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Postby The South Islands » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:08 pm

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The South Islands wrote:Mounted on the Lunar Module. Armstrong pulled a ring before crawling down the ladder to deploy it to capture the moment.


The module wasn't at big was it?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/LEM-linedrawing.png

In this drawing, you can see exactly where it was mounted on the Decent stage. The LM wasn't that big, but certainly big enough for what it needed to do.
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The biggest thing for NASA to accomplish and they treat it like some ordinary mission.


No one thought about it, especially since much better footage was available from subsequent missions.
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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:35 pm

We did go to the moon, however we were not the first one there. The vikings were. *nods*

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Postby The Great Lord Tiger » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:39 pm

Wilgrove wrote:We did go to the moon, however we were not the first one there. The vikings were. *nods*


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Postby Blouman Empire » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:44 pm

Wilgrove wrote:We did go to the moon, however we were not the first one there. The vikings were. *nods*


Actually thanks to Chinese Historians with all their funding from the Chinese government we can now show that the Ancient Chinese were the first to go to the moon, just like they discovered the world before anyone else and invented everything.
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:46 am

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Postby Surpsainia » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:51 am

The Great Lord Tiger wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:We did go to the moon, however we were not the first one there. The vikings were. *nods*


Late.


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Postby UNIverseVERSE » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:18 am

I understand you claim to be playing this as a joke, BE. I recommend, however, that you don't make any claims that can be disproven with a few minutes reference to this site.

Blouman Empire wrote:Except there are no stars.


That's to be expected -- large parts of the photograph are occupied by much brighter objects than stars. If the exposure had been set to show the stars, the Earth and Moon would just be white, washed out discs.

Blouman Empire wrote:Where? If you can't see it you either aren't looking hard enough or don't want to look because then it will prove you wrong. We take into effect the two sources of light and we have shadows going another way not just those from the Earth and the sun.


I've looked across the whole picture. Once one remembers that the reflectiveness of the lunar surface leads to significant differences in brightness because of slopes, no potentially problematic shadows remain.
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Postby Martilia » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:25 am

I'm a Filipino and I agree they did landed there, because if Neil Armstrong and other Astronauts didn't land there, that "fake" going to the moon must have been spitted out after the fall of USSR, since you know, US is competing with USSR in those times, in Space Race.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:49 am

UNIverseVERSE wrote:I understand you claim to be playing this as a joke, BE. I recommend, however, that you don't make any claims that can be disproven with a few minutes reference to this site.


Yeah cheers,a lot to look over I'll get through all of it eventually.

That's to be expected -- large parts of the photograph are occupied by much brighter objects than stars. If the exposure had been set to show the stars, the Earth and Moon would just be white, washed out discs


Yeah that's very true.

I've looked across the whole picture. Once one remembers that the reflectiveness of the lunar surface leads to significant differences in brightness because of slopes, no potentially problematic shadows remain.


Yeah to tell you the truth I can't see them anymore myself, don't know what I was seeing last night. Though I did grab the shadows bit off some website, because I wanted to sound a bit more serious.

Now what's this reflectiveness stuff? Someone was talking about the lack of an atmosphere means that the sunlight will reflect of the moon, but the Earth reflects sunlight too and it has an atmosphere anyway.
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Postby Baycosa » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:45 am

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1) Yes I have and you attempt to prove your statement to me with a photoshopped image of the moon is dishonest. Not to mention that in your photo the moon takes up a larger amount of the photo then the Earth in the other photo

2)Umm yeah I said that we have two sources Sunshine and Earthshine, now we take that into fact then the shadows from these two sources the lights are some of the shadows are heading in the wrong way. As for your haywire bit what a load of bull a shadow is just where the light hasn't reached because an object is deflecting the light around it and so the light doesnt reach there. Why would u have a shadow facing towards a source of light?.

3)Hmm maybe but the other 2 points still hold


1. You cannot photgraph stars when brighter objects how on a camera, the planet outshines the stars. Not witch such an old camera.

