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Postby Free Soviets » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:40 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Gagatron wrote:In other words, if you believe nature has a mind, you believe in some sort of God.

Then, how does it adapt so well to the environment, and have so many successful experiments?

wait wait wait

how does nature adapt so well to the environment?

what?
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Postby Luciratus » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:28 pm

Free Soviets wrote:
Gagatron wrote:Then, how does it adapt so well to the environment, and have so many successful experiments?

wait wait wait

how does nature adapt so well to the environment?

what?

It is a fail argument. Nature includes the environment and everything in it.
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Postby Sheniaux » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:47 pm

I am a believer in "God" but i do not however believe in the Christian, Muslim, Scientologist, or what have you's god. I believe there is a divine architect to the universe but because i cannot prove his existence or that he is this god or that or if he even exist i must believe that he likes to be a recluse or that he has a personality issue because he shows himself to multiple cultures as different entities or that there is more than one God. I do use "Holy Books" of all the world's major religions for a moral and spiritual guide to how to run my life and achieve the most happy life possible. I believe there is a afterlife but this afterlife is more on a personal basis. Heaven, Paradise, Nirvana or whatever is what you make it. Hell, in my personal opinion is a realm that the Architect(s) use as punishment to the "Evil" or unholy people of the world, again it is created on the personal level, if you hate cats or what have you then you'll live in a house of only cats for eternity. All of my beliefs are my own, I follow no church or cult that tells me what to believe and no one will. And that is how it should be. So if you try to downplay my beliefs then I'll ignore them because I don't care. Have a nice day to all of the haters. :)
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Postby Luciratus » Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:01 pm

Sheniaux wrote:I am a believer in "God" but i do not however believe in the Christian, Muslim, Scientologist, or what have you's god. I believe there is a divine architect to the universe but because i cannot prove his existence or that he is this god or that or if he even exist i must believe that he likes to be a recluse or that he has a personality issue because he shows himself to multiple cultures as different entities or that there is more than one God. I do use "Holy Books" of all the world's major religions for a moral and spiritual guide to how to run my life and achieve the most happy life possible. I believe there is a afterlife but this afterlife is more on a personal basis. Heaven, Paradise, Nirvana or whatever is what you make it. Hell, in my personal opinion is a realm that the Architect(s) use as punishment to the "Evil" or unholy people of the world, again it is created on the personal level, if you hate cats or what have you then you'll live in a house of only cats for eternity. All of my beliefs are my own, I follow no church or cult that tells me what to believe and no one will. And that is how it should be. So if you try to downplay my beliefs then I'll ignore them because I don't care. Have a nice day to all of the haters. :)

I concur with the architect part, but I am not certain about the after-life parts.
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Postby Khytenna » Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:36 am

Gagatron wrote:If God isn't real, then why is it a universal concept among almost all religions?


There is a universal concept of dragon's, but we are not debating whether they are real or not. There is also a concept of vampire's and also fairy's... so does that mean that, by this arguement, they are also real?
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Postby Peepelonia » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:34 am

Underium wrote:I know this is a touchy subject to some people, however due to my recent observations I see that most people in Nationstates can have a good argument without throwing in rage, or insults so let the discussions begin.

Personally I used to believe in god but now I just don't see how its possible.



It is my belife that God exists yes.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:15 am

Khytenna wrote:
Gagatron wrote:If God isn't real, then why is it a universal concept among almost all religions?


There is a universal concept of dragon's, but we are not debating whether they are real or not. There is also a concept of vampire's and also fairy's... so does that mean that, by this arguement, they are also real?


You'd be surprised how big the differences between dragons are between countries. Same for vampires and faeries ;)
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Postby Unchecked Expansion » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:16 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Khytenna wrote:
There is a universal concept of dragon's, but we are not debating whether they are real or not. There is also a concept of vampire's and also fairy's... so does that mean that, by this arguement, they are also real?


You'd be surprised how big the differences between dragons are between countries. Same for vampires and faeries ;)

Same for gods

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:16 am

Gagatron wrote:I'm done. I'm done trying to prove God's existence. The sun will go black and the moon will turn red, and the Heavens will peel back revealing the hidden. Then you will all know.

You're aware that the Moon went red a week or two ago, are you not?

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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:17 am

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Ceannairceach wrote:I'd start from the beginning, were I you...

Fine then how about the first story in the bible?

Proving the abrahamaic god doesn't exist still would not be proving that no god exists...
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Postby Antnay » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:26 am

The proof of God is in the bible, and if God isn't real then its pretty much impossible to say that Jesus is as well, which im pretty sure he has walked this earth for 33 years, again, look it up in the bible. The reality of God is in faith, he is a spirit of all beings, he can be a man or a deer, but in heaven he is the Lord and Jesus is seated to the right of him. If he wasnt real there would be no earth, now I know there is science behind the creation of earth and all of it is accurate pretty much, but if there's science then why are there religions, because religion is fact, science is studying of the earth, you cant deny fact, and you can find fact of God being real in the Bible.

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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:26 am

Holy crap! People are still posting here? Why can't you just accept that I was right and none of you know what you're talking about?

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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:46 am

Antnay wrote:The proof of God is in the bible, and if God isn't real then its pretty much impossible to say that Jesus is as well, which im pretty sure he has walked this earth for 33 years, again, look it up in the bible. The reality of God is in faith, he is a spirit of all beings, he can be a man or a deer, but in heaven he is the Lord and Jesus is seated to the right of him. If he wasnt real there would be no earth, now I know there is science behind the creation of earth and all of it is accurate pretty much, but if there's science then why are there religions, because religion is fact, science is studying of the earth, you cant deny fact, and you can find fact of God being real in the Bible.

