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Is god real?

Yes
450
40%
Undecided
185
16%
No
492
44%
 
Total votes : 1127

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DOPE420
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Founded: Dec 13, 2010
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Postby DOPE420 » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:49 am

New Franco-Germany wrote:TO SUMMARIZE THIS BRIEFLY AND WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IDIOCY, WHICH I'M SURE I'LL GET SOME WITTY RESPONSES TO...
God = real and made everything and continues to allow the creation of new humans, don't take it for granted you silly atheists.
Evolution = some sad, lonely man's way of making himself look s00per smahrt and intellectual and scientific. Also theory =/= fact, ergo it isn't a fact.
Atheism = your choice and respectibly so, but don't blame others for the consequences.
That is all.



No witty response...
I just think your a coplete douchbag!
Darwin Was an extremely inteligent man.
Do I beleive in evolution?
No.
BUT!
I respect darwin for chalenging a known "fact" an coming up with a fairly logical way of explaining life on earth instead of going along with all that supernatural bullshit.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:51 am

New Franco-Germany wrote:TO SUMMARIZE THIS BRIEFLY AND WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IDIOCY, WHICH I'M SURE I'LL GET SOME WITTY RESPONSES TO...
God = real and made everything and continues to allow the creation of new humans, don't take it for granted you silly atheists.
Evolution = some sad, lonely man's way of making himself look s00per smahrt and intellectual and scientific. Also theory =/= fact, ergo it isn't a fact.
Atheism = your choice and respectibly so, but don't blame others for the consequences.
That is all.


Would it been easier to type:

*fingers in ears*

lalalalalalalallalalalalalalalalal
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Norstal
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Postby Norstal » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:54 am

Birrapex wrote:1- I never said intelligent design. I said by design, which is the only explanation for a cell that is unable to have its course and function altered.

If you say so.

2- What I mean by evolution being based on creationism is, this theory was originally started to explain how God created the world not disprove the involvement of a deity. Even Darwin stated it, and his early work in the field reflected that. It wasn't until recently that atheists decided to use evolution as their banner.

I see. That makes it even more foolhardy to believe in creationism then.

3- Nuclear physics does not claim there was nothing in the beginning. In fact it still holds the claim that there was nothing, and in that nothing gasses collided. However, they have no explanation for anything prior to when the gasses collided. So, that area tends to be a bit hazy, being hush hush and all.

Yes, I can't fully explain it myself without going over my textbook either. Fair enough, but neither does this prove god exists.

4- I never said he spoke for all scientists. Nor did I say all scientists believe in God. I said scientists believe in God, and this may hurt your delicate vision of scientists, but alot of them do.

Nais, you accuse me of saying scientists are atheists now.

I'm well aware that over 50% of physicists are theists.

5- Why didn't you have a problem with the 5 year old dead pope quote? He doesn't speak for all Christians and was a half a breath away from senile when he proclaimed that.

Because I'm tired and I didn't feel the need to disagree that the pope acknowledges it as a fact. After all, what you get out of that quote was just that, not something akin to "Christians believe in evolution".
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Canuck Utopia
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Postby Canuck Utopia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:56 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Sucrati wrote:
^^ This ^^


There is a porno store on the way to work; where do I find God in there?

God is with you.....wherever you may go.

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Zeth Rekia
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Postby Zeth Rekia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:57 am

Canuck Utopia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
There is a porno store on the way to work; where do I find God in there?

God is with you.....wherever you may go.

That's creepy as shit. Good thing he doesn't do anything.

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Nort Eurasia
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Postby Nort Eurasia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:57 am

Zeth Rekia wrote:
Canuck Utopia wrote:God is with you.....wherever you may go.

That's creepy as shit. Good thing he doesn't do anything.


Or does he...?
You should not give in to evils, but proceed ever so boldly against them.

What is asserted without reason may be denied without reason.

A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it.

He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.

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The Black Forrest
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:00 am

Canuck Utopia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
There is a porno store on the way to work; where do I find God in there?

God is with you.....wherever you may go.


Really? What kind of Porn is he into?
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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New Franco-Germany
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Postby New Franco-Germany » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:02 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
New Franco-Germany wrote:TO SUMMARIZE THIS BRIEFLY AND WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IDIOCY, WHICH I'M SURE I'LL GET SOME WITTY RESPONSES TO...
God = real and made everything and continues to allow the creation of new humans, don't take it for granted you silly atheists.
Evolution = some sad, lonely man's way of making himself look s00per smahrt and intellectual and scientific. Also theory =/= fact, ergo it isn't a fact.
Atheism = your choice and respectibly so, but don't blame others for the consequences.
That is all.


Would it been easier to type:

*fingers in ears*

lalalalalalalallalalalalalalalalal

Sorry what?
I couldn't hear you, I was busy yodelling with corks in my ears.
;)
New Franco-Germany wrote:
Zeth Rekia wrote:That would strictly be your opinion.

That would strictly be my opinion.

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Birrapex
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Postby Birrapex » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:05 am

Norstal wrote:If you say so.

If you have another answer for it the atheists and I would love to hear it.

I see. That makes it even more foolhardy to believe in creationism then.

I suppose it could be taken that way.

Yes, I can't fully explain it myself without going over my textbook either. Fair enough, but neither does this prove god exists.

No one can prove nor disprove God's existence. Humans have been trying to since the first thought of God entered our heads.

Nais, you accuse me of saying scientists are atheists now.

Goose/Gander type of thing :lol2:

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Birrapex
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Postby Birrapex » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:06 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Canuck Utopia wrote:God is with you.....wherever you may go.


Really? What kind of Porn is he into?



