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Postby Jordanda » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:43 am

Plopburger wrote:
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wrong sir! because sometimes death is the only justafiable punishment, killing the villin ain't always wrong. so sorry "you where close but no cigar, sir!"

There is never justification for murder. Ever.


listen, killing ain't always murder, killing during war is justafiable, and killing a rapist or a murderer is no more then severe punishment for their severe crime. and also by slamming the raped like you did above is so jag-off-ish of you, how bout we rape you and see your answer!!!! all yins people posting crap like you just did are misinformed

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Postby Plopburger » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:45 am

Jordanda wrote:
Plopburger wrote:There is never justification for murder. Ever.


listen, killing ain't always murder, killing during war is justafiable, and killing a rapist or a murderer is no more then severe punishment for their severe crime. and also by slamming the raped like you did above is so jag-off-ish of you, how bout we rape you and see your answer!!!! all yins people posting crap like you just did are misinformed

Any intentional killing is murder. Condoning murder makes you an evil person and the act you condone is more evil than rape.
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Postby Khyrta » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:46 am

Jordanda wrote:here is a little poem for what it like in prison for child rapist

Doing drugs and stealing
and killing people s fine
but when you go and rape a kid
you've really crossed the line.

I agree with this poem.
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Postby Jordanda » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:48 am

Plopburger wrote:
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listen, killing ain't always murder, killing during war is justafiable, and killing a rapist or a murderer is no more then severe punishment for their severe crime. and also by slamming the raped like you did above is so jag-off-ish of you, how bout we rape you and see your answer!!!! all yins people posting crap like you just did are misinformed

Any intentional killing is murder. Condoning murder makes you an evil person and the act you condone is more evil than rape.


okay, im done fighting with you, i am accepting the fact tht you are an ignorant jag-off. cause seriously im trying to see things yourway but i cant get my head that far up my ass
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Postby GothicLust » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:51 am

Jordanda wrote:
Plopburger wrote:Any intentional killing is murder. Condoning murder makes you an evil person and the act you condone is more evil than rape.


okay, im done fighting with you, i am accepting the fact tht you are an ignorant jag-off. cause seriously im trying to see things yourway but i cant get my head that far up my ass

What a well reasoned and intelligent position!

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Postby ItsaConspiracy » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:55 am

Xeraphim wrote:The Bible says "Eye for an Eye".
I say the person gets raped in return.

Wouldn't that mean everyone gets raped?

Anyway the bible is a tool for the elites to control the masses
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Postby ItsaConspiracy » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:57 am

Plopburger wrote:Any intentional killing is murder.

Untrue, murder must be illegal

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Postby Chinese Regions » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:01 am

justin bieber is a punishment for everything in my nation
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Postby Khyrta » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:04 am

Chinese Regions wrote:justin bieber is a punishment for everything in my nation

Bwaha!!!!! ROFL

I'll MAKE SURE not to commit any crime in your country, for fear of that. Tho the likely hood that he made it out alive afterwards is highly unlikely. He'd be dead in 0.2 seconds.
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Postby Wiztopia » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:05 am

Plopburger wrote:
Jordanda wrote:
listen, killing ain't always murder, killing during war is justafiable, and killing a rapist or a murderer is no more then severe punishment for their severe crime. and also by slamming the raped like you did above is so jag-off-ish of you, how bout we rape you and see your answer!!!! all yins people posting crap like you just did are misinformed

Any intentional killing is murder. Condoning murder makes you an evil person and the act you condone is more evil than rape.


Get on your main account, troll.

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Postby Nadkor » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:10 am

Altamirus wrote:
Bottle wrote:So?

She gets to say "stop" whenever the hell she wants. Why would you want to keep fucking her if she's telling you to stop?

I didn't say that. I said she passed out. She didn't say no, she passed out. Same problem if she were to dose off, is it rape to go off of prior consent when there is situation where there is no indication whether or not your partner wants you to keep going or not?


Interesting that you feel she can still be giving consent while unconscious.

Anybody who feels it is OK to continue once their partner has asked them to stop, or when she is unconscious, has not only condoned rape, but is a potential rapist. Anybody who has continued once their partner has asked them to stop, or when she was unconscious, is a rapist.

It really, really, can't be any more simple than that.
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Postby Georgism » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:12 am

Nadkor wrote:Interesting that you feel she can still be giving consent while unconscious.

Anybody who feels it is OK to continue once their partner has asked them to stop, or when she is unconscious, has not only condoned rape, but is a potential rapist. Anybody who has continued once their partner has asked them to stop, or when she was unconscious, is a rapist.

It really, really, can't be any more simple than that.

Is that the law or your own opinion?
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:14 am

Georgism wrote:
Nadkor wrote:Interesting that you feel she can still be giving consent while unconscious.

Anybody who feels it is OK to continue once their partner has asked them to stop, or when she is unconscious, has not only condoned rape, but is a potential rapist. Anybody who has continued once their partner has asked them to stop, or when she was unconscious, is a rapist.

