The "Get The Cat-Tribe A Commendation Project"

[Ashmoria]

i have no opinion of anything proposed in WA....

but is cat-tribes back? he was taking a break from NSG and id hate to see him miss the celebration of his commendation.

[Barringtonia]

i have no opinion of anything proposed in WA....

but is cat-tribes back? he was taking a break from NSG and id hate to see him miss the celebration of his commendation.

I'm no Sherlock Holmes but..

..clue..

Buy one.

Oh I'm just teasing Ash

[Ashmoria]

i have no opinion of anything proposed in WA....

but is cat-tribes back? he was taking a break from NSG and id hate to see him miss the celebration of his commendation.

I'm no Sherlock Holmes but..

..clue..

Buy one.

Oh I'm just teasing Ash

lol

i did scroll quickly through this thread to check for his avatar but....

[Unibot]

Perhaps I can help you understand my response better: I was objecting to, and poorly assuming others would object to, actions self-described as "disguising" and "circumventing". Now that you've excised those terms, you are responding to me as if I said some things I did not say.

I did not say that any alternative proposal would have to come through the SC. I thought perhaps there could be discussion about the mods or someone else adding a commendation that would appear on a nations record for contributions to general, but it would be separate and distinct from what you discussed with Max Barry (with the exception of Max alluding to "some kind of Hall of Fame" or words to the effect, which only further indicate that Max might consider some other kind of award or commendation).

Even if the site managers are currently opposed to the idea, future dialogue or innovative arguments could conceivably change their minds, so saying "not going to happen" may possibly be overly categorical. In any case, what you and Max discussed in your exchange is very different from what I was proposing (again, except for the "Hall of Fame" idea, which he proposed and could very much fit what I was suggesting).

Thank you for your concern for how I "feel" and for my "understanding". However, what I took issue with was your original proposal that things be disguised (clearly alluding to deliberate misrepresentation) and rules circumvented (wherein I would have preferred open challenge and reform as alternatives). Thus, your past "feelings" and your current enlightenment really miss the mark of what I was saying, as does your rendering of my supposed misunderingstanding of an adminstrator's position.

While I certainly respect your right to change your OP, you have continued to evaluate (and mischaracterize) my response as if it takes some kind of issue with your now edited proposal. I don't "feel" one way or another about commendations in the SC, I was proposing something entirely different. Similarly, I don't fail to "understand" the admin's decision, as that wasn't what I was taking issue with. I was proposing alternatives, both to the SC and to what I originally saw you propose.

In any case, I was incorrect to have spoken for anyone else. I'll withdraw from the thread, and good luck with whatever happens.

Perhaps you can understand my original response better, I ran a blockade of the Security Council that was used to shut down the Security Council for three months in protest of the ruleset change. It took me a long time to see the wisdom in Max Barry's intentions with the rule, and I still incorrectly think at times that I have to 'circumvent' the rules, when in fact, compliance with them is a beautiful thing.

I understand your suggestion, and I'd like you to bring it up in technical.

But I think there is something independently better about commending a generalite on an egalitarian soapbox, instead of keeping this a strictly generalite accolade for generalites. Because of that, I'm still going to pursue this commendation, but I think it would be good idea to post in technical and articulate your idea.

But certainly a commendation should include the achievement of the nation's WA delegation in writing a sane resolution on abortion reduction and arguing it without making half the Assembly decide to permanently ignore the other half.

I'm going to begin the resolution with the Reduction of Abortion, then ease into the Generalite career .. that way I can make it seamless and start with the noncontroversial and move to the controversial. Only in the Security Council would abortion be a noncontroversial topic compared to say.. NSG!

TCT, since this is a good thread to get you in, can I ask if you've ever heard of a guy called Gary Edles?

Perhaps a telegram?

[Andaluciae]

Posh. I was booted from the United Nations--what the World Assembly was before the IRL UN threatened Max.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I think that if any NSGer should be commended by the WA, TCT is that member. He is a good debater, he can keep his civility in situation where others lose it and his posts are always well informed and concise.

[Helertia]

I think that if any NSGer should be commended by the WA, TCT is that member. He is a good debater, he can keep his civility in situation where others lose it and his posts are always well informed and concise.

Effectively, this. TCT is a wonderful candidate, and has been picked for all the right reasons. Although I would hope that if this takes off, wit and creativity are rewarded equally.

[Unibot]

Now included on the page is an unfinished version of the commendation -- it is lacking the majority of TCT's NSG history which I have yet to compile.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I think that if any NSGer should be commended by the WA, TCT is that member. He is a good debater, he can keep his civility in situation where others lose it and his posts are always well informed and concise.

Effectively, this. TCT is a wonderful candidate, and has been picked for all the right reasons. Although I would hope that if this takes off, wit and creativity are rewarded equally.

