What is a fair punishment for rape?

[Athenarena]

Locked in a ring with a deadly animal:if (s)he lives let 'em go if not let the animal have its way.







ALL HAIL ME

That is one great idea! Is that for all of them or particular rapists?

Rape is about having sexual and physical control over the victim. It is about hurting the victim for the rapist's own enjoyment. It is not in any way about love. It is about pain and suffering for the rapist's fantasy. Giving love is right but rape is not love.

Rape is giving love in a more...forced...undesired way. It's the victim's fault if they don't like it.

How is it the victim's fault?! They are held against their will, often bound and gagged, threatened with their lives and raped! That is not love, that is sadism!

[The Parkus Empire]

Goddamn, so many vile, disgusting ideas here, between considering rape "okay," and calling for barbaric punishment of the perpetrator.

I love NSG.

[Dyakovo]

That is not love, that is sadism!

The two are not mutually exclusive...

[The Parkus Empire]

I ♥ sadism

[Vetok]

Rape is giving love in a more...forced...undesired way. It's the victim's fault if they don't like it.

How is it the victim's fault?! They are held against their will, often bound and gagged, threatened with their lives and raped! That is not love, that is sadism!

Please tell me you have no intention of making a link between rape and bondage.

Other than that, Materialistia, you seriously advocating rape? How would you like it if someone advocated that you should be sodomised with a broom handle and you had to enjoy it?

[Athenarena]

How is it the victim's fault?! They are held against their will, often bound and gagged, threatened with their lives and raped! That is not love, that is sadism!

Please tell me you have no intention of making a link between rape and bondage.

I have no intention to make a link. What I meant by that is often rapists bind, gag and blindfold their victims to ensure that the victims cannot escape or see who their rapist is so as to avoid the victim to be able identify them or defend themselves in the attack. I should have said bound and gagged against their wishes. Would that have removed the misunderstanding?

That is not love, that is sadism!

The two are not mutually exclusive...

I know that but what rapists do to their victims is sadistic without love. If you consent, I do not want to know about the two being inclusive. I meant, they are exclusive in this situation.

[Vetok]

Please tell me you have no intention of making a link between rape and bondage.

I have no intention to make a link. What I meant by that is often rapists bind, gag and blindfold their victims to ensure that the victims cannot escape or see who their rapist is so as to avoid the victim to be able identify them or defend themselves in the attack. I should have said bound and gagged against their wishes. Would that have removed the misunderstanding?

Yes, I believe so.

[Athenarena]

I have no intention to make a link. What I meant by that is often rapists bind, gag and blindfold their victims to ensure that the victims cannot escape or see who their rapist is so as to avoid the victim to be able identify them or defend themselves in the attack. I should have said bound and gagged against their wishes. Would that have removed the misunderstanding?

Yes, I believe so.

Oh right. Please allow me to rephrase it now. bound and gagged in my original post should have read bound and gagged against their wishes.

Thank you for pointing that out.

[The Parkus Empire]

Oh right. Please allow me to rephrase it now. bound and gagged in my original post should have read bound and gagged against their wishes.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Make sure you say, non-consensual rape, next time, too, just so there's no misunderstandings.

[Athenarena]

Oh right. Please allow me to rephrase it now. bound and gagged in my original post should have read bound and gagged against their wishes.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Make sure you say, non-consensual rape, next time, too, just so there's no misunderstandings.

Thanks for the point The Parkus Empire! However, I see rape as equalling non-consensual. If it is consensual, then is it not just sex? Slight confusion for me there.

[The Parkus Empire]

Thanks for the point The Parkus Empire! However, I see rape as equalling non-consensual. If it is consensual, then is it not just sex? Slight confusion for me there.

There are those among the BDSM community who fantasize about being raped/raping someone, but only consensually--as in two (or more) partners act it out. And if you throw around rape like you do without mentioning what you mean, you might offend someone, might look like you're trying to link the two kinds of rape.

[Athenarena]

Thanks for the point The Parkus Empire! However, I see rape as equalling non-consensual. If it is consensual, then is it not just sex? Slight confusion for me there.

There are those among the BDSM community who fantasize about being raped/raping someone, but only consensually--as in two (or more) partners act it out. And if you throw around rape like you do without mentioning what you mean, you might offend someone, might look like you're trying to link the two kinds of rape.

Thanks for the note The Parkus Empire. I had no idea of the second and I had no idea about the fantasy. I will be sure to specify from now on, I assure you. I do not want to offend someone, non-intentionally or intentionally.

[Sebytania]

Oh right. Please allow me to rephrase it now. bound and gagged in my original post should have read bound and gagged against their wishes.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Make sure you say, non-consensual rape, next time, too, just so there's no misunderstandings.

But doesn't rape already equal to non-consensual sexual behaviour? Thus,

non-consensual rape = -[(-consent)+sex] = (consent)+sex = consensual sex?

[Vetok]

Oh right. Please allow me to rephrase it now. bound and gagged in my original post should have read bound and gagged against their wishes.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Make sure you say, non-consensual rape, next time, too, just so there's no misunderstandings.

Hey, I thought he was making a link between bondage and rape. If you can't see the context then don't pour oil on the fire.

[Athenarena]

Make sure you say, non-consensual rape, next time, too, just so there's no misunderstandings.

Hey, I thought he was making a link between bondage and rape. If you can't see the context then don't pour oil on the fire.

Sorry, what are you saying? My head is too full of classics.

[Geniasis]

I do... But then I'm also more concerned with whether or not she gets off than if I do...

I'd be concerned with both of us getting off, if only one of us does then it's a failure in our technique.

And I've been trained by far too many senile, elderly, Asian men for it to be my fault.

[The Parkus Empire]

Hey, I thought he was making a link between bondage and rape. If you can't see the context then don't pour oil on the fire.

Well I thought he was making a link between rape and rape!

[Athenarena]

Hey, I thought he was making a link between bondage and rape. If you can't see the context then don't pour oil on the fire.

Well I thought he was making a link between rape and rape!

Hang on! FEMALE HERE! Stop calling me a he!

[The Parkus Empire]

Hang on! FEMALE HERE! Stop calling me a he!

"He" is the standard singular for persons in the English language when a doll is not specifically evident. However, I will be sure to use the proper term from now on, baby.

[Athenarena]

Hang on! FEMALE HERE! Stop calling me a he!

"He" is the standard singular for persons in the English language when a doll is not specifically evident. However, I will be sure to use the proper term from now on, baby.

Seriously? I would use the word it. Thanks for the assurance to use the proper term from now on.

[The Parkus Empire]

Sure, just keep your pants on, kitty-cat. Or don't.

[Athenarena]

Sure, just keep your pants on, kitty-cat. Or don't.

They are staying on. Too cold to take them off

[Nadkor]

Seriously? I would use the word it. Thanks for the assurance to use the proper term from now on.

Really? Really, though? You'd rather be referred to as a non-human object than as a man?

[The Parkus Empire]

Sure, just keep your pants on, kitty-cat. Or don't.

They are staying on. Too cold to take them off

That does make it more difficult. Then again, the cold can easily be remedied.

[Athenarena]

They are staying on. Too cold to take them off

That does make it more difficult. Then again, the cold can easily be remedied.

We are in freezing temperatures here in Ireland.