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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:55 pm

Galloism wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:Yea, the instructor I got after the one that almost had the Mid-Air with was an awesome guy. He used to fly for US Airways as a regional jet, so he was fun. He helped me much better than the previous guy and it was him that I was finally able to get my PPL. I think I'll go back to him for my IFR training.


No love for Vader. :(


Well, I don't want Vader to choke me for my lack of faith. :(

I think the reason my first instructor was terrible was that he didn't have any real passion for flying. It was just a job that he did right along with his Real Estate business.

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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:57 pm

Galloism wrote:No love for Vader. :(


I don't understand all the difficulties placed along the road to a pilots licence. Flying is easy, there is much less to hit in the sky. Just avoid the hard bit at the bottom and the really soft bit at the top and you're golden.

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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:04 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:Yea, the instructor I got after the one that almost had the Mid-Air with was an awesome guy. He used to fly for US Airways as a regional jet, so he was fun. He helped me much better than the previous guy and it was him that I was finally able to get my PPL. I think I'll go back to him for my IFR training.


No love for Vader. :(


Well, I don't want Vader to choke me for my lack of faith. :(

I think the reason my first instructor was terrible was that he didn't have any real passion for flying. It was just a job that he did right along with his Real Estate business.


See, that's just wrong. Flying isn't just a business - it's fun! And there's very little that's more rewarding than to share that fun with someone else, and teach them to enjoy it as much as you do. Even instrument training can be fun (although it's not as fun as flying VFR, in my opinion). There's a lot more bookwork, but there's nothing like shooting an ILS down to minimums and knowing you're only 200 feet above the ground when suddenly the approach lights come into view.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:04 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote:No love for Vader. :(


I don't understand all the difficulties placed along the road to a pilots licence. Flying is easy, there is much less to hit in the sky. Just avoid the hard bit at the bottom and the really soft bit at the top and you're golden.


:blink:

I'm just going to assume you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:05 pm

Galloism wrote: :blink:

I'm just going to assume you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.


I have an expired PPL. ;)

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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:05 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote:No love for Vader. :(


I don't understand all the difficulties placed along the road to a pilots licence. Flying is easy, there is much less to hit in the sky. Just avoid the hard bit at the bottom and the really soft bit at the top and you're golden.


Yea...umm...you do realize that flying has changed alot since the 1930s and 40s, right?

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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:06 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote: :blink:

I'm just going to assume you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.


I have an expired PPL. ;)


1) Pilot's Licenses never expire. They can be resigned or revoked, though.

2) How long? A lot's changed since 1930.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:07 pm

Galloism wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote: :blink:

I'm just going to assume you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.


I have an expired PPL. ;)


1) Pilot's Licenses never expire. They can be resigned or revoked, though.

2) How long? A lot's changed since 1930.


I beat you to #2 :p

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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:09 pm

Wilgrove wrote:I beat you to #2 :p


Do I need to remind you not to meddle in the affairs of flight instructors again?
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:10 pm

Galloism wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:I beat you to #2 :p


Do I need to remind you not to meddle in the affairs of flight instructors again?


You can, but it'd be a futile effort.

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Postby The Atlantian islands » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:10 pm

I fear the Obama presidency will be similar to Jimmy Carters. That is not a good thing at all.

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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:10 pm

Galloism wrote:1) Pilot's Licenses never expire. They can be resigned or revoked, though.

2) How long? A lot's changed since 1930.


I was told they do in the UK unless you fly a certain number of hours per year and keep your medical up to date. I didn't pay for it in the first place so I'll be quite pleased if it's still active.

I learned to fly in 2000 and there was a certain amount of humour in my first post but still, I found it much easier than driving.

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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:12 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote:1) Pilot's Licenses never expire. They can be resigned or revoked, though.

2) How long? A lot's changed since 1930.


I was told they do in the UK unless you fly a certain number of hours per year and keep your medical up to date. I didn't pay for it in the first place so I'll be quite pleased if it's still active.

I learned to fly in 2000 and there was a certain amount of humour in my first post but still, I found it much easier than driving.


Well in the UK you're under JAA rules, and I don't know jack shit about their testing procedures or currency requirements.

If JAA modeled your licensing system after ours, though, the licenses never actually expire. You may be out of currency, and your medical out of date, and you can't fly until you're current with an updated medical, but it doesn't actually expire.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:15 pm

Galloism wrote:Well in the UK you're under JAA rules, and I don't know jack shit about their testing procedures or currency requirements.

