Is god real?

[CanuckHeaven]

Of course there is a God......just look around you.......the evidence is awe inspiring!! Enjoy this life and enjoy the afterlife forever!!

I agree.

It would be silly if I disagreed with myself

[Sucrati]

Of course there is a God......just look around you.......the evidence is awe inspiring!! Enjoy this life and enjoy the afterlife forever!!

I agree.

It would be silly if I disagreed with myself

That and you would get a nice straightjacket...

[Greater Koryo]

Chuck Norris believes there's a god, so there is.

[Ifreann]

That's silly. I already talk to too many Gods. Why would I want another one bossing me around? Besides... why in the world would god have a penis? That's preposterous.

What kind of God wouldn't keep one around for impregnating random women/animals?

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I believe that God exists, in fact I believe MANY Gods exist, but I chose one out of many...

Here's a little story...

A couple of days ago, I tried to start my car after eating some lunch...

It wouldn't start...

I had someone come and help jumpstart it...

After several tries using several different methods...

I said...

"God, I cannot afford to lose this car, its either this or you let me win the lottery."

The car starts...

Please be serious, please be serious.

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TO SUMMARIZE THIS BRIEFLY AND WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IDIOCY.....

Pity you just couldn't resist some childish, idiotic insults. Oh well.

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Intelligent design is fraudulent.

I'm not sure what you meant by evolution being based on creationism, but nuclear physics says otherwise. Carbon dating shows that these plants and creatures don't come from no where.

Also, he can't speak for all scientists.

1- I never said intelligent design. I said by design, which is the only explanation for a cell that is unable to have its course and function altered.

You must not be familiar with cancer.

2- What I mean by evolution being based on creationism is, this theory was originally started to explain how God created the world not disprove the involvement of a deity. Even Darwin stated it, and his early work in the field reflected that. It wasn't until recently that atheists decided to use evolution as their banner.

Evolution has nothing to do with God, atheism, or the origins of life, the origins of planet Earth, or the origins of the universe. The Theory Of Evolution By Natural Selection seeks only to explain the diversity of life we see around us. PROTIP: It involves natural selection.

3- Nuclear physics does not claim there was nothing in the beginning. In fact it still holds the claim that there was nothing, and in that nothing gasses collided. However, they have no explanation for anything prior to when the gasses collided.

Nuclear physics does not claim anything about the origins of the universe, nuclear physics being concerned with the physics of nuclear reactions. You can tell because of its name.

Of course, none of that is relevant to radiological dating.

So, that area tends to be a bit hazy, being hush hush and all.

Hush hush? Are you suggesting that scientists are covering up their discoveries regarding the origin of the universe?

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Do I beleive in evolution?
No.

Evolution, young marijuana lover, is not a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact. Evolution is a fact. It happens. We've seen it happen, in the wild and in the lab. The Theory of Evolution is about explaining how it happens, and why it happens this way instead of that.

Similarly, gravity is a fact. We know that gravity happens. We're just somewhat at a loss as to why. Gravity, as I understand it, is far less understood than evolution and natural selection. Where is all the controversy about gravity? Of course there is none. The controversy about evolution and other fields of science comes about because their findings increasingly support the possibility that the universe and life on Earth could have happened without any god or gods. This greatly upsets some theists, because they desperately want validation of their beliefs.

[Rokartian States]

Evolution = some sad, lonely man's way of making himself look s00per smahrt and intellectual and scientific.

Kindly cut the flaming.

Also theory =/= fact, ergo it isn't a fact.

A scientific theory is defined such that it is the closest one could possibly come to truth in science.

Would it been easier to type:

*fingers in ears*

lalalalalalalallalalalalalalalalal

Why do you mock him for his beliefsÉ

A.) That's not mocking him for his beliefs. That's mocking him for his inability to act like a civil, rational person.
B.) Calling evolution believers "sad, lonely [men]" who are only trying to "[make themselves] look s00per smahrt and intellectual and scientific" is mocking us for our beliefs.

[Esternial]

Also theory =/= fact, ergo it isn't a fact.

A scientific theory is defined such that it is the closest one could possibly come to truth in science.

That, and who cares about facts? It's my opinion that matters, because facts change and my opinion doesn't.

