School Damage

[Intangelon]

NOW you're talkin'.

Not to away games anymore, some schools don't bring their bands with them because of "Budget cuts".

Yeah. I'd rather save that $ for that longshot of the team making the state playoffs. Taking the band to state three years in a row was amazing.

[Qatarab]

Personally, I'm curious.

Do you feel that they miss out on the social aspect of school? What about things such as clubs, sports teams, etc? Do they still participate in them some how or are they made up for some other way? Not necessary?

Not a whit. The local HS has the orchestra I can't provide for my 'cellist, and the area's children's chorus provides the choir I can't replicate at home. The dancer goes to ballet and tap classes, the singer to ballet and soccer. The younger one's friends from her dance class and soccer team are all in AWANA, so she goes there, too.

We have their friends over, and allow them to stay at their friends' houses when it's possible and appropriate. Just like public school folk. What we DON'T get is the constant peer pressure, clothing pressure, body image nonsense, mind-numbing cultural garbage used as the lingua franca (i.e. using crappy TV show lines as in-jokes, and such). My kids have cell phones and the older one is fixin' to start driving soon.

What could they possibly be missing out on that's a potential positive?

Homeschooling does have its great advantages. Its good that you chose to do so with your kids. I'd preferably prefer to be homeschooled but it would require hiring a teacher plus im almost out of highschool anyhow. Two more years.....

[Intangelon]

Such as?

(I homeschool my two daughters, fair warning.)

From what i've heard they can't really get those extra-curricular activities students that attend a school get. Plus i think there was something about applying for college and homeschooling but not being a teacher or homeschooled i think i should leave this question up to the pros(such as you )

Well, I answered the social aspect in a different post, but we work with a state-certified school counselor to make sure we're on-track for scholarship and college eligibility. My older child is in the community college's Running Start program, getting her diploma at the same time she'll receive her AA. So college isn't an issue, either. You just have to be on top of which forms to submit where and when. No biggie.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Personally, I'm curious.

Do you feel that they miss out on the social aspect of school? What about things such as clubs, sports teams, etc? Do they still participate in them some how or are they made up for some other way? Not necessary?

Not a whit. The local HS has the orchestra I can't provide for my 'cellist, and the area's children's chorus provides the choir I can't replicate at home. The dancer goes to ballet and tap classes, the singer to ballet and soccer. The younger one's friends from her dance class and soccer team are all in AWANA, so she goes there, too.

We have their friends over, and allow them to stay at their friends' houses when it's possible and appropriate. Just like public school folk. What we DON'T get is the constant peer pressure, clothing pressure, body image nonsense, mind-numbing cultural garbage used as the lingua franca (i.e. using crappy TV show lines as in-jokes, and such). My kids have cell phones and the older one is fixin' to start driving soon.

Sounds nice.

What could they possibly be missing out on that's a potential positive?

I dunno, just asking.

[Intangelon]

Or, in other words, your work here is done, amirite?

Well you did just go on a massive spree of posting, unfortunately none of it is really that relevant to the topic, although it has its moments. I must say I am offended that you chose to discredit everything* based on the notion that im just a kid going through a phase.

Massive spree? Compared to you, mate, I'm a gnat. Just because I went through the thread and replied to each of your screeds individually doesn't somehow make me either off topic or in excess of any reasonable number of posts.

I must say I'm offended that you've only chosen to reply to the posts which are lighter and tangential, leaving the meatier bits to hopefully sit in your subconscious and do a little work.

I do believe you're going through a phase. You'll probably retain much of your point of view, but you'll hopefully learn not to express it like some kind of wounded Hot Topic shopper who's just read some Marx or Chomsky.

Could be worse. It could have been Ayn Rand or Milton Friedman. As annoying young converts go, you're pretty tolerable.

[The Lone Alliance]

What his work to be a worthless insane troll that should be banned from NationStates if not the "Society" that he hates so much?

If so I completely agree.

I think thats pretty innapropriate. I personally don't want anybody to be banished from society based on their beliefs.