Hardcore Sado-Masochism :meh:

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Canuck Utopia
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Postby Canuck Utopia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:13 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
New Franco-Germany wrote:TO SUMMARIZE THIS BRIEFLY AND WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IDIOCY, WHICH I'M SURE I'LL GET SOME WITTY RESPONSES TO...
God = real and made everything and continues to allow the creation of new humans, don't take it for granted you silly atheists.
Evolution = some sad, lonely man's way of making himself look s00per smahrt and intellectual and scientific. Also theory =/= fact, ergo it isn't a fact.
Atheism = your choice and respectibly so, but don't blame others for the consequences.
That is all.


Would it been easier to type:

*fingers in ears*

lalalalalalalallalalalalalalalalal

Why do you mock him for his beliefsÉ

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New Franco-Germany
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Postby New Franco-Germany » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:15 am

Canuck Utopia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Would it been easier to type:

*fingers in ears*

lalalalalalalallalalalalalalalalal

Why do you mock him for his beliefsÉ

I don't consider it mocking
I consider it successful trolololing of somebody who contradicts my beliefs because they's all new age and smart.
New Franco-Germany wrote:
Zeth Rekia wrote:That would strictly be your opinion.

That would strictly be my opinion.

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Greater Americania
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Postby Greater Americania » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:17 am

Personally I'd love to be able to believe in God, but I just can't see how the concept is rationally plausible.
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Postby Zeth Rekia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:18 am

Greater Americania wrote:Personally I'd love to be able to believe in God, but I just can't see how the concept is rationally plausible.

Go to bed. You'll be able to believe it then.

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Postby Nort Eurasia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:20 am

Greater Americania wrote:Personally I'd love to be able to believe in God, but I just can't see how the concept is rationally plausible.


See, that's your problem. You're thinking rationally, skeptically and logically. In order to believe in God, you need to shun those concepts for faith.
You should not give in to evils, but proceed ever so boldly against them.

What is asserted without reason may be denied without reason.

A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it.

He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.

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Postby Canuck Utopia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:23 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Canuck Utopia wrote:God is with you.....wherever you may go.


Really? What kind of Porn is he into?

I don`t know.....why don`t you ask Him when you say your prayers? :lol:

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Birrapex
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Postby Birrapex » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:26 am

Nort Eurasia wrote:
Greater Americania wrote:Personally I'd love to be able to believe in God, but I just can't see how the concept is rationally plausible.


See, that's your problem. You're thinking rationally, skeptically and logically. In order to believe in God, you need to shun those concepts for faith.


Can you explain how not considering that there could be a lifeform higher than ours is rational or logical?

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Postby Canuck Utopia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:27 am

Nort Eurasia wrote:
Greater Americania wrote:Personally I'd love to be able to believe in God, but I just can't see how the concept is rationally plausible.


See, that's your problem. You're thinking rationally, skeptically and logically. In order to believe in God, you need to shun those concepts for faith.

That would strictly be your opinion.

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Zeth Rekia
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Postby Zeth Rekia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:29 am

Canuck Utopia wrote:
Nort Eurasia wrote:
See, that's your problem. You're thinking rationally, skeptically and logically. In order to believe in God, you need to shun those concepts for faith.

That would strictly be your opinion.

That would strictly be your opinion.

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Postby Canuck Utopia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:29 am

Birrapex wrote:
Nort Eurasia wrote:
See, that's your problem. You're thinking rationally, skeptically and logically. In order to believe in God, you need to shun those concepts for faith.


Can you explain how not considering that there could be a lifeform higher than ours is rational or logical?

He can`t, especially if he has to use rational or logic to do so.

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Postby New Franco-Germany » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:30 am

Zeth Rekia wrote:
Canuck Utopia wrote:That would strictly be your opinion.

That would strictly be your opinion.

That would strictly be my opinion.
New Franco-Germany wrote:
Zeth Rekia wrote:That would strictly be your opinion.

That would strictly be my opinion.

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Postby Canuck Utopia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:30 am

Zeth Rekia wrote:
Canuck Utopia wrote:That would strictly be your opinion.

That would strictly be your opinion.

You are a little slow on the uptake but you have come a long way since your Godwin.

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Nort Eurasia
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Postby Nort Eurasia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:31 am

Birrapex wrote:
Nort Eurasia wrote:
See, that's your problem. You're thinking rationally, skeptically and logically. In order to believe in God, you need to shun those concepts for faith.


Can you explain how not considering that there could be a lifeform higher than ours is rational or logical?


:palm:

It was a joke..
In regards to your answer though, I could care less what you consider is my opinion or is logical fact. Know why? Because I'm an asshole.
You should not give in to evils, but proceed ever so boldly against them.

What is asserted without reason may be denied without reason.

A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it.

He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.

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Postby Birrapex » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:34 am

Nort Eurasia wrote:It was a joke..
In regards to your answer though, I could care less what you consider is my opinion or is logical fact. Know why? Because I'm an asshole.


:lol: oh I get it :palm: :meh: wait, Nope that was the other guy. I don't get it.

I don't find you to be very much of an asshole either. Usually they can back up anything they say. You are more like a fuzzy cuddly teddy bear :hug:

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Postby Nort Eurasia » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:39 am

Birrapex wrote:
Nort Eurasia wrote:It was a joke..
In regards to your answer though, I could care less what you consider is my opinion or is logical fact. Know why? Because I'm an asshole.


:lol: oh I get it :palm: :meh: wait, Nope that was the other guy. I don't get it.

I don't find you to be very much of an asshole either. Usually they can back up anything they say. You are more like a fuzzy cuddly teddy bear :hug:


I would usually use something to back up my claims, but I'm slowly becoming apatheistic..
You should not give in to evils, but proceed ever so boldly against them.

What is asserted without reason may be denied without reason.

A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it.

He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.

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