[The Alma Mater]

Evolution = some sad, lonely man's way of making himself look s00per smahrt and intellectual and scientific. Also theory =/= fact, ergo it isn't a fact.

Tsktsktsk silly.

You have:

The FACT of evolution
AND
The THEORY of evolution (through natural selection yaddieyadda)

The two are related but not the same But the fact of evolution certainly is a fact.

[Dyakovo]

At what? Their way did unite a struggling and at times violent population in times on economic hardship. That it united everyone else against them is a mark against it though

So, everyone agreed they were wrong, did they not? Different societies included? Would this mean that there was standard above society?

No, not really.

[Rokartian States]

A scientific theory is defined such that it is the closest one could possibly come to truth in science.

That, and who cares about facts? It's my opinion that matters, because facts change and my opinion doesn't.

-Nod- This is true.

[Ifreann]

Evolution = some sad, lonely man's way of making himself look s00per smahrt and intellectual and scientific. Also theory =/= fact, ergo it isn't a fact.

Tsktsktsk silly.

You have:

The FACT of evolution
AND
The THEORY of evolution (through natural selection yaddieyadda)

The two are related but not the same But the fact of evolution certainly is a fact.

The hint is in the name.

[Dyakovo]

God told me to come here and tell you that she is real but to stop calling her by that "stupid name". She's much more amicable to Ahmanda and being given things instead of asked for things.

Welcome back...
Love your flag btw...

[Dyakovo]

So was Mein Kampf.

No, that was a book based on the accounts of ONE man, who was an Atheist, and instituted government suppressed religion and touted scientific bases to wipe out millions of people.

[Tehraan]

No, that was a book based on the accounts of ONE man, who was an Atheist, and instituted government suppressed religion and touted scientific bases to wipe out millions of people.

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Regardless nobody knows what Hitlers religion was. He made a lot of contradictory statements about it.

[Dyakovo]

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Regardless nobody knows what Hitlers religion was. He made a lot of contradictory statements about it.

Which is why I was laughing at the declaration that he was an atheist.

[South Norwega]

The crusades did the same thing. Hitler was also a Jew.

Actually I never knew that the Bible explicitly states to kill anyone who doesn't believe in God, the Crusades were intended to cut out the middle man over trade with China, the historians blame religion as the primary culprit, a secondary reason was because Muslims had invaded Christian territory and pretty much killed or converted by force, but we hardly hear about that.

No, his grandmother on his moms side (I think) was Jewish.

That's been thoroughly disproven, I believe. Hitler wasn't Jewish, but he worried that he was. He ordered a graveyard in Austria be used as an Artillery range to purge the possible taint.

[Ashmoria]

Of course, if you let reason rule absolutely, you also get crazy dogma's like "Kill genetically handicapped children at birth." Why? Because allowing such mutations to exist (when prior to human medical advances they would have died) and subsequently reproduce has the net effect of weakening the human gene pool. Evolutionary theory shows that those most suited to environments will survive; weaker genes doom the species.

I'm not arguing that as a good doctrine. I'm merely saying that any thought pattern taken to extremes leads to extremism. That includes what is often referred to as reason.

Bullcrap. "Reason" does not dictate any such thing. I'm quite capable of applying my reason and noting that many genetically handicapped people do amazing things for our species, and for myself (indirectly), and therefore we benefit from helping them overcome whatever irrelevant physiological deficits they might experience.

before our devotion to reason and the scientific method the handicapped from all causes DIED due to "god's will". now we save more and make sure that the vast majority of those have a good life.

ill take reason any day.

[Sucrati]

I believe that God exists, in fact I believe MANY Gods exist, but I chose one out of many...

Here's a little story...

A couple of days ago, I tried to start my car after eating some lunch...

It wouldn't start...

I had someone come and help jumpstart it...

After several tries using several different methods...

I said...

"God, I cannot afford to lose this car, its either this or you let me win the lottery."

The car starts...

Please be serious, please be serious.

I am serious, this happened to me Last Sunday, I was at a Sonic Restaurant, my car parked at a pull up ordering spot... on top of that I asked God to let the Bears win, which they did.

I was shocked as Bruce Nolan was after he told his POS car to start in that movie , however I don't have the powers of God, nor would I want them.

