Gay and Christian

[Gagatron]

As I kind of stated earlier tongue in cheek.to many Christians, It is not a sin to eat pork, but it is a sin to eat pork (the other kind). That is picking and choosing. Either the laws of Moses are dead and the laws of Christ are in effect, or they are not. The Baptist church mentioned earlier, whom I think follow a distorted and evil perversion of Christianity, would agree that one is a sin and the other is not. They are wrong.

Who eats pork anyway? Its disgusting.

It's like you're psychic or something. My thoughts exactly.

[Indeos]

Uh...in what way does that address what I said?

It looked like you were saying the Lord doesn't require praise.

I was saying that the Lord doesn't require you to go to church, and that going to church is not inherently equivalent to praising Him.

[Eskandapolis]

Who eats pork anyway? Its disgusting.

It's like you're psychic or something. My thoughts exactly.

I only like pork when it's cooked in the chinese way or a very few cuts

[Hegstoria]

Not flame baiting at all.

He could completely see catholicism as evil and cancerous. Its no worse than when the minority of racists declare blacks to be cancerous, or the minority of intolerant Christians declare homosexuals to be evil and sinful.

He's still labeling members of the largest sect of Christianity as evil. But meh, I made no serious contribution to the thread, so I will now.

I have never had a real problem with gays, nor do I think any of my family or friends do. Sure everyone makes the odd joke here or there, but I don't think any one I know would actually fault you for being gay, and all of my friends are either Christian or Protestant (We live in the Suburbs. A heavily Italian Suburb, not a lot of Jews) and my entire Family is Catholic. I know for a fact my family isn't apposed to gays because my Aunts sister in law is a lesbian, so I'm pretty sure theres no hatred there lol. I just think it's widely misconstrued because the Vatican will come out with a statement every now and then basically saying gays are bad (which I don't like, Vatican needs to go through some major changes and it's stance on homosexuality is definitely one of them) which then makes everyone think all Catholics are homophobes, when in fact most Catholics probably don't care whether you're gay or not. I wont speak for any of the Orthodox or Protest churches because I don't know them all too well, but I'd assume it's much the same.

[Hegstoria]

As I kind of stated earlier tongue in cheek.to many Christians, It is not a sin to eat pork, but it is a sin to eat pork (the other kind). That is picking and choosing. Either the laws of Moses are dead and the laws of Christ are in effect, or they are not. The Baptist church mentioned earlier, whom I think follow a distorted and evil perversion of Christianity, would agree that one is a sin and the other is not. They are wrong.

Who eats pork anyway? Its disgusting.

I like Pork...

[Galloism]

Who eats pork anyway? Its disgusting.

I like Pork...

The best comes from Wild Boar.

[Feral Land]

[Ceannairceach]

I wont speak for any of the Orthodox or Protest churches because I don't know them all too well, but I'd assume it's much the same.

From what I've seen, Orthodox Christians are just as divided on tolerance and intolerance as Catholics.

[Hegstoria]

I like Pork...

The best comes from Wild Boar.

Damn! This restaurant near me used to sell Pulled Boar (like pulled pork) sliders and I wanted to try them, but they took them off the menu. It was either that or buffalo that was taken off, I can't remember which.

[Gagatron]

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To what tree belongs the fruit of your labor?

[Galloism]

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To which tree do the fruits of labor belong?

What?

[Norstal]

Who eats pork anyway? Its disgusting.

It's like you're psychic or something. My thoughts exactly.

Not even bacon? Impossible.

[Ravenvalles]

No, but often those who preach redemption have decriminalized some sins.

What do you mean? Redemption doesn't really do that, all it says is that you have to live a life of good works to be a faithful Christian.

The law is dead. Christ paid the penalty for everyone's sins. Works can not pay a bill that has already been paid. To attempt to do so, throws Christs sacrifice back in his face. Those that truly believe in the lamb of Christ, also believe in grace. That is what humans have a hard time embracing. Grace is spirit lead, and follows God's intent, not the law.

Once again I will state that I do not believe in redemption, I believe in reconciliation. God canceled our debt, because we just continued to insist we owed one. In reality, we owed none, What is required of us, is to follow Gods intent and direction. That is reconciliation.

[Gagatron]

It's like you're psychic or something. My thoughts exactly.

Not even bacon? Impossible.

Bacon isn't pork.

Is it?

[Galloism]

Not even bacon? Impossible.

Bacon isn't pork.

Is it?

You know... I've been on NSG a long time, and sometimes...

I'm still surprised by things people ask.

[Feral Land]

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To what tree belongs the fruit of your labor?

Sorry about that it was the wrong image, my bad

[Indeos]

Bacon isn't pork.

Is it?

You know... I've been on NSG a long time, and sometimes...

I'm still surprised by things people ask.

^This.

[Ravenvalles]

What do you mean? Redemption doesn't really do that, all it says is that you have to live a life of good works to be a faithful Christian.

Redemption means your past sins are forgiven IF, and ONLY IF you are willing to take it, which means you have to live a lifestyle that God approves of...

Once again, works do not lead to salvation. That is why the lamb was required. Man can not fulfill the law.

[Feral Land]

Not even bacon? Impossible.

Bacon isn't pork.

Is it?

Oh yes it is! and it's good, very good!

[Norstal]

Not even bacon? Impossible.

Bacon isn't pork.

Is it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon

Well its from pigs, I guess. But pigs are porks.

[Ravenvalles]

I don't think He ever required that, actually. To quote someone, "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to McDonald's makes you a hamburger".

On the contrary, praise seems to follow the Lord wherever He goes.

God does not need praise, we need to praise God.

[Norstal]

Bacon isn't pork.

Is it?

You know... I've been on NSG a long time, and sometimes...

I'm still surprised by things people ask.

People asks stranger things in this forum.

[Ravenvalles]

Of course my attitude is colored by the fact that I don't really hear gay tolerant Christians standing up to the anti-gay Christians all the time

I do all the time, I know others that do too. I do realize that we are in the minority, but we are here. My church will perform same sex marriages even though the state says that they cannot be married. We do not believe that the state sanctifies marriages, God does.

[Ravenvalles]

As I kind of stated earlier tongue in cheek.to many Christians, It is not a sin to eat pork, but it is a sin to eat pork (the other kind). That is picking and choosing. Either the laws of Moses are dead and the laws of Christ are in effect, or they are not. The Baptist church mentioned earlier, whom I think follow a distorted and evil perversion of Christianity, would agree that one is a sin and the other is not. They are wrong.

Who eats pork anyway? Its disgusting.

Most of the Christians I know. With the exception of Messianic Jews and Seventh Day Adventists

[The Soviet Technocracy]

A thirst without the space... I don't know if I should quote scripture because I don't know if it applies to Chirstians and what they should think of things but I'll give it a try...
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
These words might give you some guidance Gaga and help you to understand why others think you to be a misguided or even false Christian.

But it's not gay if your balls don't touch. D:

Oh, so you have to STRETCH to see the lie? I mean, if you squint real hard and interpret it with confirmation bias, it could be lie, even though it's only slightly innacurate!

Where is this verse?

And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the
other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and
a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

Except um...bro...those numbers actually do add up to 3.14.