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Gagatron
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Postby Gagatron » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:59 pm

Indeos wrote:
Gagatron wrote:
I wouldn't ask for any more help, you;ve already been so kind.

It's nice to meet someone the same age as me. :)


I don't mind giving help at all. Glad I could be some. If it makes any difference, I'm offering to help more, so you wouldn't be imposing on me by accepting.

Well, would you recommend jelling my hair?
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
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Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:59 pm

*Snorts at the page number*
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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

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# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.
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Postby Gagatron » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:01 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:*Snorts at the page number*

You missed the gay pic! :(
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:01 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:*Snorts at the page number*

You missed the gay pic! :(

No, no, I saw it. Both the lesbian one, and the gay one. Very, very good pics.
Hi! I'm Khan, your local misanthropic Indian.
I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
P2TM RP Discussion Thread
If you want a good rp, read this shit.
Tiami is cool.
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.
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Postby Indeos » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:03 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Indeos wrote:
I don't mind giving help at all. Glad I could be some. If it makes any difference, I'm offering to help more, so you wouldn't be imposing on me by accepting.

Well, would you recommend jelling my hair?

Without seeing it, I can't say either way.
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Postby Gagatron » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:03 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Gagatron wrote:You missed the gay pic! :(

No, no, I saw it. Both the lesbian one, and the gay one. Very, very good pics.

The lesbian one? Not so much. The gay one? Oui, oui.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.
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Postby Gagatron » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:10 pm

Well, it has become very quiet in here.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.
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Postby Indeos » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:12 pm

Gagatron wrote:Well, it has become very quiet in here.


I'm still in here, until I pass out at the keyboard.
Come listen to my mate at http://stressfactor.co.uk/new2007/home.html every Thursday, 5-6pm EST!
Or http://kraftyradio.com/ every Sunday, 6-7pm EST!
Or check out his SoundCloud(Free Music DL): http://soundcloud.com/sergeant-sheep
And for some cool art and electronics' skins(different friend): http://thesk.in/
‎"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster, and if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
Dear Jenrak - Give cancer the banhammer!
Serious Name: The Imperial Fiefdoms of Indeos
NSG: Proud Honorary Son of the Sea Queen Of Connaught
Long Live The Community! Long Live Max!
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Postby Gagatron » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:14 pm

Indeos wrote:
Gagatron wrote:Well, it has become very quiet in here.


I'm still in here, until I pass out at the keyboard.


I have to go to bed soon, church tomorrow...
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.
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Postby Indeos » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:15 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Indeos wrote:
I'm still in here, until I pass out at the keyboard.


I have to go to bed soon, church tomorrow...


I should go to bed soon, but won't. More important things to do.
Come listen to my mate at http://stressfactor.co.uk/new2007/home.html every Thursday, 5-6pm EST!
Or http://kraftyradio.com/ every Sunday, 6-7pm EST!
Or check out his SoundCloud(Free Music DL): http://soundcloud.com/sergeant-sheep
And for some cool art and electronics' skins(different friend): http://thesk.in/
‎"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster, and if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
Dear Jenrak - Give cancer the banhammer!
Serious Name: The Imperial Fiefdoms of Indeos
NSG: Proud Honorary Son of the Sea Queen Of Connaught
Long Live The Community! Long Live Max!
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:15 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Indeos wrote:
I'm still in here, until I pass out at the keyboard.


I have to go to bed soon, church tomorrow...

I have to stay up late, five minute puja tomorrow at whenever I want. 8)
Hi! I'm Khan, your local misanthropic Indian.
I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
P2TM RP Discussion Thread
If you want a good rp, read this shit.
Tiami is cool.
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:15 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Indeos wrote:
I'm still in here, until I pass out at the keyboard.


I have to go to bed soon, church tomorrow...

Another great part about not being religious.

I get to sleep in Sunday.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Gagatron » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:19 pm

Galloism wrote:
Gagatron wrote:
I have to go to bed soon, church tomorrow...

Another great part about not being religious.

I get to sleep in Sunday.

Big deal. I get to PRAISE THA LORDAH.
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God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:21 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Galloism wrote:Another great part about not being religious.

I get to sleep in Sunday.

Big deal. I get PRAISE THA LORDAH.


I GET TO WATCH FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST!

I win.

Call me back in ninety years when I'm dead. If I'm in Hell, you have bragging rights.
Hi! I'm Khan, your local misanthropic Indian.
I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
P2TM RP Discussion Thread
If you want a good rp, read this shit.
Tiami is cool.
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.
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Postby Indeos » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:21 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Galloism wrote:Another great part about not being religious.

I get to sleep in Sunday.

Big deal. I get to PRAISE THA LORDAH.


