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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:57 pm

Barringtonia wrote:I don't know what Kanye West's nation would be but, rest assured, it would be the best damn nation of all time!

He'll be happy for you though,


He's the voice of a generation, and a fucking genius, his nation would be unlike any other, but the enemy of that nation would be the attention grabbing whore, Taylor Swift.

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Postby Free Soviets » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:00 pm

stephen colbert would be dead to me. he knows what he did.

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Postby Natapoc » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:02 pm

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Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Basically if famous people played NationStates then we'd have a much larger presence. We'd even be on the news.

We've made it onto Indymedia... sure, it was libel, but it should count for something.


Where is the indymedia post?
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Postby Natapoc » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:04 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Laerod wrote:We've made it onto Indymedia... sure, it was libel, but it should count for something.


Where is the indymedia post?


I found it! http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/08/321106.html

I would not call it libel. It is true. The Nazis seem to have thinned out which is nice but for a while they were everywhere.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:10 pm

Natapoc wrote:I found it! http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/08/321106.html

I would not call it libel. It is true. The Nazis seem to have thinned out which is nice but for a while they were everywhere.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean tolerating hate or letting hate groups use his website's services.

Please. It's up to all of us to put racists where they belong.


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Postby South Norwega » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:12 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:I found it! http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/08/321106.html

I would not call it libel. It is true. The Nazis seem to have thinned out which is nice but for a while they were everywhere.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean tolerating hate or letting hate groups use his website's services.

Please. It's up to all of us to put racists where they belong.


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Postby Natapoc » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:13 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:I found it! http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/08/321106.html

I would not call it libel. It is true. The Nazis seem to have thinned out which is nice but for a while they were everywhere.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean tolerating hate or letting hate groups use his website's services.

Please. It's up to all of us to put racists where they belong.


Oh God, I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry.


It is true right? I mean that is the basis of the private property system that one can dictate what others do with their property. Max berry was and is under no legal obligation to allow hate speech on his site.
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Postby Laerod » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:18 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Where is the indymedia post?


I found it! http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/08/321106.html

I would not call it libel. It is true. The Nazis seem to have thinned out which is nice but for a while they were everywhere.

Doesn't look like the article. The one that I remember was full of far more indignation and was from the Australian branch, if I remember correctly.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:18 pm

Natapoc wrote:
It is true right? I mean that is the basis of the private property system that one can dictate what others do with their property. Max berry was and is under no legal obligation to allow hate speech on his site.

That's true for the right of free speech, but not for the ideal of free speech.

In other words, he's within his rights to deny people freedom of speech on his website, but that's not freedom of speech.

Free speech is not 'Free speech when I agree with you', else you might as well be the fascists you're yelling about.
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Postby Natapoc » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:21 pm

Laerod wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
I found it! http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/08/321106.html

I would not call it libel. It is true. The Nazis seem to have thinned out which is nice but for a while they were everywhere.

Doesn't look like the article. The one that I remember was full of far more indignation and was from the Australian branch, if I remember correctly.


Here is one from the Portland one. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/

Was it on the same topic?
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Postby Laerod » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:24 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Laerod wrote:Doesn't look like the article. The one that I remember was full of far more indignation and was from the Australian branch, if I remember correctly.


Here is one from the Portland one. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/

Was it on the same topic?

It was the same topic, only it pretended that Nazis were pretty much a majority or at the very least largely uncontested on the site. The article even cited the title of a parody thread (that reading the OP would have revealed to be such) as evidence of its claims.

Pity that Indymedia has no search function. It's a bit difficult to find without it.

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Postby Natapoc » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:24 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
It is true right? I mean that is the basis of the private property system that one can dictate what others do with their property. Max berry was and is under no legal obligation to allow hate speech on his site.

That's true for the right of free speech, but not for the ideal of free speech.

In other words, he's within his rights to deny people freedom of speech on his website, but that's not freedom of speech.

Free speech is not 'Free speech when I agree with you', else you might as well be the fascists you're yelling about.


Nope, no one is asking to deny Nazis the right to free speech. Only to not provide them with free services to do so. Regardless of what max berry allows on his site the Nazis can still speak.

Besides this forum is very much against free speech. There are all kinds of "speech" that could get you banned.
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Postby Laerod » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:27 pm

Natapoc wrote:Nope, no one is asking to deny Nazis the right to free speech. Only to not provide them with free services to do so.

You sort of are, within the context of this site.
Regardless of what max berry allows on his site the Nazis can still speak.

Besides this forum is very much against free speech. There are all kinds of "speech" that could get you banned.

And yet, it does not apply to any form of ideology, with the possible exceptions nazism where swastikas in flags are concerned. Form of speech is restricted here, content insofar as it remains PG 13 and doesn't advocate illegal activities.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:27 pm

Natapoc wrote:Nope, no one is asking to deny Nazis the right to free speech. Only to not provide them with free services to do so. Regardless of what max berry allows on his site the Nazis can still speak.

Once again, you confuse the right with the ideal. Sure, the right to freedom of speech does not cover private property, but to restrict what one can say on one's own property is against freedom of speech. Banning Nazis from speaking is no more in line with the ideal of freedom of speech than is banning Anarchists and Greenies like yourself from speaking.
Besides this forum is very much against free speech. There are all kinds of "speech" that could get you banned.

Political content is not one of them.
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The Rich Port wrote:Billy Mays would be an adbot nation, advertising Chipotle Away

:meh: :rofl: I miss that guy. Pitchmen was an awesome show, just because of the dialogue between him and Sullivan. *wonders if he could be a Billy Mays impersonator one day*
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Postby UberWeegeeia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:55 pm

NS would be populated by idiotic and irritating celebrity worshippers and the place would go to hell on a hand-grenade within seconds.
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Postby Horsefish » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:35 am

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Conserative Morality wrote:Better question: What if people on here got famous?

More than likely we'd never know.


If i ever become famous I'm just going to slip the word horsefish into an interview. Just to prove it.
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Postby The Imperial Navy » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:37 am

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Postby Vortiaganica » Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:39 am

Julian Assange....

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Tyranny by Majority?

Hmm...the possibilities.
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Georgism wrote:Kim Jong-Il would be the forum troll.

Kim Jong-Il may well be every n00b who wanders into the II forum to post threads of the "The great and glorious dictatorship of $randomname has successfully built and tested 732739857 nucular weapons. Now we shall declare war upon the world!" variety. Indeed, this was a running joke at one point.
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Postby Qatarab » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:18 am

New Korongo wrote:If hitler had a nation it would be banned for putting swastikas on the flag

Then we'd have another Hitler youtube video and this time about being banned from NS.
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Postby Zoerb » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:31 am

Any politician (especially from the US) who played this game would probably complain that the classifications were all wrong. Hence they would play with the Liberal or Conservative style up depending on their stance.
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