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Is god real?

Yes
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40%
Undecided
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No
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The Murtunian Tribes
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:20 pm

Azaca wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:Probably not.

theirs no probably to it ther is no god and we all need to realize that


Prove it.

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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:50 pm

I'm done. I'm done trying to prove God's existence. The sun will go black and the moon will turn red, and the Heavens will peel back revealing the hidden. Then you will all know.
God, I want to dream again,
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Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:55 pm

Gagatron wrote:I'm done. I'm done trying to prove God's existence. The sun will go black and the moon will turn red, and the Heavens will peel back revealing the hidden. Then you will all know.

I am so tempted to ... but I'll be good. And I will also predict that you'll be back at it, if not in this thread, in another. See you then! :)
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Postby Norstal » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:57 pm

Gagatron wrote:I'm done. I'm done trying to prove God's existence. The sun will go black and the moon will turn red, and the Heavens will peel back revealing the hidden. Then you will all know.

The sun goes white first before it turns black. The moon, however, will stay the same color.

Ok ok, sorry. Though I hope you're not condemning the rest of us to hell.
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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:59 pm

Norstal wrote:
Gagatron wrote:I'm done. I'm done trying to prove God's existence. The sun will go black and the moon will turn red, and the Heavens will peel back revealing the hidden. Then you will all know.

The sun goes white first before it turns black. The moon, however, will stay the same color.

Ok ok, sorry. Though I hope you're not condemning the rest of us to hell.


Some of you will wise up when that day comes, I'm sure.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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United Dependencies
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Postby United Dependencies » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:00 pm

Gagatron wrote:I'm done. I'm done trying to prove God's existence. The sun will go black and the moon will turn red, and the Heavens will peel back revealing the hidden. Then you will all know.

As a fellow christian, instead of trying to prove the existence of our lord through words, I would recomend leading by example.
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Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Gagatron » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:06 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Gagatron wrote:I'm done. I'm done trying to prove God's existence. The sun will go black and the moon will turn red, and the Heavens will peel back revealing the hidden. Then you will all know.

As a fellow christian, instead of trying to prove the existence of our lord through words, I would recomend leading by example.


This is an internet forum. There's not much more than words.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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United Dependencies
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Postby United Dependencies » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:08 pm

Gagatron wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:As a fellow christian, instead of trying to prove the existence of our lord through words, I would recomend leading by example.


This is an internet forum. There's not much more than words.

I think you'll find that one can practice christian ideals even on an internet forum.
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Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

This is Nationstates we're here to help

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Luciratus
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Postby Luciratus » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:32 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Gagatron wrote:
This is an internet forum. There's not much more than words.

I think you'll find that one can practice christian ideals even on an internet forum.

Christian ideas? Which ideas?
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:War is a necessary evil. True peace is impossible.
As long as we tell ourselves the first sentence, the second one will always be true.

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Cameroi wrote:And I still say, 9 out of 10 fetuses would rather be aborted then be born unwanted.

Did you poll those fetuses on their opinion?

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Postby Luciratus » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:33 pm

Norstal wrote:
Gagatron wrote:I'm done. I'm done trying to prove God's existence. The sun will go black and the moon will turn red, and the Heavens will peel back revealing the hidden. Then you will all know.

The sun goes white first before it turns black. The moon, however, will stay the same color.

Ok ok, sorry. Though I hope you're not condemning the rest of us to hell.

We are in Hell. Justin Bieber's the devil. :p
Stop the killing! Free Libya!
Please, help Japan and Oceania in any manner possible. Pray or hope for their safety and health.
I am a Grammar Nazi. As such, I prefer posts that are comprehensible.
Cannot think of a name wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:War is a necessary evil. True peace is impossible.
As long as we tell ourselves the first sentence, the second one will always be true.

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Cameroi wrote:And I still say, 9 out of 10 fetuses would rather be aborted then be born unwanted.

Did you poll those fetuses on their opinion?

Ezekiel Bardoff (dictator)
Yavid Biram (chairman)
Yashua Mithridates (two terms)
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The Murtunian Tribes
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:33 pm

Luciratus wrote:
Norstal wrote:The sun goes white first before it turns black. The moon, however, will stay the same color.

Ok ok, sorry. Though I hope you're not condemning the rest of us to hell.

We are in Hell. Justin Bieber's the devil. :p


I think you give Justin Bieber too much credit.

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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:34 pm

Luciratus wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:I think you'll find that one can practice christian ideals even on an internet forum.

Christian ideas? Which ideas?

IdeaLs.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Luciratus
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Postby Luciratus » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:05 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Luciratus wrote:Christian ideas? Which ideas?

IdeaLs.

You should all purchase the latest apple product, i-deals. Have you ever had the quaint desire to make a deal with some nefarious entity such as Hitler, Judas, Stalin, Satan, Mussolini, or Jackson? Well, then purchase i-deals. It comes with over five hundred million different kinds of deals with people all over the world except for France and Israel. i-Deals, buy it today- or else.
*The gunmen enter the room.*
Stop the killing! Free Libya!
Please, help Japan and Oceania in any manner possible. Pray or hope for their safety and health.
I am a Grammar Nazi. As such, I prefer posts that are comprehensible.
Cannot think of a name wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:War is a necessary evil. True peace is impossible.
As long as we tell ourselves the first sentence, the second one will always be true.