Creativity and wit are also good qualities to be considered. I was merely making reference to the qualities that, to me, are always present in TCT's posts.

[Helertia]

Effectively, this. TCT is a wonderful candidate, and has been picked for all the right reasons. Although I would hope that if this takes off, wit and creativity are rewarded equally.

Creativity and wit are also good qualities to be considered. I was merely making reference to the qualities that, to me, are always present in TCT's posts.

Oh, sorry, I wasn't addressing that at you! I rather forgot I quoted you. Sorry!

[Muravyets]

I went to Law School because of Cat-Tribes. He impresses me that much.

You visited a building because of him?

Yes, TCT told Hamm that he dropped a wallet containing some ridiculously huge sum of cash behind a potted plant there. He always falls for that.

[Muravyets]

Whether I deserve commendation from anyone for anything is a matter of opinion and ultimately for the proper channels to decide, but (having been asked in advance by Unibot) I thought I break my vacation (which is increasingly being honored more in the breach than in the practice ) to make clear I do not -- as some suggest -- object to this project by Unibot. I am honored, flattered, and willing to be "used" as a "test case" (to the extent that even applies).

I may not be the right candidate, but the artificial barriers between the WA/SC, II/RP, F7, and NSG are rather silly and this may help break them down. I admit I am not big on II roleplay and my participation in F7 has been scanty. From time to time, however, I have been active in the WA -- including drafting a proposed resolution, creating a thread seeking input and revision, submitting a consequently revised proposal, lobbying to get enough votes to get the resolution to meet Quorum, and finally to get the resolution sucessfully passed. I have at various times actively debated the merits of draft resolutions or resolutions at vote -- although I used to do so more before we moved from Jolt. So, while I consider myself primarily a Generalite, I use at least some of the other forums as well. I know there are other Generalites who are even more active than I in roleplay or WA matters.

I think Unibot's purpose is to break down the artificial wall that insulates RP and WA from NSG and other forums. Whether I am the best candidate for that purpose is a matter of discussion, but (although I confess only a quick surface level knowledge of the applicable rules and will have to go read them) I believe this is more a break from common practice than it is a challenge or circumvention of any rule. Even if it is a challenge to a rule, I trust the judgment of Unibot (until someone gives me evidence otherwise) that the rule ought to be challenged. If anyone has drawn the impression from my oft citation of law that I think law is necessarily always right, they are completely mistaken.

Anyway, Unibot can speak for himself, but I he is looking for input into whether, in addition to whether a Generalite should be recognized by the SC at all, whether any of you have an opinion as to whether I am a good candidate. If so, why? If not, why? Examples are appreciate.

Although I am certain everyone will remain civil and refrain from flaming, I vow to do my utmost to take even the harshest criticism or reasons why I would not be a good candidate in good humor and NOT personally.

I hope further to return to vacation and not post in this thread again.

I leave it to the the good populace of NSG to say what the will about Unibot's idea.

This being the case, I wholeheartedly endorse the proposal.

[Farnhamia]

Whether I deserve commendation from anyone for anything is a matter of opinion and ultimately for the proper channels to decide, but (having been asked in advance by Unibot) I thought I break my vacation (which is increasingly being honored more in the breach than in the practice ) to make clear I do not -- as some suggest -- object to this project by Unibot. I am honored, flattered, and willing to be "used" as a "test case" (to the extent that even applies).

I may not be the right candidate, but the artificial barriers between the WA/SC, II/RP, F7, and NSG are rather silly and this may help break them down. I admit I am not big on II roleplay and my participation in F7 has been scanty. From time to time, however, I have been active in the WA -- including drafting a proposed resolution, creating a thread seeking input and revision, submitting a consequently revised proposal, lobbying to get enough votes to get the resolution to meet Quorum, and finally to get the resolution sucessfully passed. I have at various times actively debated the merits of draft resolutions or resolutions at vote -- although I used to do so more before we moved from Jolt. So, while I consider myself primarily a Generalite, I use at least some of the other forums as well. I know there are other Generalites who are even more active than I in roleplay or WA matters.

I think Unibot's purpose is to break down the artificial wall that insulates RP and WA from NSG and other forums. Whether I am the best candidate for that purpose is a matter of discussion, but (although I confess only a quick surface level knowledge of the applicable rules and will have to go read them) I believe this is more a break from common practice than it is a challenge or circumvention of any rule. Even if it is a challenge to a rule, I trust the judgment of Unibot (until someone gives me evidence otherwise) that the rule ought to be challenged. If anyone has drawn the impression from my oft citation of law that I think law is necessarily always right, they are completely mistaken.