If JAA modeled your licensing system after ours, though, the licenses never actually expire. You may be out of currency, and your medical out of date, and you can't fly until you're current with an updated medical, but it doesn't actually expire.


Hmmm, even if the licence is still active I'm not sure any aircraft rental company would let me take a kite without a prohibatively expensive series of check flights given that I've only flown 45 recorded hours and not for 9 years.

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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:20 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:I beat you to #2 :p


Do I need to remind you not to meddle in the affairs of flight instructors again?


You can, but it'd be a futile effort.


You might take this to heart:

I took my spin training in one of these:

Image

although it was less heavily decorated.

I can do accelerated spins, flat spins, crossover spins, inverted spins... basically I can make that aircraft seemingly more out of control than you can possibly imagine. Interestingly, on a crossover spin, I can make the aircraft spin to the left, and trick your kinesthetic sense into thinking you're spinning to the right, or vice versa. Interestingly, my instructor put me into a spin to the left on a cloudless day with unlimited visibility, and I was not immediately sure which direction I was spinning. Then, he taught me the trick.

Muahahahaha.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:21 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well in the UK you're under JAA rules, and I don't know jack shit about their testing procedures or currency requirements.

If JAA modeled your licensing system after ours, though, the licenses never actually expire. You may be out of currency, and your medical out of date, and you can't fly until you're current with an updated medical, but it doesn't actually expire.


Hmmm, even if the licence is still active I'm not sure any aircraft rental company would let me take a kite without a prohibatively expensive series of check flights given that I've only flown 45 recorded hours and not for 9 years.


Correct, sir.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:22 pm

Galloism wrote:You might take this to heart:

I took my spin training in one of these:

Image

although it was less heavily decorated.

I can do accelerated spins, flat spins, crossover spins, inverted spins... basically I can make that aircraft seemingly more out of control than you can possibly imagine. Interestingly, on a crossover spin, I can make the aircraft spin to the left, and trick your kinesthetic sense into thinking you're spinning to the right, or vice versa. Interestingly, my instructor put me into a spin to the left on a cloudless day with unlimited visibility, and I was not immediately sure which direction I was spinning. Then, he taught me the trick.

Muahahahaha.


I wanna ride! I wanna ride!

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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:25 pm

Wilgrove wrote:I wanna ride! I wanna ride!


It's fun flying an unlimited aerobatic airplane - +/- 10 G's. You can do almost anything you can imagine.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Milks Empire » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:27 pm

Galloism wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:I wanna ride! I wanna ride!


It's fun flying an unlimited aerobatic airplane - +/- 10 G's. You can do almost anything you can imagine.

Got room for one more? :hug:

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:28 pm

Galloism wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:I wanna ride! I wanna ride!


It's fun flying an unlimited aerobatic airplane - +/- 10 G's. You can do almost anything you can imagine.


What is that?

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Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:28 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:I wanna ride! I wanna ride!


It's fun flying an unlimited aerobatic airplane - +/- 10 G's. You can do almost anything you can imagine.

Got room for one more? :hug:


Sadly, not my plane. It was his plane.

However, for $200 an hour, I could probably work something out.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Re: Obama's Cool is Starting to Melt.

Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:29 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:I wanna ride! I wanna ride!


It's fun flying an unlimited aerobatic airplane - +/- 10 G's. You can do almost anything you can imagine.


What is that?


G's? If you're seriously asking what G's are, I'm calling the JAA and having them take your license away.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Milks Empire » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:29 pm

Galloism wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:Got room for one more? :hug:

Sadly, not my plane. It was his plane.

However, for $200 an hour, I could probably work something out.

*shows Hoover flags*
Aw nuts... :(

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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:30 pm

Galloism wrote:G's? If you're seriously asking what G's are, I'm calling the JAA and having them take your license away.


Aircraft.

My experience in planes is fairly limited, Bulldog, Grob Tutor, Cessna 152, Tornado GR4, things like that.

My aircraft recognition is slightly better but not for civilian craft.
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Postby Wilgrove » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:32 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Galloism wrote:G's? If you're seriously asking what G's are, I'm calling the JAA and having them take your license away.


Aircraft.


G force is a force of gravity on an object. G-1 is basically standing still on the ground.

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