2. No there are three sources of light, the sun, the sun reflected on the earth and the sun reflected on the moons surface. When you have two light sources or in this case three, shadows can overlap and go different ways. Like on a studio set with lots of lights, you get shadows everywere.
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Postby Aloha Mars 2 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:53 am

I think its safe to say the blouman is completly and utterly wrong. :)
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:29 am

I have a small commemorative coin made from silver that was on the Apollo 11 I believe...

Is this coin going to blow up when activated? :blink:
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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:08 am

Baycosa wrote:1. You cannot photgraph stars when brighter objects how on a camera, the planet outshines the stars. Not witch such an old camera.

2. No there are three sources of light, the sun, the sun reflected on the earth and the sun reflected on the moons surface. When you have two light sources or in this case three, shadows can overlap and go different ways. Like on a studio set with lots of lights, you get shadows everywere.


Thanks for the info man but we have covered this.

I also came out and said that I was having a laugh pretending to be a serious person who believed the theories.

Aloha Mars 2 wrote:I think its safe to say the blouman is completly and utterly wrong. :)


Is it safe to say you didn't read all of my posts? ;)
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Postby Phenia » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:18 am

Blouman Empire wrote:I also came out and said that I was having a laugh pretending to be a serious person who believed the theories.


There's another word for this. It's called "trolling."

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Postby GetBert » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:22 am

I prefer Moonlighting conspiracy theories - like Cybil Shepherd is a great actress.

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Postby Molested Sock » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:43 pm

Maurepas wrote:Do you think the Moonlanding was fake?

I, personally dont think so, although I have a theory that I think could be plausible...

That we werent quite ready yet in 1969, but, for PR purposes, still needed to get there. So, in response, they faked the first one, and in subsequent landings planted the evidence seen today, and scrapped the fake footage...

Its the only way I could see a fake being possible with the mountain of evidence...Still would have a massive problem of keeping a large conspiracy quiet though...

What do you think? What are your Theories?

The Russians would have known and gone up there and proved America to be liars.
So no, I don't believe it.

One of the interesting strands off of the conspiracy theory is that 3 or so Astronauts were cooked in their shuttle because they did not want to be part of the lie, so they were silenced.
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Postby Molested Sock » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:52 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Ah yes... the whole thing was done at a studio in LA.

Pffft...

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Postby United Dependencies » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:56 pm

what about the aliens on the far side of the moon conspiracy?
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Postby The Requiem of Shadow » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:06 pm

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Postby Blouman Empire » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:32 am

Phenia wrote:There's another word for this. It's called "trolling."


So report me then.

And while you're at it report everyone else who said something wrong and they don't really think is how it happened for trolling too.
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Blouman Empire wrote:
Phenia wrote:There's another word for this. It's called "trolling."


So report me then.

And while you're at it report everyone else who said something wrong and they don't really think is how it happened for trolling too.


I stopped reporting things to the mods a while back as being an utterly useless thing to do. Your behavior was still pretty much the definition of trolling. "Everyone else" (who?) doesn't qualify.

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Phenia wrote:I stopped reporting things to the mods a while back as being an utterly useless thing to do. Your behavior was still pretty much the definition of trolling. "Everyone else" (who?) doesn't qualify.


I disagree. As neither of us are Mods, I've brought it up in the Moderation forum. Now, can we kill the discussion of it here and get back to the actual thread please?
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Postby Phenia » Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:43 am

Molested Sock wrote:The Russians would have known and gone up there and proved America to be liars.
So no, I don't believe it.


I agree with this; if there's anyone with motivation and ability to shoot holes in the US allegedly faked moon landing it would be the USSR.

Of course, the moonbats would just say that it means the USSR and USA were both in on the conspiracy.

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Postby Blouman Empire » Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:53 am

Phenia wrote:I stopped reporting things to the mods a while back as being an utterly useless thing to do.


If you say so.

Your behavior was still pretty much the definition of trolling. "Everyone else" (who?) doesn't qualify.


You can see my post in the thread posted in the Moderation forum to my answer.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:56 am

GetBert wrote:I prefer Moonlighting conspiracy theories - like Cybil Shepherd is a great actress.


Hey it was a decent show, except for the last few seasons.
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