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Postby Person012345 » Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:40 am

Trotskylvania wrote:Why do so many people want to castrate rapists?

Your testicles are pretty much dead weight in the sexual act. Losing 'em isn't going to stop someone from having sex.

Yes, because losing your main source of testosterone isn't going to affect your sex drive or anything.

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Postby Trotskylvania » Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:48 am

Person012345 wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:Why do so many people want to castrate rapists?

Your testicles are pretty much dead weight in the sexual act. Losing 'em isn't going to stop someone from having sex.

Yes, because losing your main source of testosterone isn't going to affect your sex drive or anything.

Rape has absolutely nothing to do with a person's sex drive. People don't commit rape, violent or otherwise, because they're horny. It's due to a fundamental lack of respect for the autonomy of the other person. Either they get off to the violence and the power, or they somehow feel entitled to the sex.
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Postby Tokos » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:56 am

Rogernomics wrote:Castration, they can never do it again.


Let's chop off the hands of thieves too! Saudi Arabia is such a great place to emulate!

Anyway, asking for a one-size-fits-all punishment for rape is stupid. It's like punishing all instances of ABH equally.
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Postby Wiztopia » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:44 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Yes, because losing your main source of testosterone isn't going to affect your sex drive or anything.

Rape has absolutely nothing to do with a person's sex drive. People don't commit rape, violent or otherwise, because they're horny. It's due to a fundamental lack of respect for the autonomy of the other person. Either they get off to the violence and the power, or they somehow feel entitled to the sex.


So a person who rapes a passed out girl is doing it for the violence or power?

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Postby Bottle » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:50 am

Wiztopia wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:Rape has absolutely nothing to do with a person's sex drive. People don't commit rape, violent or otherwise, because they're horny. It's due to a fundamental lack of respect for the autonomy of the other person. Either they get off to the violence and the power, or they somehow feel entitled to the sex.


So a person who rapes a passed out girl is doing it for the violence or power?

Often times yes. Sometimes they are doing it because of homosocial pressure. Sometimes they are doing it out of anger, if the girl rejected them or they believed she would reject them if they were conscious.

I'm sure some rapists also rape because they want to masturbate into a girl's body and don't particular care how she feels about it, but I wouldn't equate that with being "horny" in the conventional sense. They aren't looking for sex, because sex is a mutual act involving more than one person...a person who wants to use an unconscious girl's body for gratification is not looking for sex, he is simply looking for a means of using another person's body like a Fleshlight.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:59 am

Altamirus wrote:
Bottle wrote:Often times yes. Sometimes they are doing it because of homosocial pressure. Sometimes they are doing it out of anger, if the girl rejected them or they believed she would reject them if they were conscious.

I'm sure some rapists also rape because they want to masturbate into a girl's body and don't particular care how she feels about it, but I wouldn't equate that with being "horny" in the conventional sense. They aren't looking for sex, because sex is a mutual act involving more than one person...a person who wants to use an unconscious girl's body for gratification is not looking for sex, he is simply looking for a means of using another person's body like a Fleshlight.

This raises a god question, if two people were having consensual sex and one of the partners passed out and the other partner kept going through that partner's period of being unconsciousness, is it rape?

It depresses me that this is even a question.
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Postby Bendira » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:59 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Yes, because losing your main source of testosterone isn't going to affect your sex drive or anything.

Rape has absolutely nothing to do with a person's sex drive. People don't commit rape, violent or otherwise, because they're horny. It's due to a fundamental lack of respect for the autonomy of the other person. Either they get off to the violence and the power, or they somehow feel entitled to the sex.


AKA the ones that couldn't become cops.
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Postby Bendira » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:01 am

Bottle wrote:
Altamirus wrote:This raises a god question, if two people were having consensual sex and one of the partners passed out and the other partner kept going through that partner's period of being unconsciousness, is it rape?

It depresses me that this is even a question.



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Postby Bottle » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:03 am

Bendira wrote:
Bottle wrote:It depresses me that this is even a question.



Once you start, its hard to stop.

If you find it difficult to stop fucking non-consenting people, seek help.
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Postby Bendira » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:05 am

Bottle wrote:
Bendira wrote:

Once you start, its hard to stop.

If you find it difficult to stop fucking non-consenting people, seek help.


Presumably they gave consent before they passed out. Woman use rape as a weapon and attention seeking tool, so you have to narrow what can be considered rape considerably. Changing your mind in the middle randomly right ebfore it is over, or passing out is just wrong.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:12 am

Bendira wrote:
Bottle wrote:If you find it difficult to stop fucking non-consenting people, seek help.


Presumably they gave consent before they passed out. Woman use rape as a weapon and attention seeking tool, so you have to narrow what can be considered rape considerably. Changing your mind in the middle randomly right ebfore it is over, or passing out is just wrong.

Wait, did you seriously just say it is "wrong" for somebody to change their mind in the middle?!

