What is a fair punishment for rape?

by **L3 Communications** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:35 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Norstal wrote:Rape is not funny. Rape is not funny even if it is being done to a prostitute.

Its not rape if you paid her.

it's

by **The Corparation** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:39 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Its not rape if you paid her.

it's

I was being sarcastic.

by **L3 Communications** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:39 pm

The Corparation wrote:
L3 Communications wrote:
it's

I was being sarcastic.

i was correcting your grammar

you can thank me later

also, it's not assault if you paid her, vince offer

by **Maxedon** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:41 pm

death.

by **Llocsirdia** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:42 pm

Send them to the Gulag for life!

by **The Corparation** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:45 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
The Corparation wrote:I was being sarcastic.

i was correcting your grammar

you can thank me later

also, it's not assault if you paid her, vince offer

Ahh. IO though you meant: "It is"

by **Maineiacs** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:43 am

Nadkor wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:Amputation of the offending organ.

How's that one going to work for female rapists?

Sew it shut.

by **The Parkus Empire** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:13 am

Mesogiria wrote:
Norstal wrote:Rape is not funny. Rape is not funny even if it is being done to a prostitute.

Should I be worried that this sentence proved to be necessary?

Funny how a lot of people who complain about black humor involving rape often aren't offended by black humor involving murder. *shrugs* Kinda like those parents who thought GTA went too far by allowing the characters to drink and drive.

by **Sebytania** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:02 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Mesogiria wrote:Should I be worried that this sentence proved to be necessary?

Funny how a lot of people who complain about black humor involving rape often aren't offended by black humor involving murder. *shrugs* Kinda like those parents who thought GTA went too far by allowing the characters to drink and drive.

Because it's not funny! Think of the children!

Or, given where the thread is going, don't think of the children.

by **Wiztopia** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:03 am

Sebytania wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Funny how a lot of people who complain about black humor involving rape often aren't offended by black humor involving murder. *shrugs* Kinda like those parents who thought GTA went too far by allowing the characters to drink and drive.

Because it's not funny! Think of the children!

Or, given where the thread is going, don't think of the children.

What about the children?

by **Bendira** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:31 am

Person012345 wrote:
Bendira wrote:
Presumably they gave consent before they passed out. Woman use rape as a weapon and attention seeking tool, so you have to narrow what can be considered rape considerably. Changing your mind in the middle randomly right ebfore it is over, or passing out is just wrong.

Yeah I know. I was choking some girl so she couldn't say no (and it's not rape if they don't say no amirite?) and she went and passed out. It's just rude. Then you know what happened? Those fucking cops came along and arrested me. I mean, what right do they have to take away my freedom just because I was forcibly having my way with some girl who didn't want it? I didn't sign no social contract. It's kidnapping!

HERP DERP. That has nothing to do with what I said. What you just described is rape.

by **The Rich Port** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:32 am

Person012345 wrote:
Bendira wrote:
Presumably they gave consent before they passed out. Woman use rape as a weapon and attention seeking tool, so you have to narrow what can be considered rape considerably. Changing your mind in the middle randomly right ebfore it is over, or passing out is just wrong.

Yeah I know. I was choking some girl so she couldn't say no (and it's not rape if they don't say no amirite?) and she went and passed out. It's just rude. Then you know what happened? Those fucking cops came along and arrested me. I mean, what right do they have to take away my freedom just because I was forcibly having my way with some girl who didn't want it? I didn't sign no social contract. It's kidnapping!

You'd think people of the sort would at least get it on tape...

by **Bendira** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:33 am

Gravlen wrote:
Bendira wrote:
Presumably they gave consent before they passed out. Woman use rape as a weapon and attention seeking tool, so you have to narrow what can be considered rape considerably. Changing your mind in the middle randomly right ebfore it is over, or passing out is just wrong.

Presumably they gave consent before they passed out... Ok, but how can you presume that they gave consent for continuing to have sex after they passed out?

People have the right to change their minds, and that is to be respected. It's your obligation to stop when the other party says that this is going too far, or that he doesn't want to do this anymore. The fact that some people have used presented false allegations of rape for varying purposes in the past doesn't change that at all.