Evolution = some sad, lonely man's way of making himself look s00per smahrt and intellectual and scientific. Also theory =/= fact, ergo it isn't a fact.

Tsktsktsk silly.

You have:

The FACT of evolution
AND
The THEORY of evolution (through natural selection yaddieyadda)

The two are related but not the same But the fact of evolution certainly is a fact.

Same thing for Religious Fact and Religious Theory.

[Ifreann]

Please be serious, please be serious.

I am serious, this happened to me Last Sunday, I was at a Sonic Restaurant, my car parked at a pull up ordering spot... on top of that I asked God to let the Bears win, which they did.

I was shocked as Bruce Nolan was after he told his POS car to start in that movie , however I don't have the powers of God, nor would I want them.

Awwww, just not convincing enough for me to be properly amused.

[New Unsociety]

We do not know,and by definition of what is called "metaphysical" we will never be able to know,as the existence or nonexistence of metaphysical cannot be proven or disproven.

[Sucrati]

I am serious, this happened to me Last Sunday, I was at a Sonic Restaurant, my car parked at a pull up ordering spot... on top of that I asked God to let the Bears win, which they did.

I was shocked as Bruce Nolan was after he told his POS car to start in that movie , however I don't have the powers of God, nor would I want them.

Awwww, just not convincing enough for me to be properly amused.

Hey, It did happen, if your supposedly 'open mind' can't comprehend that happening, then fine

[Ifreann]

Awwww, just not convincing enough for me to be properly amused.

Hey, It did happen, if your supposedly 'open mind' can't comprehend that happening, then fine

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to think that you worship God because you think he started your car for you, but you're just not convincing me that you're not trying to take the piss out of Christians.

[Sedgistan]

Good observation buddy.

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[Free Soviets]

rejection is distinct from mere lack. i think the word loses value if we include those who simply have never been introduced to the concept but would jump at the chance to believe in gods if anybody mentioned them along side those that have actively rejected the theist position. i'm normally something of a lumper, but on this the split is legit. i mean, we could go even more inclusive and include everybody that lacks a belief in the true god, whatever that is, and turn everybody in the world into atheists. but that would be silly. distinctions must be made, and distinctions must be defended.

(note that i will include multiple sorts of rejections under the term - those like me who think all the various deities are false as well as those who think the various concepts presented are incoherent, for example)

That definition of atheism is not neutral, it shouldn't say rejection, for rejection implies denial of some kind, it should say instead of rejection, "a lack of belief"

why should we want neutrality? my argument is precisely that we ought use the term 'atheist' to refer explicitly to those who actively have rejected the theist position and not to infants, because the vast majority of those 'atheist' babies will become theists the moment they have enough grasp of language to understand the concept of gods.

[Luciratus]

In my opinion anyone who thinks god is real is a complete retard.....
But I also believe in freedom of religion sooooo.
Whatever

Nice.
"You disagree with me, therefore you are mentally deficient."
You must, of course, recognize that there are religious individuals who display a greater level of intelligence than non-religious individuals. Atheism does not directly impact an individuals capacity to accumulate or retain knowledge- unless, of course, you create some form of unthinking zealotry. Besides, science is not the only way of investigating the world, despite the fact that is the most ubiquitous and successful. Your reasponse is, quite frankly, narrow minded and incorrect. However, I expect that another poster has already mentioned why your statement is wrong so-

[Bottle]

Bullcrap. "Reason" does not dictate any such thing. I'm quite capable of applying my reason and noting that many genetically handicapped people do amazing things for our species, and for myself (indirectly), and therefore we benefit from helping them overcome whatever irrelevant physiological deficits they might experience.

before our devotion to reason and the scientific method the handicapped from all causes DIED due to "god's will". now we save more and make sure that the vast majority of those have a good life.

ill take reason any day.

Damn right.

Indeed, who are we to meddle in God's plan? If God wills that your child be born with a defective heart, then how dare you presume to meddle? Watch your child die painfully...it is the will of your God, eh?

I, meanwhile, recognize no God or plan of God, so I will save my children and as many other children as I may, because reason instructs me that doing so is important for my ends.

So if reason is my "god," then at the end of a year let's lay the corpses our "gods" have each claimed side by side, and see who tallies most.