That is so deeply screwed up. I cannot even grasp why you would WANT to keep fucking somebody after they say "No," no matter what you're doing. How can you WANT to keep fucking somebody who is asking you to stop? How can you be turned on by somebody being bored, or unconscious, or in pain, or otherwise NOT HAVING FUN?

I get that some people are into S&M or whatever, but you've given no indication that you're talking about those kinds of games. You seem to think it's NORMAL for guys to want to keep fucking a girl who doesn't want to keep fucking.

That's just...ugh. So much ugh. I don't even know how to deal with that sick shit.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:13 am

Altamirus wrote:
Bottle wrote:If you find it difficult to stop fucking non-consenting people, seek help.

But the said partner consented in the beginning.

So?

She gets to say "stop" whenever the hell she wants. Why would you want to keep fucking her if she's telling you to stop?
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Postby Bottle » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:17 am

I'm actually not going to even bother continuing with this line of discussion, because I just realized I'm talking to somebody who used the phrase "women use rape as a weapon" without irony.

Hetero dudes of NSG, this one is your battle. Your brothers are walking around claiming that they can't or won't stop fucking unwilling women. If you're fine with them spreading the idea that this is normal, natural male behavior, and you are comfortable with this characterization of your gender, then so be it. I simply don't hate men enough to buy that crap, but I'm also not going to bother talking about it any further here.
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Postby Atrum veneficus » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:19 am

all the way death. rapists dont deserve life

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Postby Sunsader » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:20 am

Life internment in a labour camp or execution.
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Postby Jordanda » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:23 am

Scott_Patterson wrote:a few years but if its an child that has been raped then they should die


this :clap: but before death they should be mutilated with somthing dull an rusty

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Postby Plopburger » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:27 am

I have no compassion for people who dispose of their humanity then try to justify it by saying "I've been raped!" or who attempt to engorge their manliness by threatening violent retribution against rapists. People like this advocate murder and are therefore more evil than any mere rapist. When someone is willing to kill another to satiate their lust for revenge or in an attempt at misguided justice, they are sanctioning murder, and are therefore more loathesome than any rapist. On any reasonable hierarchy of evil, murder is on top. No matter how evil rape is, to murder a rapist is a more evil act than rape itself and to condone this makes you scum.
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Postby Jordanda » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:31 am

Plopburger wrote:I have no compassion for people who dispose of their humanity then try to justify it by saying "I've been raped!" or who attempt to engorge their manliness by threatening violent retribution against rapists. People like this advocate murder and are therefore more evil than any mere rapist. When someone is willing to kill another to satiate their lust for revenge or in an attempt at misguided justice, they are sanctioning murder, and are therefore more loathesome than any rapist. On any reasonable hierarchy of evil, murder is on top. No matter how evil rape is, to murder a rapist is a more evil act than rape itself and to condone this makes you scum.


wrong sir! because sometimes death is the only justafiable punishment, killing the villin ain't always wrong. so sorry "you where close but no cigar, sir!"

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Postby Plopburger » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:32 am

Jordanda wrote:
Plopburger wrote:I have no compassion for people who dispose of their humanity then try to justify it by saying "I've been raped!" or who attempt to engorge their manliness by threatening violent retribution against rapists. People like this advocate murder and are therefore more evil than any mere rapist. When someone is willing to kill another to satiate their lust for revenge or in an attempt at misguided justice, they are sanctioning murder, and are therefore more loathesome than any rapist. On any reasonable hierarchy of evil, murder is on top. No matter how evil rape is, to murder a rapist is a more evil act than rape itself and to condone this makes you scum.


wrong sir! because sometimes death is the only justafiable punishment, killing the villin ain't always wrong. so sorry "you where close but no cigar, sir!"

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Postby Ferrond » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:34 am

Depending on the circumstances it should be from 10 years to the death penalty, child rapists always get the death penalty.

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Postby Davao_County » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:34 am

to avoid getting busted by the Law, don't rape anyone. Just make the right moves in the relationship, and things should work out fine.

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Postby Der Kaiser Mikey III » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:35 am

If its rape of children, death
rape of ugly ass chix, death
rape of retarded people, death

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Postby Xeraphim » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:38 am

The Bible says "Eye for an Eye".
I say the person gets raped in return.

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Postby Jordanda » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:39 am

here is a little poem for what it like in prison for child rapist

Doing drugs and stealing
and killing people s fine
but when you go and rape a kid
you've really crossed the line.

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Postby Khyrta » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:40 am

I A: Don't think they learn anything from Jail time. and B: Killing them may rid the world of them, but they should still be made to suffer for their actions.

Personally, I'd cut off their genitals and MAKE SURE they feel the pain.

But seeing as many would revert to say that this is barbaric, then death by Attila the Hun. Mwahaha!!!

If I was the target of being raped, I don't think th rapist would last very long. Like I said, I'd cut off their genitals. If I was the target, I'd also make sure to bust up their face and.....................

I think I'm gonna stop now. Yah. Good idea.
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