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The Black Forrest wrote:

Techno-Kat wrote:
Nope.

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Eh? You believe in the "market" fixing things?

Yep.

If people get sick from something, no one will buy it.

Techno-Kat wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:'
Eh? You believe in the "market" fixing things?

Yep.

If people get sick from something, no one will buy it.

And if it kills people then tough shit right?

Panzerjaeger wrote:

Techno-Kat wrote:
Yep.

If people get sick from something, no one will buy it.

And if it kills people then tough shit right?

When regulations kill people what do you say, tough shit right?

Techno-Kat wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:'
Eh? You believe in the "market" fixing things?

Yep.

If people get sick from something, no one will buy it.

So how is that punishment? Especially when considering that amount they spend on advertising? The media tends to not want to piss off large customers.

Seriously; you have no issues with yourself or family members getting killed or a shortened life by a dirty businessman?

Techno-Kat wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:'
Eh? You believe in the "market" fixing things?

Yep.

If people get sick from something, no one will buy it.

I feel like we should try to prevent things. I also feel like we should punish behaviors that negatively affect society as a whole.

Panzerjaeger wrote:

Techno-Kat wrote:
Yep.

If people get sick from something, no one will buy it.

And if it kills people then tough shit right?

There's six billion people on this planet.

I don't think one company's screwup is going to kill all of them.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Techno-Kat wrote:
Yep.

If people get sick from something, no one will buy it.

So how is that punishment? Especially when considering that amount they spend on advertising? The media tends to not want to piss off large customers.

Seriously; you have no issues with yourself or family members getting killed or a shortened life by a dirty businessman?

Profit motive will force companies to do proper testing lest they want to still turn a profit. Testing is part of natural R&D. If it kills a couple people or puts them in a hospital, no one will buy their products and they will lose profit. They might also be forced to pay restitution to injured families, which will also be another lost profit.

Sibirsky wrote:

Panzerjaeger wrote:And if it kills people then tough shit right?

When regulations kill people what do you say, tough shit right?

What regulations would those be?

Sibirsky wrote:

Panzerjaeger wrote:And if it kills people then tough shit right?

When regulations kill people what do you say, tough shit right?

Regulations to test products kill people? LOLOMFGWTFBBQ

Sibirsky wrote:

Panzerjaeger wrote:And if it kills people then tough shit right?

When regulations kill people what do you say, tough shit right?

No, I say why don't we examine the regulations, find out what caused this, and modify them to prevent future problems.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Techno-Kat wrote:
Yep.

If people get sick from something, no one will buy it.

So how is that punishment? Especially when considering that amount they spend on advertising? The media tends to not want to piss off large customers.

Seriously; you have no issues with yourself or family members getting killed or a shortened life by a dirty businessman?

There will be other players in the media. And a "Product X kills Y women and children" is sensationalist and will have many eyes tuned in. Eyes that command high advertising fees.

Techno-Kat wrote:

Panzerjaeger wrote:And if it kills people then tough shit right?

There's six billion people on this planet.

I don't think one company's screwup is going to kill all of them.

Indeed. A few thousand deaths is nothing to get upset over.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:When regulations kill people what do you say, tough shit right?

What regulations would those be?

The FDA comes to mind.

Sibirsky wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
So how is that punishment? Especially when considering that amount they spend on advertising? The media tends to not want to piss off large customers.

Seriously; you have no issues with yourself or family members getting killed or a shortened life by a dirty businessman?

There will be other players in the media. And a "Product X kills Y women and children" is sensationalist and will have many eyes tuned in. Eyes that command high advertising fees.

Yet this will not bring back people who are dead.

United Dependencies wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:There will be other players in the media. And a "Product X kills Y women and children" is sensationalist and will have many eyes tuned in. Eyes that command high advertising fees.

Yet this will not bring back people who are dead nor does it punish the person(s) responcible.

1) No, tough shit. Dwi.

2) Responcible isn't a correct spelling, even Queen's English uses "responsible".

3) It does. It's called losing money and paying compensation.

United Dependencies wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:There will be other players in the media. And a "Product X kills Y women and children" is sensationalist and will have many eyes tuned in. Eyes that command high advertising fees.

Yet this will not bring back people who are dead.

Other than land them on a corporate blacklist.

Sibirsky wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:

What regulations would those be?

The FDA comes to mind.

I didnt know that the FDA goes out and kills people.

Sibirsky wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:

What regulations would those be?

The FDA comes to mind.

Ok?

How have they killed people?

United Dependencies wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:The FDA comes to mind.

I didnt know that the FDA goes out and kills people.

They kill capitalists dreams of murdering millions for profit. Goddamn Communists.

United Dependencies wrote:

Techno-Kat wrote:
Yep.

If people get sick from something, no one will buy it.

I feel like we should try to prevent things. I also feel like we should punish behaviors that negatively affect society as a whole.

Prevention is a fool's errand. You'll end up restricting freedoms on the basis that something bad might happen instead of actually punishing people for screwing up. It's a very dangerous slippery slope. And who are you to decide what negatively affects society?

United Dependencies wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:When regulations kill people what do you say, tough shit right?

No, I say why don't we examine the regulations, find out what caused this, and modify them to prevent future problems.

Why can't a company do the very same thing with a product?

Panzerjaeger wrote:

United Dependencies wrote:I didnt know that the FDA goes out and kills people.

They kill capitalists dreams of murdering millions for profit. Goddamn Communists.

Question of the night: Will Panzerjaeger stop making sarcastic comments and actually engage in intellectual conversation?

Panzerjaeger wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:When regulations kill people what do you say, tough shit right?

Regulations to test products kill people? LOLOMFGWTFBBQ

Ok since we are talking about testing products, I'll stick to that. The FDA. They don't actually test, but they approve or ban products based on tests. If they approve a product and it turns out to be bad and kills many people due to side effects, the shit hits the fan. They're dragged in front of congress, it's all over the media, they lose their jobs and they are guilty in the court of public opinion.

If they are very slow with the approval process there is not a word about it from the media. Meanwhile people die due to a lack of good medication that would save lives. There are perfectly safe medicines available in Europe for instance that are not yet approved, or even banned in the US.

Yes, regulations to test products kill people.

United Dependencies wrote:

Sibirsky wrote:There will be other players in the media. And a "Product X kills Y women and children" is sensationalist and will have many eyes tuned in. Eyes that command high advertising fees.

Yet this will not bring back people who are dead.

It will kill the killers. When a state kills the innocent, they don't come back to life either. The state kills far for people.

Bendira wrote:

Panzerjaeger wrote:They kill capitalists dreams of murdering millions for profit. Goddamn Communists.

Question of the night: Will Panzerjaeger stop making sarcastic comments and actually engage in intellectual conversation?

I honestly find it hard to debate people who respond to an argument about product regulation with "people die, tough shit."

Sibirsky wrote:There are perfectly safe medicines available in Europe for instance that are not yet approved, or even banned in the US.

For example, those medicines that use viruses.

Bendira wrote:

Panzerjaeger wrote:They kill capitalists dreams of murdering millions for profit. Goddamn Communists.

Question of the night: Will Panzerjaeger stop making sarcastic comments and actually engage in intellectual conversation?

No