It really, really, can't be any more simple than that.

Is that the law or your own opinion?


Both.
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Postby Sapphista » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:19 am

Innsmothe wrote:
Bottle wrote:In a perfect system, execution. But I don't trust my government (or any other government I know of) with the death penalty, so an acceptable alternative would be life in prison with no possibility of parole, mandatory 14 hours of work per day with all wages going directly to organizations which help provide health care and counseling for rape survivors.


That is not civilised either.

If anything a just punishment would push for the repentance and eventual release of a criminal.


I'd repent on the first day of my imprisonment so I could get out and rape again. Then I'd go to jail, again, but it'd be okay. I'd repent XD
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Postby Georgism » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:22 am

Nadkor wrote:Both.

I imagine it'd be quite hard to prove though?
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:27 am

Georgism wrote:
Nadkor wrote:Both.

I imagine it'd be quite hard to prove though?


Well, it comes down to her word against his, as is so often the way in rape cases. If they can establish that she passed out at any point and he a carried on then that's the job done, the jury will have to convict.

It's difficult, as, again, are all rape prosecutions, but by no means impossible.

Of course, if you did it, and you you manage to weasel your way out of it in court, it doesn't change what you did, and what you are as a result.
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Postby Georgism » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:29 am

Nadkor wrote:Well, it comes down to her word against his, as is so often the way in rape cases. If they can establish that she passed out at any point and he a carried on then that's the job done, the jury will have to convict.

It's difficult, as, again, are all rape prosecutions, but by no means impossible.

Of course, if you did it, and you you manage to weasel your way out of it in court, it doesn't change what you did, and what you are as a result.

I didn't, I'm a virgin. Was just wondering :P
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:33 am

Georgism wrote:
Nadkor wrote:Well, it comes down to her word against his, as is so often the way in rape cases. If they can establish that she passed out at any point and he a carried on then that's the job done, the jury will have to convict.

It's difficult, as, again, are all rape prosecutions, but by no means impossible.

Of course, if you did it, and you you manage to weasel your way out of it in court, it doesn't change what you did, and what you are as a result.

I didn't, I'm a virgin. Was just wondering :P


Well, I was using the general "you" :p
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Postby Georgism » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:35 am

Davao_County wrote:to avoid getting busted by the Law, don't rape anyone. Just make the right moves in the relationship, and things should work out fine.

Well shit.
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Postby Wiztopia » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:39 am

Davao_County wrote:to avoid getting busted by the Law, don't rape anyone. Just make the right moves in the relationship, and things should work out fine.


Because obviously sex is the most important part of a relationship.

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Postby Free Lelouche » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:40 am

Bottle wrote:
Altamirus wrote:But the said partner consented in the beginning.

So?

She gets to say "stop" whenever the hell she wants. Why would you want to keep fucking her if she's telling you to stop?
Blue balls

it hurts when you stop in the middle

Plus that is kinda a dick move

I would stop, but also I would be pretty pissed off about it, and apologies had better be given otherwise that person might not see me around anymore

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Postby Georgism » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:45 am

Free Lelouche wrote:I would stop, but also I would be pretty pissed off about it, and apologies had better be given otherwise that person might not see me around anymore

If she passed out while you were fucking her, I think it's safe to assume she probably wouldn't miss you.
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:45 am

Free Lelouche wrote:
Bottle wrote:So?

She gets to say "stop" whenever the hell she wants. Why would you want to keep fucking her if she's telling you to stop?
Blue balls

it hurts when you stop in the middle

Plus that is kinda a dick move

I would stop, but also I would be pretty pissed off about it, and apologies had better be given otherwise that person might not see me around anymore


I'm sorry if having to not be a rapist is such an inconvenience for you.
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Postby Free Lelouche » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:46 am

Altamirus wrote:
Bottle wrote:I'm actually not going to even bother continuing with this line of discussion, because I just realized I'm talking to somebody who used the phrase "women use rape as a weapon" without irony.

Hetero dudes of NSG, this one is your battle. Your brothers are walking around claiming that they can't or won't stop fucking unwilling women. If you're fine with them spreading the idea that this is normal, natural male behavior, and you are comfortable with this characterization of your gender, then so be it. I simply don't hate men enough to buy that crap, but I'm also not going to bother talking about it any further here.

Actually, it's not common but it has occurred. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case


According to the Kannin study it's actually quite common

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Postby The Norwegian Blue » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:50 am

Free Lelouche wrote:
Bottle wrote:So?

She gets to say "stop" whenever the hell she wants. Why would you want to keep fucking her if she's telling you to stop?
Blue balls

it hurts when you stop in the middle


You have a hand. You are not entitled to use an unwilling woman as a masturbatory device because it's soooooo inconvenient to use your hand instead.

Jesus Christ, this sort of shit depresses me.
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