No I want you to remove yourself.

[Intangelon]

Not a whit. The local HS has the orchestra I can't provide for my 'cellist, and the area's children's chorus provides the choir I can't replicate at home. The dancer goes to ballet and tap classes, the singer to ballet and soccer. The younger one's friends from her dance class and soccer team are all in AWANA, so she goes there, too.

We have their friends over, and allow them to stay at their friends' houses when it's possible and appropriate. Just like public school folk. What we DON'T get is the constant peer pressure, clothing pressure, body image nonsense, mind-numbing cultural garbage used as the lingua franca (i.e. using crappy TV show lines as in-jokes, and such). My kids have cell phones and the older one is fixin' to start driving soon.

What could they possibly be missing out on that's a potential positive?

Homeschooling does have its great advantages. Its good that you chose to do so with your kids. I'd preferably prefer to be homeschooled but it would require hiring a teacher plus im almost out of highschool anyhow. Two more years.....

Look for the Running Start program in your district paired with a local college. It's a good way to accelerate if that's what you want.

[Intangelon]

Not a whit. The local HS has the orchestra I can't provide for my 'cellist, and the area's children's chorus provides the choir I can't replicate at home. The dancer goes to ballet and tap classes, the singer to ballet and soccer. The younger one's friends from her dance class and soccer team are all in AWANA, so she goes there, too.

We have their friends over, and allow them to stay at their friends' houses when it's possible and appropriate. Just like public school folk. What we DON'T get is the constant peer pressure, clothing pressure, body image nonsense, mind-numbing cultural garbage used as the lingua franca (i.e. using crappy TV show lines as in-jokes, and such). My kids have cell phones and the older one is fixin' to start driving soon.

Sounds nice.

What could they possibly be missing out on that's a potential positive?

I dunno, just asking.

No worries. I get a lot of that. I just point to her first college transcript, which, started at age 15, reads 3.6 and president's honor roll. *proud papa beams*

[Buffett and Colbert]

Sounds nice.

I dunno, just asking.

No worries. I get a lot of that. I just point to her first college transcript, which, started at age 15, reads 3.6 and president's honor roll. *proud papa beams*

Obviously that's worked for you guys quite well.

[Intangelon]

No worries. I get a lot of that. I just point to her first college transcript, which, started at age 15, reads 3.6 and president's honor roll. *proud papa beams*

Obviously that's worked for you guys quite well.

We were lucky to have the time, the desire and the patience. I will confess it's worked better for our first child than it is for our second, who's more socially attuned. We're considering a private school in order to continue the academic rigor while affording her the gaggle she craves without the vast majority of the subject matter we don't. It's a tough balance.

[Bendira]

Well you did just go on a massive spree of posting, unfortunately none of it is really that relevant to the topic, although it has its moments. I must say I am offended that you chose to discredit everything* based on the notion that im just a kid going through a phase.

Massive spree? Compared to you, mate, I'm a gnat. Just because I went through the thread and replied to each of your screeds individually doesn't somehow make me either off topic or in excess of any reasonable number of posts.

I must say I'm offended that you've only chosen to reply to the posts which are lighter and tangential, leaving the meatier bits to hopefully sit in your subconscious and do a little work.

I do believe you're going through a phase. You'll probably retain much of your point of view, but you'll hopefully learn not to express it like some kind of wounded Hot Topic shopper who's just read some Marx or Chomsky.

Could be worse. It could have been Ayn Rand or Milton Friedman. As annoying young converts go, you're pretty tolerable.

Im actually 6 tabling in poker right now, thats why I haven't takent he time to respond.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Obviously that's worked for you guys quite well.

We were lucky to have the time, the desire and the patience. I will confess it's worked better for our first child than it is for our second, who's more socially attuned. We're considering a private school in order to continue the academic rigor while affording her the gaggle she craves without the vast majority of the subject matter we don't. It's a tough balance.

