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Postby Triblios » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:45 pm

Sionis Prioratus wrote:About time. I also want my 3D-printer NOW! :)


u kno that exists right? they just make the print out of starch or foam.(and is uber-expensive )
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Postby Linux and the X » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:07 am

Have fun using your wireless internet if this gets popular. Hell, have fun using wired internet; ethernet cable is unshielded. You won't be able to watch TV either. Satellite and OTA are obvious, but even cable TV wouldn't work (you really think cable companies pay to shield all that cable?) either. Like to call people? Well, I hope you still have an old corded phone. Then again, you'd still have unshielded cable to deal with.

Essentialy, wireless electricity would fuck up most things it would be useful for.
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Of course those same studies that think mobile phones cause cancer will find cancer in this most likely, but the idea is not hard.

GSM phones have an output of up to 2 watts on 900 or 1800 MHz (or 850 and 1900 MHz in some countries). However, wireless electricity would have significantly higher output. According to OST/OET bulletin 65 [download (PDF)], the FCC has in fact recognised that certain combinations of power and frequency are potentially dangerous. Since EM waves lose power over distance, significant power would have to be outputted by the wireless power station-- possibly higher amounts than safe on any frequency.
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Re: Wireless Electricity

Postby Ashmoria » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:50 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8165928.stm

Apparently, very soon, you could be posting in this forum without being constrained by electrical cables. Today a company or research group called Witricity showed mobile phones and televisions charging without any cables at the TED Global conference in Oxford, UK.

Not a new thing though: Tesla and Edison looked into the wireless electricity concept in the 19th century. :roll:

im not using it until it goes through many years of safety testing. that a lot of EM to be floating around at all times.
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