Media Bias-Fox News or MSNBC

[Treznor]

Did you miss the 13 YEARS of Hannity and Colmes?

No idea who this Colmes bloke is, but are you actually claiming Sean Hannity's a liberal?

Colmes was the token liberal in the Hannity and Colmes show. He was there as a foil for Hannity to show how superior his conservative reasoning was. Hannity recently ditched him, along with even the appearance of objectivity.

[Parthenon]

Did you miss the 13 YEARS of Hannity and Colmes? ... or the nightly liberal commentators on every single opinion show the have?

Are you claiming Hannity and Colmes is a liberal talk show?

Right, and you are an "impartial vote"? Give it a rest already. We all know you are a far-left poster, claiming impartiality is just plain ludicrous.

Except I never made any claims except Bill O'Reilly is a liar (which he demonstrably is) and Fox News' primary avenue of shows is right-wing commentator assholes.

Hannity and Colmes was a show that had both ends of the spectrum portrayed. The original claim was that Fox doesn't employ liberals while that is clearly false. Alan Colmes is one of the most listened to liberal commentators in terms of viewership out there today and is still currently employed by Fox.


Bill is about as much of a liar as any other opinion host on television regardless of the channel or ideology. You only choose to single him out because you disagree with his politics, claiming otherwise is a lie and you know it as well as I do.

[The_pantless_hero]

Did you miss the 13 YEARS of Hannity and Colmes?

No idea who this Colmes bloke is, but are you actually claiming Sean Hannity's a liberal?

Colmes was a far-right-tolerant, moderate guy who was cowed on Hannity's show for 13 years. At only one point in those 13 years did anyone cause him to lose his temper and not continue the Hannity's liberal whipping boy persona - and it was Anne Coulter.

[Phenia]

Also, Fox News making their slogan "Fair and Balanced!" reminds me of a police department making a slogan like "So Not Really Brutal Or Corrupt!"

[Maurepas]

Depends, the talk show hosts are prettymuch the same for their respective wings...

But, Faux News takes it a step further and is biased in their "Live News" segments, which I dont notice as much on the MSNBC counterpart...

[Khadgar]

Did you miss the 13 YEARS of Hannity and Colmes?

No idea who this Colmes bloke is, but are you actually claiming Sean Hannity's a liberal?

Colmes is a supposed liberal. I suppose by the standards of Fox he's a communist, but by the standards of America he's fairly moderate. By world standards he's conservative.

[Maurepas]

Did you miss the 13 YEARS of Hannity and Colmes?

No idea who this Colmes bloke is, but are you actually claiming Sean Hannity's a liberal?

Colmes is a supposed liberal. I suppose by the standards of Fox he's a communist, but by the standards of America he's fairly moderate. By world standards he's conservative.

Like the majority of the United States in general...

[The_pantless_hero]

Hannity and Colmes was a show that had both ends of the spectrum portrayed.

No. It didn't. It had Hannity, the neocon talking head and it has Colmes as a moderate sidekick.

Bill is about as much of a liar as any other opinion host on television regardless of the channel or ideology. You only choose to single him out because

Anything after the because that isn't "I brought him up" is wrong.

For example, he featured a story about a "national epidemic" of teenage lesbian gangs who carry pink pistols and try to indoctrinate young girls into lesbianism.[13][14] When confronted on the story by civil rights groups, O'Reilly later admitted it was overhyped but defended its validity.[15]

Yeah, that sounds very valid.

[No Names Left Damn It]

Colmes was a far-right-tolerant, moderate guy who was cowed on Hannity's show for 13 years. At only one point in those 13 years did anyone cause him to lose his temper and not continue the Hannity's liberal whipping boy persona - and it was Anne Coulter.

So basically he was wheeled out so they could claim they were unbiased, and he was too much of a pussy to complain about things until a total nutcase went on the show?

[Parthenon]

Cut the crap already. I could go on Wikipedia and find a small blurb about a liberal commentator as well, doesn't make them any more valid in the OPINION GENRE...

[Aloha Mars 2]

Cut the crap already. I could go on Wikipedia and find a small blurb about a liberal commentator as well, doesn't make them any more valid in the OPINION GENRE...

Who here is claiming liberal commentators are infallible? Who?

[Maurepas]

Cut the crap already. I could go on Wikipedia and find a small blurb about a liberal commentator as well, doesn't make them any more valid in the OPINION GENRE...

Who here is claiming liberal commentators are infallible? Who?