And how in the Hell can it be "wrong" to pass out?

Its not wrong to pass out, but once you issue consent id say its fair game. Now obviously if there was an objection in the middle, it would have to stop. If the girl passes out 10 seconds before your about to finish however, and then she accuses you of rape, thats not right.

by **Georgism** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:34 am

Bendira wrote:HERP DERP. That has nothing to do with what I said. What you just described is rape.

As is continuing after a woman passes out.

by **Bendira** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:37 am

Georgism wrote:
Bendira wrote:HERP DERP. That has nothing to do with what I said. What you just described is rape.

As is continuing after a woman passes out.

Ok, so if she passes out 5 seconds before you finish its rape right? Even though she consented 3 minutes ago?

by **Georgism** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:43 am

Bendira wrote:Ok, so if she passes out 5 seconds before you finish its rape right? Even though she consented 3 minutes ago?

If you continue until you finish, you raped her for 5 seconds.

by **Dyakovo** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:57 am

Bendira wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Yeah I know. I was choking some girl so she couldn't say no (and it's not rape if they don't say no amirite?) and she went and passed out. It's just rude. Then you know what happened? Those fucking cops came along and arrested me. I mean, what right do they have to take away my freedom just because I was forcibly having my way with some girl who didn't want it? I didn't sign no social contract. It's kidnapping!

HERP DERP. That has nothing to do with what I said. What you just described is rape.

And if the person is unconscious they are no longer able to consent. Thus if you continue, it is rape.

by **Dyakovo** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:58 am

Bendira wrote:Its not wrong to pass out, but once you issue consent id say its fair game.

Because you are apparently a scumbag rapist who is just looking for excuses to make it ok. Sex without consent is rape. An unconscious person is unable to consent.

by **Dyakovo** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:59 am

Bendira wrote:
Georgism wrote:As is continuing after a woman passes out.

Ok, so if she passes out 5 seconds before you finish its rape right? Even though she consented 3 minutes ago?

Yes

by **Bendira** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:01 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Bendira wrote:

Ok, so if she passes out 5 seconds before you finish its rape right? Even though she consented 3 minutes ago?

Yes

Lol, you guys clearly have never experienced false rape accusations. I have several friends whose lives were almost completely destroyed over false rape accusations.

by **Georgism** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:03 am

Bendira wrote:Lol, you guys clearly have never experienced false rape accusations. I have several friends whose lives were almost completely destroyed over false rape accusations.

False rape accusations aren't the same thing as actual rape.

Is this really so difficult Bendira?

by **Bendira** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:07 am

Georgism wrote:
Bendira wrote:Lol, you guys clearly have never experienced false rape accusations. I have several friends whose lives were almost completely destroyed over false rape accusations.

False rape accusations aren't the same thing as actual rape.

Is this really so difficult Bendira?

Defining rape as finishing with somebody who passed out 5 seconds ago is opening a box for all sorts of false accusations. Girls can accuse practically anybody of rape at that point, claiming they passed out. In my opinion, once they consent, any way to avoid them being able to retract consent should be established. Unless there is a physical assault taking place, there is no reason for consent to be withdrawn. If consent is withdrawn right at the end, then it was obviously some sort of "rape trap". The innocent guys whose lives are destroyed over false rape accusations arguably have it just as bad as women who legitimately have been raped.

by **Dyakovo** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:09 am

Bendira wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Yes

Lol, you guys clearly have never experienced false rape accusations. I have several friends whose lives were almost completely destroyed over false rape accusations.

Or I actually understand that sex with someone who doesn't or cannot consent is rape.

by **Dyakovo** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:11 am

Bendira wrote:
Georgism wrote:False rape accusations aren't the same thing as actual rape.

Is this really so difficult Bendira?
Unless there is a physical assault taking place, there is no reason for consent to be withdrawn.

Yes there is. It's called deciding that you no longer consent.

by **Bendira** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:11 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Bendira wrote:
Lol, you guys clearly have never experienced false rape accusations. I have several friends whose lives were almost completely destroyed over false rape accusations.

Or I actually understand that sex with someone who doesn't or cannot consent is rape.

Wow good one bro. Are you on the debate team?

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