I don't think He ever required that, actually. To quote someone, "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to McDonald's makes you a hamburger".
Come listen to my mate at http://stressfactor.co.uk/new2007/home.html every Thursday, 5-6pm EST!
Or http://kraftyradio.com/ every Sunday, 6-7pm EST!
Or check out his SoundCloud(Free Music DL): http://soundcloud.com/sergeant-sheep
And for some cool art and electronics' skins(different friend): http://thesk.in/
‎"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster, and if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
Dear Jenrak - Give cancer the banhammer!
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:22 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Gagatron wrote:Big deal. I get PRAISE THA LORDAH.


I GET TO WATCH FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST!

I win.

Call me back in ninety years when I'm dead. If I'm in Hell, you have bragging rights.

Well, fortunately, the Bible doesn't teach about a fiery hell, but a state of nonexistence after death (unless one is righteous and resurrected).

So, fortunately, if Gagatron (and the rest of Christianity at large) is right that the Bible is the word of God, neither one of us will be alive to hear the gloating.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:23 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Gagatron wrote:Big deal. I get PRAISE THA LORDAH.


I GET TO WATCH FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST!

I win.

Call me back in ninety years when I'm dead. If I'm in Hell, you have bragging rights.

If your in Hell, then so am I. We'll be watching FMA with teh devil at teh seventh level.

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Postby Gagatron » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:25 pm

Indeos wrote:
Gagatron wrote:Big deal. I get to PRAISE THA LORDAH.


I don't think He ever required that, actually. To quote someone, "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to McDonald's makes you a hamburger".

On the contrary, praise seems to follow the Lord wherever He goes.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.
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Postby Hegstoria » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:26 pm

Volnotova wrote:Christians can be gay, you cannot however be gay and be an adherend to the cancerous metastases(read:imposters) known as catholicism and et cetera.

Not flame baiting at all. :roll:
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Postby Indeos » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:27 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Indeos wrote:
I don't think He ever required that, actually. To quote someone, "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to McDonald's makes you a hamburger".

On the contrary, praise seems to follow the Lord wherever He goes.


Uh...in what way does that address what I said?
Come listen to my mate at http://stressfactor.co.uk/new2007/home.html every Thursday, 5-6pm EST!
Or http://kraftyradio.com/ every Sunday, 6-7pm EST!
Or check out his SoundCloud(Free Music DL): http://soundcloud.com/sergeant-sheep
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Postby Gagatron » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:28 pm

Indeos wrote:
Gagatron wrote:On the contrary, praise seems to follow the Lord wherever He goes.


Uh...in what way does that address what I said?

It looked like you were saying the Lord doesn't require praise.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.
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Postby Feral Land » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:32 pm

Gagatron wrote:Hello, everyone. My name is Gagatron. I am a bisexual male. I am also Christian. Nice to meet you!

I started this thread to dispel some rumors. No, I'm not a girl. No I don't hate gays. And no, we Christians don't think sex is bad. :roll:

Anyone who has paid attention to Jesus' teaching knows that even the prostitutes are accepted into God's kingdom. Anyone who has read Song of Solomon knows that there's nothing wrong with songs about sex. And now, anyone who's met me can know that there is such a thing as an open minded Christian.

So, let the discussion begin. Do you know any gay Christians? What do you think of them?

NOH8, plz.


Don't get me wrong, some of my best friends are Christians and a few are gay.

A rare and puzzling breed...I tend to think of gay christians in the same light I see gay republicans -- a contradiction in terms or at best a nice idea but get real...

Of course my attitude is colored by the fact that I don't really hear gay tolerant Christians standing up to the anti-gay Christians all the time...kinda like Muslims not saying or doing very much about radical Islam.
Sighing, he steps off his soap box and takes his daily dose of zoloft to begin a new another day...
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:33 pm

Hegstoria wrote:
Volnotova wrote:Christians can be gay, you cannot however be gay and be an adherend to the cancerous metastases(read:imposters) known as catholicism and et cetera.

Not flame baiting at all. :roll:

He could completely see catholicism as evil and cancerous. Its no worse than when the minority of racists declare blacks to be cancerous, or the minority of intolerant Christians declare homosexuals to be evil and sinful.

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Postby Ravenvalles » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:34 pm

Rivaro wrote:
Ravenvalles wrote:No, but often those who preach redemption have decriminalized some sins.


... and they are obviously wrong

As I kind of stated earlier tongue in cheek.to many Christians, It is not a sin to eat pork, but it is a sin to eat pork (the other kind). That is picking and choosing. Either the laws of Moses are dead and the laws of Christ are in effect, or they are not. The Baptist church mentioned earlier, whom I think follow a distorted and evil perversion of Christianity, would agree that one is a sin and the other is not. They are wrong.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:35 pm

Ravenvalles wrote:
Rivaro wrote:
... and they are obviously wrong

As I kind of stated earlier tongue in cheek.to many Christians, It is not a sin to eat pork, but it is a sin to eat pork (the other kind). That is picking and choosing. Either the laws of Moses are dead and the laws of Christ are in effect, or they are not. The Baptist church mentioned earlier, whom I think follow a distorted and evil perversion of Christianity, would agree that one is a sin and the other is not. They are wrong.

Who eats pork anyway? Its disgusting.

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