What do you mean by subject matter? Because I don't know the specifics of where you live, but in terms of the banter in the hallways, etc, there's no difference between public and private schools.

[The Lone Alliance]

No worries. I get a lot of that. I just point to her first college transcript, which, started at age 15, reads 3.6 and president's honor roll. *proud papa beams*

Obviously that's worked for you guys quite well.

Good for them, I'm divided on homeschooling, while I'm glad about how it gives PERSONALIZED lessons for the "students" (Something that the good teachers would dream of doing) I don't like it when it's used by religious nuts to indoctrinate their children into being useless slaves of their parents.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Obviously that's worked for you guys quite well.

Good for them, I'm divided on homeschooling, while I'm glad about how it gives PERSONALIZED lessons for the "students" (Something that the good teachers would dream of doing) I don't like it when it's used by religious nuts to indoctrinate their children into being useless slaves of their parents.

And I don't like it when apples are used for murder. *shrug*

[United Dependencies]

Personally, I'm curious.

Do you feel that they miss out on the social aspect of school? What about things such as clubs, sports teams, etc? Do they still participate in them some how or are they made up for some other way? Not necessary?

Not a whit. The local HS has the orchestra I can't provide for my 'cellist, and the area's children's chorus provides the choir I can't replicate at home. The dancer goes to ballet and tap classes, the singer to ballet and soccer. The younger one's friends from her dance class and soccer team are all in AWANA, so she goes there, too.

We have their friends over, and allow them to stay at their friends' houses when it's possible and appropriate. Just like public school folk. What we DON'T get is the constant peer pressure, clothing pressure, body image nonsense, mind-numbing cultural garbage used as the lingua franca (i.e. using crappy TV show lines as in-jokes, and such). My kids have cell phones and the older one is fixin' to start driving soon.

What could they possibly be missing out on that's a potential positive?

Home sporting events, crazy teachers who everyone loves to complain about, batting down intellectually inferior classmates and then feeling smug about it. etc.

[Australien]

Obviously that's worked for you guys quite well.

We were lucky to have the time, the desire and the patience. I will confess it's worked better for our first child than it is for our second, who's more socially attuned. We're considering a private school in order to continue the academic rigor while affording her the gaggle she craves without the vast majority of the subject matter we don't. It's a tough balance.

I usually oppose home schooling, but that's usually to do more with the parents than the concept itself. You sound like you're doing it 'right'.

But I do hope you're not shielding her from certain things unnecessarily as many of the more protective parents are prone to do.

[Dyakovo]

who says we are not allowed free speech in the class room

Bendy... According to him, if you can't say whatever you want, whenever you want its not free speech.

[The Corparation]

NOW you're talkin'.

Not to away games anymore, some schools don't bring their bands with them because of "Budget cuts".

Ours does.

Not a whit. The local HS has the orchestra I can't provide for my 'cellist, and the area's children's chorus provides the choir I can't replicate at home. The dancer goes to ballet and tap classes, the singer to ballet and soccer. The younger one's friends from her dance class and soccer team are all in AWANA, so she goes there, too.

We have their friends over, and allow them to stay at their friends' houses when it's possible and appropriate. Just like public school folk. What we DON'T get is the constant peer pressure, clothing pressure, body image nonsense, mind-numbing cultural garbage used as the lingua franca (i.e. using crappy TV show lines as in-jokes, and such). My kids have cell phones and the older one is fixin' to start driving soon.

What could they possibly be missing out on that's a potential positive?

Home sporting events, crazy teachers who everyone loves to complain about, batting down intellectually inferior classmates and then feeling smug about it. etc.

Don't forget about crazy teachers that everyone loves and give life changing advice and lessons. While randomly showing up in traditional Indian clothing, or speaking in japanese.

[Prutais]

i think they will shut this down soon

Can we just ask for it to be taken down now? Seems to me to be intentionally offensive and rapidly declining to the "Your mom!" state.

[Intangelon]

Massive spree? Compared to you, mate, I'm a gnat. Just because I went through the thread and replied to each of your screeds individually doesn't somehow make me either off topic or in excess of any reasonable number of posts.

