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Postby Zilam » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:42 pm

Saint Clair Island wrote:It's not too far off from some real views, unfortunately. I've heard arguments that separation of church and state means that Christmas should be kept to private homes and businesses (so no christmas decorations or trees in public), and met people who found "Merry Christmas" terribly offensive.


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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:43 pm

Saint Clair Island wrote:
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Ths is bad sarcasm, right? I hope. :(

It's not too far off from some real views, unfortunately. I've heard arguments that separation of church and state means that Christmas should be kept to private homes and businesses (so no christmas decorations or trees in public), and met people who found "Merry Christmas" terribly offensive.


Oh noes, you can't put a manager up in City Hall? Who do these people think they are?! They're acting like the Fist Amendment actually means something! The nerve of those people!

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Postby Coccygia » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:45 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Saint Clair Island wrote:It's not too far off from some real views, unfortunately. I've heard arguments that separation of church and state means that Christmas should be kept to private homes and businesses (so no christmas decorations or trees in public), and met people who found "Merry Christmas" terribly offensive.


Oh noes, you can't put a manager up in City Hall? Who do these people think they are?! They're acting like the Fist Amendment actually means something! The nerve of those people!

Put up a manager? What, like a city manager? Who says?
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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:47 pm

Coccygia wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Oh noes, you can't put a manager up in City Hall? Who do these people think they are?! They're acting like the Fist Amendment actually means something! The nerve of those people!

Put up a manager? What, like a city manager? Who says?


Here's my view on this subject. You can put up generic or secular holiday decorations. But once you start putting up Mary, Jesus, or Hel even Odin, then it's not cool.

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:48 pm

Coccygia wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Oh noes, you can't put a manager up in City Hall? Who do these people think they are?! They're acting like the Fist Amendment actually means something! The nerve of those people!

Put up a manager? What, like a city manager? Who says?

:p I got it, even if Wil didn't.
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Postby Coccygia » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:49 pm

Oops, double-posted again!
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:51 pm

Coccygia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote: :p I got it, even if Wil didn't.

And what's the Fist Amendment? Is that the one that lets the govt. ram its fist up your bum?

No, that's one that allows individual income tax, I think. The Fist Amendment ... I remember Jay Fisk, but that's not ... and that woman Stands With A Fist ... hmm ... I can't recall ...
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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:54 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Coccygia wrote:And what's the Fist Amendment? Is that the one that lets the govt. ram its fist up your bum?

No, that's one that allows individual income tax, I think. The Fist Amendment ... I remember Jay Fisk, but that's not ... and that woman Stands With A Fist ... hmm ... I can't recall ...


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Postby Saint Clair Island » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:57 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Saint Clair Island wrote:It's not too far off from some real views, unfortunately. I've heard arguments that separation of church and state means that Christmas should be kept to private homes and businesses (so no christmas decorations or trees in public), and met people who found "Merry Christmas" terribly offensive.


Oh noes, you can't put a manager up in City Hall? Who do these people think they are?! They're acting like the Fist Amendment actually means something! The nerve of those people!

Well, if the community or its representatives wish to put up a christmas tree in the central square or whatever, that's clearly a flagrant violation of your unspecified creator-given right to... uh not see christmas trees I guess?

Seriously, what harm does it do?
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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:00 pm

Saint Clair Island wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Oh noes, you can't put a manager up in City Hall? Who do these people think they are?! They're acting like the Fist Amendment actually means something! The nerve of those people!

Well, if the community or its representatives wish to put up a christmas tree in the central square or whatever, that's clearly a flagrant violation of your unspecified creator-given right to... uh not see christmas trees I guess?

Seriously, what harm does it do?


Christmas tree are generic enough for me. I call mine Yule tree though.

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Postby Set the Unbound » Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:05 pm

Innsmothe wrote:Destruction to the false Christian tradition!

Life to Jul, Yule and Saturnalia!


Hey, you forgot Mithras! It's his birthday too.

Time for a Greek-style feast with my brother Roman soldiers, in a cave decorated with Persian/Babylonian motifs.

Long live multiculturalism!
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Postby Galt Worshippers » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:32 pm

The Spanish do Christmas better. The three wise kings bringing edible chocolate coal and Mother Christmas making the toys. :)

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:09 am

Santa is a lie

That is not nice.

Santa Claus:

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Santa Claus.

http://www.noradsanta.org/en/video.html

http://www.noradsanta.org/
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Postby New Manvir » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:15 am

Santa Claus (or "Klaus" as he's known to his East German handlers) is the code name of one Kris Kringle, nationality and age unknown, who operates as a spy for the Soviet Union. Claus presents an image of himself as a philanthropist and humanitarian, however new evidence suggests that he operates a gulag-like labour camp somewhere in the high arctic. Claus is suspected of employing slave labour in the construction of hidden surveillance equipment disguised as children's toys. He keeps his operation going by running a very effective propaganda campaign that has enamoured countless children and adults with his ideology. In reality Claus is an unabashed communist who is actively working with the Soviet Union and other communist nations to subvert the capitalist system of the United States and other Western democracies.

Claus' ingenious plan involves bankrupting American industry by mass producing consumer goods with the use of slave labour. In addition to this, he targets the children of high ranking diplomats and other civil servants with surveillance equipment in order to pass sensitive data to foreign government agencies. When this proves ineffective Claus is known to break into the homes and offices of government officials using chimneys and other ventilation systems. How he accomplishes this is still unknown.