You don't know what the word "proof" means, do you?
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:48 am

Antnay wrote:The proof of God is in the bible, and if God isn't real then its pretty much impossible to say that Jesus is as well, which im pretty sure he has walked this earth for 33 years, again, look it up in the bible. The reality of God is in faith, he is a spirit of all beings, he can be a man or a deer, but in heaven he is the Lord and Jesus is seated to the right of him. If he wasnt real there would be no earth, now I know there is science behind the creation of earth and all of it is accurate pretty much, but if there's science then why are there religions, because religion is fact, science is studying of the earth, you cant deny fact, and you can find fact of God being real in the Bible.

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Postby Kreigan » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:54 am

Antnay wrote:The proof of God is in the bible, and if God isn't real then its pretty much impossible to say that Jesus is as well, which im pretty sure he has walked this earth for 33 years, again, look it up in the bible. The reality of God is in faith, he is a spirit of all beings, he can be a man or a deer, but in heaven he is the Lord and Jesus is seated to the right of him. If he wasnt real there would be no earth, now I know there is science behind the creation of earth and all of it is accurate pretty much, but if there's science then why are there religions, because religion is fact, science is studying of the earth, you cant deny fact, and you can find fact of God being real in the Bible.


Too bad the bible isnt a reliable source. Also there are religons because people are raised on it from their parents but most dont take it sieroius and just wear their religon like a label. Also religon isnt fact because there is no proof of anything the bible says happened in real life. Also evolution proves the bible wrong on the creation of man. Also lets not forget why did god make billions of galaxies and planets but only put lifeo n this planet as far as we know?
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Postby Kreigan » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:57 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Antnay wrote:The proof of God is in the bible, and if God isn't real then its pretty much impossible to say that Jesus is as well, which im pretty sure he has walked this earth for 33 years, again, look it up in the bible. The reality of God is in faith, he is a spirit of all beings, he can be a man or a deer, but in heaven he is the Lord and Jesus is seated to the right of him. If he wasnt real there would be no earth, now I know there is science behind the creation of earth and all of it is accurate pretty much, but if there's science then why are there religions, because religion is fact, science is studying of the earth, you cant deny fact, and you can find fact of God being real in the Bible.

You don't know what the word "proof" means, do you?


Im going to assume he's the typical religous person who doesnt really take their religon sieroius and just wears it as a label and when qustioned he goes with the "well it says in the bible" nonsense.
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Postby Hossaim » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:01 am

Antnay wrote:The proof of God is in the bible, and if God isn't real then its pretty much impossible to say that Jesus is as well, which im pretty sure he has walked this earth for 33 years, again, look it up in the bible. The reality of God is in faith, he is a spirit of all beings, he can be a man or a deer, but in heaven he is the Lord and Jesus is seated to the right of him. If he wasnt real there would be no earth, now I know there is science behind the creation of earth and all of it is accurate pretty much, but if there's science then why are there religions, because religion is fact, science is studying of the earth, you cant deny fact, and you can find fact of God being real in the Bible.

1. We are religious because in the olden days we could not explain everything, so we made up a bunch of reasons, now we know better.

2. The bible is a BOOK! it has stories! There is no proof one of them is real. i can just as well claim that Harry is god from the harry potter books, it is the true wizal(wizards bible)!
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Postby Communist phil » Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:25 am

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Communist phil wrote:God do exist, we cannot truly claim that he or she exist because no one have even seen a God, But When there is no God, how can be possible that a cell can create a more complex and organized rational organism? Besides, How can we live in accordance with the harmony of life if there is no God?

It is possible for single cells to begin living in colonies in the same way that complex life can move from solitary life to colonies.

One cell finds a bunch of cells like it. They don't eat each other, and so it is safe to be together. And, more importantly, when there's a bunch of them together, each one is less likely to be eaten by a predator. So now they all live in a big mass. But it's inefficient for each to be doing the same jobs to survive...so one gathers food, one transports food, etc. Presto...the early stages of complex life.

As for "how can we live in accordance with the harmony of life", I have no clue what that even means.

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Postby Zeth Rekia » Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:29 am

Antnay wrote:The proof of God is in the bible....

Conclusion. God does not exist outside of his little novel.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:35 am

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:Holy crap! People are still posting here? Why can't you just accept that I was right and none of you know what you're talking about?



Because I'm God and therefor know better :)
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:53 am

Antnay wrote:The proof of God is in the bible, and if God isn't real then its pretty much impossible to say that Jesus is as well, which im pretty sure he has walked this earth for 33 years, again, look it up in the bible. The reality of God is in faith, he is a spirit of all beings, he can be a man or a deer, but in heaven he is the Lord and Jesus is seated to the right of him. If he wasnt real there would be no earth, now I know there is science behind the creation of earth and all of it is accurate pretty much, but if there's science then why are there religions, because religion is fact, science is studying of the earth, you cant deny fact, and you can find fact of God being real in the Bible.


how much of the bible has to be false before it stops being proof?
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Postby St George of England » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:20 am

Is God Real?

Maybe.
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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:50 am

St George of England wrote:Is God Real?

Maybe.

Best and most honest answer in this thread. I didn't read it, I don't need to, to know that.
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Postby St George of England » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:52 am

Sibirsky wrote:
St George of England wrote:Is God Real?

Maybe.

Best and most honest answer in this thread. I didn't read it, I don't need to, to know that.

I should have put a /thread as well.
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