Should Nazi Germany be revived?

[Emmeria Kingdom]

Then tell me why China (exception of Hong Kong), Vietnam (possible), and North Korea are under communism rule. I doesnt matter about communism if they are pure. Communism is communism

[Person012345]

Difference between Nazi Germany and Soviet union:
The USSR killed people for a reason (even if it was a bullshit reason such as "are traitors") or apparently accidentally (famine etc). Nazi Germany killed people deliberately and for no reason (or rather, a reason that could not be helped at all by the accused, they killed them deliberately simply for being). Or that's how it's seen. Russian deaths were as a result of ebil communism being inefficient and crazy, whereas german deaths were a product of hateful nazi malice.

I guess.

[Person012345]

Then tell me why China (exception of Hong Kong), Vietnam (possible), and North Korea are under communism rule. I doesnt matter about communism if they are pure. Communism is communism

none of those are communist. Nice try though.

[Freisharf]

Then tell me why China (exception of Hong Kong), Vietnam (possible), and North Korea are under communism rule. I doesnt matter about communism if they are pure. Communism is communism

No, state capitalism is not communism

[Shofercia]

Difference between Nazi Germany and Soviet union:
The USSR killed people for a reason (even if it was a bullshit reason such as "are traitors") or apparently accidentally (famine etc). Nazi Germany killed people deliberately and for no reason (or rather, a reason that could not be helped at all by the accused, they killed them deliberately simply for being). Or that's how it's seen. Russian deaths were as a result of ebil communism being inefficient and crazy, whereas german deaths were a product of hateful nazi malice.

I guess.

That, and USSR didn't start a World War, something most people tend to forget.

[Mike the Progressive]

Then tell me why China (exception of Hong Kong), Vietnam (possible), and North Korea are under communism rule. I doesnt matter about communism if they are pure. Communism is communism

It's not really that simple. China and Vietnam have adopted free-market policies. North Korea is trying too, but it's kind of like watching a retarded child run into the wall because he just watched Bob Wilton do it. The point is communism isn't communism, because communism has never really existed.

[Iridis]

Difference between Nazi Germany and Soviet union:
The USSR killed people for a reason (even if it was a bullshit reason such as "are traitors") or apparently accidentally (famine etc). Nazi Germany killed people deliberately and for no reason (or rather, a reason that could not be helped at all by the accused, they killed them deliberately simply for being). Or that's how it's seen. Russian deaths were as a result of ebil communism being inefficient and crazy, whereas german deaths were a product of hateful nazi malice.

I guess.

Well the offical reason was thats Jews were traitors for stabbing the Empire in the back, not to mention undesirables who were hording wealth and power to themselves at the expense of normal Germans. Not unlike the Soviet purges of counter revolutionaries and 'Kulaks'... owait-

[Great Altai]

Then tell me why China (exception of Hong Kong), Vietnam (possible), and North Korea are under communism rule. I doesnt matter about communism if they are pure. Communism is communism

None of those countries are "communist". They're dictatorships in Red drag. Both China and Vietnam have mixed economies that are becoming more capitalist by the day. North Korea is a bizarre absolute monarchy with a badly peeling communist paint job.

[Person012345]

Difference between Nazi Germany and Soviet union:
The USSR killed people for a reason (even if it was a bullshit reason such as "are traitors") or apparently accidentally (famine etc). Nazi Germany killed people deliberately and for no reason (or rather, a reason that could not be helped at all by the accused, they killed them deliberately simply for being). Or that's how it's seen. Russian deaths were as a result of ebil communism being inefficient and crazy, whereas german deaths were a product of hateful nazi malice.

I guess.

That, and USSR didn't start a World War, something most people tend to forget.

To a degree yes. Russia kept their shit to themselves. Germany started making their shit everybody else's shit. I doubt nazi germany would have fallenquite like it did (it may have become subject to internal unrest at some point, but not as quickly) had it just kept to itself. People wouldn't have invaded it just for exterminating it's own jews etc.

[Emmeria Kingdom]

@Mike I understand about free-market. My friend once told me that Hong Kong is a Free-marketing city in China. But I didnt know free-marketing is roaming around Vietnam since I heard that South Vietnam fell during the war

[Iridis]

Then tell me why China (exception of Hong Kong), Vietnam (possible), and North Korea are under communism rule. I doesnt matter about communism if they are pure. Communism is communism

None of those countries are "communist". They're dictatorships in Red drag. Both China and Vietnam have mixed economies that are becoming more capitalist by the day. North Korea is a bizarre absolute monarchy with a badly peeling communist paint job.

You seem to realise that communism in most palces is not as advertised.
You seem like a somewhat rational person.

Why do you have this idea that it can work when you have no evidence fo the fact? When all attempts have failed?