Claus is known to be in the company of fierce and possibly rabid animals that he uses for protection. His main means of conveyance seems to be a sleigh that flies. Again, how he accomplishes such a feat is unknown, but it seems he lacks any sort of stealth technology as he is consistently spotted by NORAD on an annual basis. Claus' use of slave labour is well documented by the testimony of escaped prisoners. Prisoners are deliberately malnourished in an attempt to lower their stature and make escape increasingly difficult. The prisoners are frequently known as E.L.V.E.S., what the acronym stands for is currently unknown.

Claus presents a clear and present danger to the United States and it's allies, as well as current world stability and hegemony. He constantly flouts international air travel regulations and hundreds of other laws. In addition to this Claus frequently wears a red uniform to represent his communist beliefs.
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Postby Smartephant » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:59 am

Next time you're at the mall go over to the Santa get up with all the kids standing in line to meet him and loudly announce "Santa Claus is your parents, that is just a fat old man that like holding small children on his lap."

It's not quite as good as "Snape kills Dumbledore" or "Eli dies at the end" but the first one lasts forever whereas the others were only good for a single book and game release respectively.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:48 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Tekania wrote:
I like the Dutch Santa... makes more sense.... Former Eastern Church Bishop living in Spain with his African slaves; and he beats bad kids with a switch, or sells them into slavery in Morocco..... And over here we simply threaten bad kids with getting chunks of fossil fuel in their stocking.

did you get to the part where he suggests that dutch parents must warn their kids to pack some stuff because santa is coming and maybe he'll leave them presents, maybe he'll kidnap them to spain or maybe he'll just pretend to beat them?


? I think you understood that i'm Dutch and when I was a kid my dad never told me to pack my stuff. I don't think parents ever do this here.
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Postby Juristonia » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:07 am

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Juristonia wrote:Well, if there were any members far too young to be on here, the OP just broke their fragile little hearts.


Then they shouldn't have opened the thread, nonetheless even be on this site


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Postby Sebytania » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:47 am

Set the Unbound wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:Destruction to the false Christian tradition!

Life to Jul, Yule and Saturnalia!


Hey, you forgot Mithras! It's his birthday too.

Time for a Greek-style feast with my brother Roman soldiers, in a cave decorated with Persian/Babylonian motifs.

Long live multiculturalism!


Look, I'm all for multiculturalism and freedom of religion, but I think it's gone a bit too far. These Christian immigrants are pushing their laws into ours and are destroying our culture. They have even managed to convince some of us turn their backs to their original faith and start believing in this... Jahve, or whatever his name is. And they are free to mock our beliefs, while if I criticize Christianity I get called a blasphemer and whatnot.

They also ruin our places of worship and build their own religious buildings on top of them. Stop the Christian takeover!

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Postby Tekania » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:25 am

Aethyopea wrote:So, do you partake in the War on Christmas?


Yes, this year I've performed a surgical strike on someone's candy-cane lines side walk, and took out their inflatable Santa's Sleigh and reindeer which plays "Here Comes Santa Clause", with a stinger missile.... Tomorrow I'm planning on performing a napalm strike on a neighbour's outdoor nativity scene. On Christmas Eve I'm bringing out the AA cannons and peppering the sky over my house with Flak, just in case Santa does actually exist... If he then survives the crash, I have a room built under my garage where I can hold him for interrogation so as to ascertain the whereabouts of Bin Laden.
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Postby Mirkana » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:00 am

So long as nobody declares war on Hanukkah, I'm fine.

Also, if you're thinking about declaring war on Hanukkah, be warned: it's a martial holiday.
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Postby Tekania » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:30 am

Mirkana wrote:So long as nobody declares war on Hanukkah, I'm fine.

Also, if you're thinking about declaring war on Hanukkah, be warned: it's a martial holiday.


I won't personally do it; I'll pull a Cheney and convince the government to do it because Jews are supporting Al Qaeda, and then take their oil.
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Postby Mirkana » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:32 am

Tekania wrote:
Mirkana wrote:So long as nobody declares war on Hanukkah, I'm fine.

Also, if you're thinking about declaring war on Hanukkah, be warned: it's a martial holiday.


I won't personally do it; I'll pull a Cheney and convince the government to do it because Jews are supporting Al Qaeda, and then take their oil.


If you want a javelin through your skull, be my guest.
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Postby FREEaquaticdancelesson » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:33 am

War on Christmas?

Not really... I don't see anyone blocking Christmas in the media... maybe in schools..

I have many Muslim and Jewish friends who despised Christmas time because they were FORCED to practice a tradition that was SACRELIGIOUS to their own religion.... It was degrading and they were getting Christianity pushed on them at a school the government made them go to.

Me? I'm agnostic, so I get to celebrate all the goddamn holidays.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:35 am

Wilgrove wrote:
Imsogone wrote:If Christians would stop telling Pagans and atheists that they can't celebrate because the season is Christian and only Christians can partake I'd be fine with stopping the "war". I don't care how many creches, crosses and little baby Jesuses they put up as long as I can put up my Solstice tree and yule log (which they stole, btw), Jews can put up their Menorahs and spin their dreidls, and everyone else who has a reason to celebrate is allowed their celebration - in public. The way I figure, it's all or nothing - everyone claims the season or no one can claim it. So, once the Christians among you accept that we all have a claim on the season and we all have a right to our public displays of faith or lack thereof during this season, the war will end.


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Agreed. As for my part in the war an Xmas, I just plan on having a fresh venison dinner. :twisted:
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Postby Muravyets » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:53 am

Ashmoria wrote:there is a war on christmas VACATION.

that mean old harry reid is threatening to reconvene the senate on the 26th so they can get back to work passing stuff that needs passing.

awwwww those senators have it so much harder than the unemployed who would love to be working on christmas.

And the barely employed who don't dare take even Christmas Eve off to be with their families. Why I know folks who even work on -- gasp! -- Christmas Day. And it's not even just out of spite.
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