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Cameroi wrote:And I still say, 9 out of 10 fetuses would rather be aborted then be born unwanted.

Did you poll those fetuses on their opinion?

Ezekiel Bardoff (dictator)
Yavid Biram (chairman)
Yashua Mithridates (two terms)
Alistaire Hawthorne (current)

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Postby Jagalonia » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:07 pm

Or you could buy the I-rack, to put all of your I products in.
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fridge.setTempC(100);
sysout("I'm melting! I'm meeeeelting! Oh what a world, what world!");
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Postby Luciratus » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:09 pm

Jagalonia wrote:Or you could buy the I-rack, to put all of your I products in.

The I-rack doesn't want our shit, but we can put it there anyway. I take the I-ran off my foot and put it on the I-rack.
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Stop the killing! Free Libya!
Please, help Japan and Oceania in any manner possible. Pray or hope for their safety and health.
I am a Grammar Nazi. As such, I prefer posts that are comprehensible.
Cannot think of a name wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:War is a necessary evil. True peace is impossible.
As long as we tell ourselves the first sentence, the second one will always be true.

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Cameroi wrote:And I still say, 9 out of 10 fetuses would rather be aborted then be born unwanted.

Did you poll those fetuses on their opinion?

Ezekiel Bardoff (dictator)
Yavid Biram (chairman)
Yashua Mithridates (two terms)
Alistaire Hawthorne (current)

Factbook

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Jagalonia
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Postby Jagalonia » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:16 pm

Luciratus wrote:
Jagalonia wrote:Or you could buy the I-rack, to put all of your I products in.

The I-rack doesn't want our shit, but we can put it there anyway. I take the I-ran off my foot and put it on the I-rack.

No! You're putting too much in the I-rack! It can't hold any more!
Tokyoni wrote:Hitler's mustache looks weird. Adam Smith was a drunken fatass. There, I've just pwned fascism and capitalism by such "logic".
Edlichbury wrote:OOC: If Knootoss can claim alcohol is a biological weapon, I can claim sentient Milk-People.
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.
lolz ensued
Ifreann wrote:
Computer Land wrote:I don't want someone hacking my fridge :meh:

fridge.setTempC(100);
sysout("I'm melting! I'm meeeeelting! Oh what a world, what world!");
I'm Amish...Problem?
Unsigable. >.>
I am a Magnificent Titan who likes to Devour Heroes
All tech.

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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:17 pm

Jagalonia wrote:
Luciratus wrote:The I-rack doesn't want our shit, but we can put it there anyway. I take the I-ran off my foot and put it on the I-rack.

No! You're putting too much in the I-rack! It can't hold any more!

Oh my God! The I-Rack is setting on fire!
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Urstania
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Postby Urstania » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:30 pm

Im of the belief that their is somekind of divine source/higher form of life/god/universe/seed thing of everything, whatever you want to call it that is responsible for absolutly everything in existence.

I dont think "Nothing" is responsible for everything I see around me, I believe "Something" is responsible for my existence and everything I see around me, I personally dont know what that Something is but I try to understand it as best as I can. Science/mathmatics etc are methods the universe/god has given us in helping to understand what it is. Science doesnt disprove god it just tells us how god works and I think spirituality and science can work together and is better working together then being in conflict with eachother.
Spirituality is another way of helping a being feel more connected/closer to that "something" that is responsible for all that is.

My Opinion is that God is real, when your looking at complicated mathmatical equations that explain universal concepts you are looking at the Universe, when you read about the big bang theory and other scientific theories your reading about how the Universe works. When you simply look out the window your looking at something that was created by the Universe. Now just replace the word Universe with the word "God" if you want

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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:54 pm

Gagatron wrote:I'm done. I'm done trying to prove God's existence. The sun will go black and the moon will turn red, and the Heavens will peel back revealing the hidden. Then you will all know.

Just to point out, these things have already happened (read: solar and lunar eclipses) and therefore aren't signs of the end of the world. I'd rethink that threat/warning.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:55 pm

Like a G6.

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Postby New Kereptica » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:08 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:I think you give Justin Bieber too much credit.


I think you give the devil too much credit.
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Postby Underium » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:09 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Azaca wrote:theirs no probably to it ther is no god and we all need to realize that


Prove it.

Ok, where do you want me to begin?

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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:11 pm

Underium wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Prove it.

Ok, where do you want me to begin?

I'd start from the beginning, were I you...

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Postby Underium » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:12 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Underium wrote:Ok, where do you want me to begin?

I'd start from the beginning, were I you...

Fine then how about the first story in the bible?

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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:13 pm

Underium wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:I'd start from the beginning, were I you...

Fine then how about the first story in the bible?

I'm just pointing out that you should always start from the beginning when refuting something.

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