I must say I'm offended that you've only chosen to reply to the posts which are lighter and tangential, leaving the meatier bits to hopefully sit in your subconscious and do a little work.

I do believe you're going through a phase. You'll probably retain much of your point of view, but you'll hopefully learn not to express it like some kind of wounded Hot Topic shopper who's just read some Marx or Chomsky.

Could be worse. It could have been Ayn Rand or Milton Friedman. As annoying young converts go, you're pretty tolerable.

Im actually 6 tabling in poker right now, thats why I haven't takent he time to respond.

Sure.

So that's also why you're choosing the posts that don't pin you down to reply to as well.

Sure.

[Intangelon]

We were lucky to have the time, the desire and the patience. I will confess it's worked better for our first child than it is for our second, who's more socially attuned. We're considering a private school in order to continue the academic rigor while affording her the gaggle she craves without the vast majority of the subject matter we don't. It's a tough balance.

What do you mean by subject matter? Because I don't know the specifics of where you live, but in terms of the banter in the hallways, etc, there's no difference between public and private schools.

Sure there is. One hell of a lot less swearing for the sake of swearing, nobody calling anyone else "bitch" or "ho", etc.

[Intangelon]

Obviously that's worked for you guys quite well.

Good for them, I'm divided on homeschooling, while I'm glad about how it gives PERSONALIZED lessons for the "students" (Something that the good teachers would dream of doing) I don't like it when it's used by religious nuts to indoctrinate their children into being useless slaves of their parents.

No problem here. I'm much more of a secular nut.

That said, I like the Classical curriculum (trivium/quadrivium) along with an appreciation and study of the Bible, because you've got a whelk's chance in a supernova of truly digging Western Civilization without knowing the Bible.

[Intangelon]

We were lucky to have the time, the desire and the patience. I will confess it's worked better for our first child than it is for our second, who's more socially attuned. We're considering a private school in order to continue the academic rigor while affording her the gaggle she craves without the vast majority of the subject matter we don't. It's a tough balance.

I usually oppose home schooling, but that's usually to do more with the parents than the concept itself. You sound like you're doing it 'right'.

But I do hope you're not shielding her from certain things unnecessarily as many of the more protective parents are prone to do.

Hell no. She's seen everything from live birth (her sister's) to where meat REALLY comes from. Y'know, the stuff public schools are scared shitless to tell the truth about for fear of lawsuits and mass bad publicity.

[Intangelon]

Not a whit. The local HS has the orchestra I can't provide for my 'cellist, and the area's children's chorus provides the choir I can't replicate at home. The dancer goes to ballet and tap classes, the singer to ballet and soccer. The younger one's friends from her dance class and soccer team are all in AWANA, so she goes there, too.

We have their friends over, and allow them to stay at their friends' houses when it's possible and appropriate. Just like public school folk. What we DON'T get is the constant peer pressure, clothing pressure, body image nonsense, mind-numbing cultural garbage used as the lingua franca (i.e. using crappy TV show lines as in-jokes, and such). My kids have cell phones and the older one is fixin' to start driving soon.

What could they possibly be missing out on that's a potential positive?

Home sporting events, crazy teachers who everyone loves to complain about, batting down intellectually inferior classmates and then feeling smug about it. etc.

We attend WHL hockey games, minor league baseball and we've got Gonzaga just down the road (not very good this season, but hey). I am the teacher my kids love to complain about (bad cop to Mom's good cop), and if they can take the occasional withering glare from me, they've got all the education in batting down they'll ever need.

Next?

[Norstal]

What his work to be a worthless insane troll that should be banned from NationStates if not the "Society" that he hates so much?

If so I completely agree.

I think thats pretty innapropriate. I personally don't want anybody to be banished from society based on their beliefs.

No, but you want people to die under this Natural Law you mentioned in "Cops are stupid" thread about 1-2 months ago.

Which is hardly an improvement.