Anyway, Unibot can speak for himself, but I he is looking for input into whether, in addition to whether a Generalite should be recognized by the SC at all, whether any of you have an opinion as to whether I am a good candidate. If so, why? If not, why? Examples are appreciate.

Although I am certain everyone will remain civil and refrain from flaming, I vow to do my utmost to take even the harshest criticism or reasons why I would not be a good candidate in good humor and NOT personally.

I hope further to return to vacation and not post in this thread again.

I leave it to the the good populace of NSG to say what the will about Unibot's idea.

This being the case, I wholeheartedly endorse the proposal.

As do I.

[Unibot]

I've added a fairly comprehensive "CELEBRATING" clause to the draft which articulates what makes TCT's conduct so prolific.

[Hammurab]

Perhaps you can understand my original response better, I ran a blockade of the Security Council that was used to shut down the Security Council for three months in protest of the ruleset change. It took me a long time to see the wisdom in Max Barry's intentions with the rule, and I still incorrectly think at times that I have to 'circumvent' the rules, when in fact, compliance with them is a beautiful thing.

I understand your suggestion, and I'd like you to bring it up in technical.

But I think there is something independently better about commending a generalite on an egalitarian soapbox, instead of keeping this a strictly generalite accolade for generalites. Because of that, I'm still going to pursue this commendation, but I think it would be good idea to post in technical and articulate your idea.

Jesus Christ. Your repsonse here shows that you don't have even the most basic grasp or comprehension of what I was taking issue with, and incredibly, you are still talking at me as if I wasn't responding to your pre-edited post.

Since you likely aren't ever going to get it through your head that I don't need your help understanding the admin's position (whether I agree with it or not), and since you aren't gong to see that I only objected because of the terms that you removed (and that since you removed them, the rest of what you're replying to me is basically addressing something other than what I said), I'm just going to put you on ignore, take my own short break from NSG, and wish you luck.

[Buffett and Colbert]

I'm a little leery about extending the WA's role to non-gameplay things, but I'll go along with this since TCT a Generalite definitely worthy of commendation.

For the resolution, I'd recommend you spell his name "The Cat-Tribe" as opposed to "the Cat-Tribe" as the former is his actual name.

I really don't know how linking to and mentioning non-gameplay things (such as "General" and the poster awards) will fly with the rules, but whatever.

I would suggest adding something along the lines of: "ACKNOWLEDGING The Cat-Tribe's thorough willingness to explain topics to the best of his ability and in the spirit of goodwill to others upon request,"

Also, I'd suggest capitalising "by" after "IMPRESSED."

[The Rich Port]

I think Cat-Tribes wants us to educate ourselves; to be more open minded to factuality and reason. At the very least, he certainly keeps us updated.

[Johz]

Well... I suppose once you've done this, your next challenge is to get a proper F7'er into the commendation list, what with all the hating. But I'd whole-heartedly support cross-forum interchange. Seems a bit, well, serious to me, but hey...

[Unibot]

For the resolution, I'd recommend you spell his name "The Cat-Tribe" as opposed to "the Cat-Tribe" as the former is his actual name.

Updated.

I really don't know how linking to and mentioning non-gameplay things (such as "General" and the poster awards) will fly with the rules, but whatever.

The linking will only be in the forum-version. As for "in General" and "Poster Awards", we will have to see.. nobody really knows for sure, except the mods. I'd think the word, "Poster" would be illegal, if it wasn't the legitimate name of the award ceremony (we're allowed to refer to organizations with 'feeder' in the name, but not feeders).

I would suggest adding something along the lines of: "ACKNOWLEDGING The Cat-Tribe's thorough willingness to explain topics to the best of his ability and in the spirit of goodwill to others upon request,"

Also, I'd suggest capitalising "by" after "IMPRESSED."

Updated.

[Sdaeriji]

I think Hammurab would be a better nominee.

[Buffett and Colbert]

I think Hammurab would be a better nominee.

I don't think we're limited to one person, here...

[Barringtonia]

...take my own short break from NSG, and wish you luck.

I think Hammurab would be a better nominee.

Clearly taking a short break is route 1 to getting nominated

[Hassett]

So does this mean we can condemn generalites too?

[Buffett and Colbert]

So does this mean we can condemn generalites too?

This is partly why I'm not very thrilled about opening this can of worms...

[Unibot]

So does this mean we can condemn generalites too?

Probably not.

I think Hammurab would be a better nominee.

As previous said by some, we're not limited to one candidate, I think it would be easier to commend TCT first, because of his WA career.. this will set greater precedent for Hammurab and other worthy choices. I would however like to point out that Hammurab appears to prefer an OOC-esque Player's Club over the Security Council, and may object on the grounds of a commendation, however I wouldn't know for sure because he has since put me on his ignore list because he didn't think I was understanding his position.