[Person012345]

Well the offical reason was thats Jews were traitors for stabbing the Empire in the back, not to mention undesirables who were hording wealth and power to themselves at the expense of normal Germans. Not unlike the Soviet purges of counter revolutionaries and 'Kulaks'... owait-

Well, it's a fine argument until you start exterminating children and poor jews. Then you're obviously just killing jews for being jews. At least with the counter revolutionary charges etc. you are at least making accusations that are plausible when you aren't necessarily targetting an ethnic group and are killing mostly adults etc. (I believe they did that - though most of the deaths came through famine which was not targeted, but falls under the category of apparently accidental).

[Great Altai]

None of those countries are "communist". They're dictatorships in Red drag. Both China and Vietnam have mixed economies that are becoming more capitalist by the day. North Korea is a bizarre absolute monarchy with a badly peeling communist paint job.

You seem to realise that communism in most palces is not as advertised.
You seem like a somewhat rational person. Why do you have this idea that it can work when you have no evidence fo the fact? When all attempts have failed?

When have I ever said communism can "work"?

If you go back and read over my posts in this thread, I clearly state my opposition to all forms of Empire and tyranny. This includes the Soviet Union, which I believe I mentioned in particular:

I think the fact that the Nazis were explicitly racist and that their mass murder was so highly systematized makes them much more unpopular. The Soviet Union's racist policies under Stalin and co. were somewhat more discreet and inefficient, so they are often given a pass.

I'm not personally in favor of reviving either of them. I'd also like to see an end to the American Empire. I'm against empires in general.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

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[Emmeria Kingdom]

North Korea is not a monarchy. Its a dictatorship nation. I never heard the word king when the Two Koreans met once before and definity before the incidient that may go to war against Korea. AGAIN

[Meryuma]

Then tell me why China (exception of Hong Kong), Vietnam (possible), and North Korea are under communism rule. I doesnt matter about communism if they are pure. Communism is communism

Communism is a system with communal ownership of the means of production, no private property, and no classes. None of the countries you mention have that.

[Mike the Progressive]

North Korea is not a monarchy. Its a dictatorship nation. I never heard the word king when the Two Koreans met once before and definity before the incidient that may go to war against Korea. AGAIN

what?

[Freisharf]

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I'll be sure to think long and hard about every post I make from now on your majesty.

[Emmeria Kingdom]

Someone said that North Korea was a bizzare monarchy

[Zukariaa]

North Korea is not a monarchy. Its a dictatorship nation. I never heard the word king when the Two Koreans met once before and definity before the incidient that may go to war against Korea. AGAIN

They're moving onto the third generation of complete control of the state by a single family. That is literally what monarchy is.

[Iridis]

You seem to realise that communism in most palces is not as advertised.
You seem like a somewhat rational person. Why do you have this idea that it can work when you have no evidence fo the fact? When all attempts have failed?

When have I ever said communism can "work"?

If you go back and read over my posts in this thread, I clearly state my opposition to all forms of Empire and tyranny. This includes the Soviet Union, which I believe I mentioned in particular.

Sorry i have trouble reading through hundreds of posts, I confuse some illogical arguements with others. My fault.

Ahem..

If you opposoe all forms of tyranny, why do you differntiate between them despite the obvious similarities?

[Zutroy]

Someone said that North Korea was a bizzare monarchy

It was figuratively speaking. You take what a country titles itself too literally.

*** Final Warning before DOS status *** There won't be another, since you've worked so very very hard for it.

I'll be sure to think long and hard about every post I make from now on your majesty.

That's a shame because you were making me crack up laughing before.

[Emmeria Kingdom]

That can also be a president. Monarchy states that a family of royal blood is allow to be a monarchy. This means that the family based off the Three Kingdoms of Korea once roam the lands of the North and South is allow to turn such country as North Korea into a monarchy

[Great Altai]

North Korea is not a monarchy. Its a dictatorship nation. I never heard the word king when the Two Koreans met once before and definity before the incidient that may go to war against Korea. AGAIN

As I said, it has a very poor communist paint job.

First of all, the categories of "dictatorship" and "monarchy" are not mutually exclusive. Secondly, what else would you all a country that is essentially ruled by one person with hereditary succession?

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it doesn't matter what you call it. If you can't see that I really don't know what else to say to you.

[Iridis]

Well the offical reason was thats Jews were traitors for stabbing the Empire in the back, not to mention undesirables who were hording wealth and power to themselves at the expense of normal Germans. Not unlike the Soviet purges of counter revolutionaries and 'Kulaks'... owait-

Well, it's a fine argument until you start exterminating children and poor jews. Then you're obviously just killing jews for being jews. At least with the counter revolutionary charges etc. you are at least making accusations that are plausible when you aren't necessarily targetting an ethnic group and are killing mostly adults etc. (I believe they did that - though most of the deaths came through famine which was not targeted, but falls under the category of apparently accidental).

Well i'm sure the Soviets didn't send whole families to die in Siberian work camps. Im sure that petty town rivalries didn't cause some people to be denounced for no reason..

Really im totally sure none of that happened.