Jedi8246 wrote:I already proved god exists, but yall refuse to see the truth.
No, you just haven't made a cogent or convincing argument.
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by Science-Oriented Scots » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:37 pm
Jedi8246 wrote:I already proved god exists, but yall refuse to see the truth.
by Jedi8246 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:38 pm
Norstal wrote:Jedi8246 wrote:You can guarantee black holes may appear at any moment.
Until someone can actually proves God does not exist, which you can't, then excuse yourself.
You do realize agnostic atheists, which I am, aren't anti-theist right? We lack belief in a god. We simply don't know whether or not god exists.
Well I do prefer you believe in design even if not God
Sometimes, the best answer to a question is "I don't know".
Conservative Morality wrote:When you call Bieber feminine, you insult all women.
Agadar wrote:Next thing you know, God turns out to be some weird green space monster with tentacles and a monocle.
Khadgar wrote:Oddly enough, a lot of people who are plotting to harm other people aren't really interested in legal niceties.

by ThoseWhoAreGood » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:39 pm
Dyakovo wrote:Jedi8246 wrote:Until someone can actually proves God does not exist, which you can't, then excuse yourself.
Until you can actually prove that your god exists, which you can't, you can excuse yourself.
Also, you still haven't addressed this:
Can your god create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?
If he can, he isn't omnipotent.
If he can't, he isn't omnipotent.

by Dyakovo » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:39 pm
Jedi8246 wrote:Dyakovo wrote:Until you can actually prove that your god exists, which you can't, you can excuse yourself.
Also, you still haven't addressed this:
Can your god create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?
If he can, he isn't omnipotent.
If he can't, he isn't omnipotent.
I already proved god exists, but yall refuse to see the truth.
Jedi8246 wrote:As to your paradox
God can not do anything or create any situation that would in effect make God not God.
Jedi8246 wrote:This question answers itself.
Jedi8246 wrote:He created you,
Jedi8246 wrote:the rock that he can move but He will not. (Free will)
Omnipotent wrote:having unlimited power

by Science-Oriented Scots » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:40 pm
ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:Dyakovo wrote:Until you can actually prove that your god exists, which you can't, you can excuse yourself.
Also, you still haven't addressed this:
Can your god create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?
If he can, he isn't omnipotent.
If he can't, he isn't omnipotent.
That is like saying that God should be able to make 1+1 = 15. It is against the laws of the universe and logic. There are laws that God cannot break or He ceases to be God.

by Dyakovo » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:41 pm
ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:Dyakovo wrote:Until you can actually prove that your god exists, which you can't, you can excuse yourself.
Also, you still haven't addressed this:
Can your god create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?
If he can, he isn't omnipotent.
If he can't, he isn't omnipotent.
That is like saying that God should be able to make 1+1 = 15. It is against the laws of the universe and logic.
ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:There are laws that God cannot break or He ceases to be God.
ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:Also, where is it written that God is Omnipotent? Who's words? What did it mean when it was written?

by ThoseWhoAreGood » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:41 pm

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by ThoseWhoAreGood » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:49 pm
Science-Oriented Scots wrote:ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:
God is the Father. He is the organizer. He used the laws to create everything.
I mean, what kind of being is God? Does God physically exist somewhere or is God outside of the physical laws?
It seems to me like you're trying to have your cake and eat it, too.
by Jedi8246 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:49 pm
Conservative Morality wrote:When you call Bieber feminine, you insult all women.
Agadar wrote:Next thing you know, God turns out to be some weird green space monster with tentacles and a monocle.
Khadgar wrote:Oddly enough, a lot of people who are plotting to harm other people aren't really interested in legal niceties.

by Science-Oriented Scots » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:54 pm
ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:Science-Oriented Scots wrote:
I mean, what kind of being is God? Does God physically exist somewhere or is God outside of the physical laws?
It seems to me like you're trying to have your cake and eat it, too.
God is a personage of flesh and bone. He exists. He also has WAY more knowledge of the physical laws than we.

by ThoseWhoAreGood » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:56 pm

by Neo Rom » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:58 pm
Jagalonia wrote:Really? Another one of these? Ugh...
The existance of supernatural dieties cannot be proven or disproven.
Except in the case of the flying spaghetti monster. He definately exists.

by Science-Oriented Scots » Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:59 pm
ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:Science-Oriented Scots wrote:
So where is this God and how can you prove He exists?
Your claim that God exists is no more valid than my "claim" Tusken Raiders exist.
Sort of like how we proved that Pluto existed before we could see it. We observed it's influence on other entities we could see.

by ThoseWhoAreGood » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:01 pm
Science-Oriented Scots wrote:ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:
Sort of like how we proved that Pluto existed before we could see it. We observed it's influence on other entities we could see.
Not. At. All. The proof of Pluto's existence was based on extensions of scientific laws and principles that have proven to be true.
Your random attribution of God to stuff does not prove God exists any more than I could prove Tusken Raiders exist. Any time you come up with this "God made this happen" or whatever, I will replace God with Tusken Raiders.

by Science-Oriented Scots » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:02 pm
ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:Science-Oriented Scots wrote:
Not. At. All. The proof of Pluto's existence was based on extensions of scientific laws and principles that have proven to be true.
Your random attribution of God to stuff does not prove God exists any more than I could prove Tusken Raiders exist. Any time you come up with this "God made this happen" or whatever, I will replace God with Tusken Raiders.
You are free to have your opinion. You are also free to be sadly mistaken. The entire universe proves God's existence.

by ThoseWhoAreGood » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:04 pm
Science-Oriented Scots wrote:ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:
You are free to have your opinion. You are also free to be sadly mistaken. The entire universe proves God's existence.
It's not my opinion. You just attribute random stuff to God and say that proves His existence, which it does not. The entire universe proves the Tusken Raiders' existence. Disprove me. Try.

by Science-Oriented Scots » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:06 pm
ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:Science-Oriented Scots wrote:
It's not my opinion. You just attribute random stuff to God and say that proves His existence, which it does not. The entire universe proves the Tusken Raiders' existence. Disprove me. Try.
The creator of the Tusken Raiders... George Lucas, has fully admitted and acknowledges that Tusken Raiders are indeed a figment of his imagination and wholly fiction.

by ZellDincht » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:09 pm

by ThoseWhoAreGood » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:10 pm
Science-Oriented Scots wrote:ThoseWhoAreGood wrote:
The creator of the Tusken Raiders... George Lucas, has fully admitted and acknowledges that Tusken Raiders are indeed a figment of his imagination and wholly fiction.
That's not my point. Replace God with ANYTHING. Seriously. The entire universe proves the existence of the real divinity, robot Dwarf unicorn puppies. Disprove it. Try.
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