Well, I suppose someone has too...

Liberal commentators are Infallible,

[The_pantless_hero]

Colmes was a far-right-tolerant, moderate guy who was cowed on Hannity's show for 13 years. At only one point in those 13 years did anyone cause him to lose his temper and not continue the Hannity's liberal whipping boy persona - and it was Anne Coulter.

So basically he was wheeled out so they could claim they were unbiased, and he was too much of a pussy to complain about things until a total nutcase went on the show?

And only once. She practically had her own chair on the Hannity and Colmes show.

[Feazanthia]

Get your news from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.

They rag on everybody.

*sagenod*

[The_pantless_hero]

Cut the crap already. I could go on Wikipedia and find a small blurb about a liberal commentator as well, doesn't make them any more valid in the OPINION GENRE...

Perhaps you should do that then. Actually, I would like to see if there is a wikipedia page dedicated to criticisms of a single liberal commentator like there is for Bill O'Reilly. Not even Limbaugh has a whole wiki page dedicated to criticisms of him with over 60 references.

[Cannot think of a name]

MSNBC

Keith Olbermann is ten times worse than Bill could ever try to be.

While Olbermann and O'Rielly both have that smug overstated sneer that they deliver their analysis with, Olbermann's pattern of "This is stupid and here's a comedian for me to talk for five minutes with about how stupid it is," while painful even if you agree with him in it's demeaning nature (am I watching Daily Show Lite, or a news commentary show?), O'Rielly's 'shut up pinhead' style and either stretching his conclusions to the breaking point or making them of whole cloth far exceed that.

But comparing the relative bias of the news commentators is really just a manner of counting the shows. The more difficult measure is in the fifteen minutes the twenty-four hour 'news' channels actually dedicate to actual news.

[Fleckenstein]

Try applying for a job at Fox News as a registered Democrat and see how that goes.

Both are biased but Fox News is an entire organization and operation devoted to furthering conservative political viewpoints. MSNBC has KO, Maddow, and the old crazy guy Ed.

[Ryadn]

I am wondering which is more biased, Fox News To the right or MSNBC to the left. All opinions are welcome

Yes.

Seconded.

[Parthenon]

Cut the crap already. I could go on Wikipedia and find a small blurb about a liberal commentator as well, doesn't make them any more valid in the OPINION GENRE...

Perhaps you should do that then. Actually, I would like to see if there is a wikipedia page dedicated to criticisms of a single liberal commentator like there is for Bill O'Reilly. Not even Limbaugh has a whole wiki page dedicated to criticisms of him with over 60 references.

When wikipedia is crawling with people like yourself that isn't really a feat worth bragging about. Tell me, how often do you watch a complete episode of the OReilly factor rather than going off of Media Matters clips or nonsense on youtube that always seems to have the title "BILL OREILLY OWNED"?

[Saiwania]

Fox News has a conservative slant just like how MSNBC has a more liberal slant so both news channels could be said to be equally baised. The terms Faux News and Communist News Network (CNN) are but silly semantics used by partisan individuals that already have a bias. Neither channel is truely neutral in their reporting so to try to find out which one is more biased is futile. To be fully informed generally requires getting news from several substantiated sources and reaching a consensus that way.

[The_pantless_hero]

When wikipedia is crawling with people like yourself that isn't really a feat worth bragging about.

Intelligent people who know how to use a computer and can cite references?

[New Mitanni]

Did you miss the 13 YEARS of Hannity and Colmes?

No idea who this Colmes bloke is, but are you actually claiming Sean Hannity's a liberal?

Alan Colmes was, and is, a liberal who was Hannity's co-host. He appears on O'Reilly from time to time to present his views on various issues.

O'Reilly, meanwhile, tells truths that the DLM would rather not have brought to light. Those who characterize him as a "liar" have been regularly exposed as frauds, shams and liars themselves.

It never ceases to amuse me how threatened lefties feel by Fox News. They're just terrified that some point of view other than the far-left rubbish that the DLM spews on a daily basis might actually get a hearing. They also resent the huge audience that FNC has. They haven't reconciled themselves to the fact that they have lost the power to control the distribution of information.

[Fleckenstein]

far-left rubbish that the DLM spews on a daily basis [. . .] lost the power to control the distribution of information.

[Feazanthia]

Oh god. Why did I post in this thread.

Now I can't get it off my list! OH GOD!

[Lizardiar]

I think the MSNBC, but then again, I am biased against all things Liberal, or the nanny-state.