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by Chyeknovostan Republic » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:02 pm
by Genivar » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:03 pm
Chyeknovostan Republic wrote:if possible to practice correctly then socialism or communism, money ruins the world
by Forster Keys » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:05 pm
by Mike the Progressive » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:05 pm
Genivar wrote:Capitalism without government intervention will inevitably become Corporatism.
by Servantium » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:05 pm
Genivar wrote:Capitalism without government intervention will inevitably become Corporatism.
by Forster Keys » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:10 pm
Chyeknovostan Republic wrote:if possible to practice correctly then socialism or communism, money ruins the world
by Genivar » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:21 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:Genivar wrote:Capitalism without government intervention will inevitably become Corporatism.
Actually, capitalism with government intervention is corporatism. Just rather than being pro-labor, you have the state being pro-corporate (subsidies, banning unions, etc.).
Then again, from the other comments I've read, which you made, your a liberal blinded by idealism, who only understands what he favors and tends to ignore anything that may conflict with his views.
by Occupied Deutschland » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:31 pm
Genivar wrote:Capitalism without government intervention will inevitably become Corporatism.
by Concordeia » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:36 pm
Falkasia wrote:Concordeia wrote:Dammit, and I got accused of tech-wanking for using megawatt-scale free electron laser CIWS on my (nuclear powered) vessels to block missile spam! And I'm freakin early PMT! :mad: :(
I gotta say it. First time I read through this, I could have sworn it said something like this:Dammit, and I got accused of tech-wanking for using megawatt-scale free electron laser CIWS on my (nuclear powered) vessels to block spam missiles!
I was like, "Who the hell are you fighting... or more importantly, was your lunch meat laced?"
by FREEaquaticdancelesson » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:46 pm
by Servantium » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:54 pm
while still maintaining social programs and partial public ownership in critical industries (emergency services, health care, utilities, transportation, telecommunications, etc.)?
by Science-Oriented Scots » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:58 pm
Servantium wrote:Concordeia wrote:And what about government intervention aimed at keeping corporate monopolies/oligopolies from forming and encouraging competition
Not necessary since government intervention is what causes monopolies in the first place.
by Servantium » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:06 pm
I'm also talking about how corporations like walmart destroy small family businesses and shift economic power to the few.
If there is no socialism in a society to keep monopolies from happening, we loose freedom
[/quote]and I for one am a fanatic for freedom.
by New Manvir » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:09 pm
Servantium wrote:Concordeia wrote:And what about government intervention aimed at keeping corporate monopolies/oligopolies from forming and encouraging competition
Not necessary since government intervention is what causes monopolies in the first place.
by The Sentenial Empire » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:14 pm
by Servantium » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:14 pm
New Manvir wrote:Servantium wrote:Not necessary since government intervention is what causes monopolies in the first place.
Utterly Shocking! Adherent of the Austrian School of Economics supports the Austrian School of Economics. Who would have guessed.
by Science-Oriented Scots » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:17 pm
by New Manvir » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:18 pm
by Frenequesta » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:22 pm
by Maurepas » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:17 am
Servantium wrote:Concordeia wrote:And what about government intervention aimed at keeping corporate monopolies/oligopolies from forming and encouraging competition
Not necessary since government intervention is what causes monopolies in the first place.
by Mike the Progressive » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:18 am
Frenequesta wrote:I personally don't give a care for this silly notion called "prosperity" that capitalists tote.
by Servantium » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:11 pm
Maurepas wrote:Servantium wrote:Not necessary since government intervention is what causes monopolies in the first place.
I don't think that says what you think it says. Now, it is bitching about public utilities being public under the mistaken belief that they can be successfully privatized,
But it says nothing about the creation of Monopolies by private industries and companies,
and in no way supports the belief that corporatism and monopoly stems from government intervention into the economy, rather than the opposite.
by Sibirsky » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:30 pm
Rolling squid wrote:If we could keep capitalism from turning into corporatism, it would be great. Since we can't, we're better off using either socalism or a mixed market economy with centralized election funding and heavy restrictions on lobbying.
by Sibirsky » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:39 pm
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