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Postby UCUMAY » Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:48 am

Should people have the right to end their own life. If so why, and what reasons. If not please explain.

I personally feel like if you don't want to be alive you shouldn't have to be here.
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Postby Kobeanare » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:09 am

Already said everything I have to say on this issue here.

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Postby Eireann Fae » Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:34 am

I support autoeuthenasia. Or whatever it'd be called. "Suicide", to be crass...

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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:25 am

Yes, and doctors should be allowed to assist.

As life is distinctly a medical condition, correcting it should allow a medical treatment.
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Postby Pirateera » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:30 am

Apologies OP, but what were you specifically wanting to address?

Are you talking about the morality of the issue, whether a person can choose to end their life in that sense? Or purely the legalities of the issue? Are you reffering to suicide, or euthanasia?

It's just a really broad topic.
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Postby Call to power » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:32 am

no because its hilariously open to abuse and not exactly the sign of someone who has the right capacity to be making such a decision
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Postby Xarithis » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:34 am

Euthanasia? Certainly. The terminally ill are no longer of any use to me.

Otherwise? Perhaps. In most cases, it is no matter of mine if you do not wish to live. In fact, the world may be better for it - the weak of will should be culled.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:34 am

Call to power wrote:no because its hilariously open to abuse and not exactly the sign of someone who has the right capacity to be making such a decision

Why does wishing to die automatically imply insanity?
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Postby GeneralHaNor » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:36 am

Seeing as how scarcity of resources is a reality, The globe is over-populated, and nobody is expeirencing any manpower shortages...

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Postby Aeronos » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:40 am

Of course people should have the right to die. If they're terminally ill, it's not even questionable, but even if they're not, the counter-argument tends to be "But they could just be in the wrong mindset", but to that I say, they're not exactly going to be around afterwards to say otherwise are they? :P
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Postby Call to power » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:43 am

Galloism wrote:Why does wishing to die automatically imply insanity?


because its not something rational people do especially when suicidal thoughts are often linked with the likes of depression
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Postby Desperate Measures » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:44 am

I feel it should be a process, but in the end I think it should be allowed.
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Postby GeneralHaNor » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:48 am

Desperate Measures wrote:I feel it should be a process, but in the end I think it should be allowed.


If we want to make this a mental health issue, instead of some guy eating a bullet in his garage sure

Of course the latter, while techinically a crime in most places, isn't preventable or punishable. it's one of those "Can you enforce it" deals
The answer is no


But if we got a guy who says "Hey, I'm tottally miserable, and want to kill myself, give me a lethal dose of pain killers"
Then yeah, submit him to a process

Intervention
Therapy/counseling/other alternatives
and if it becomes clear that nothing can fix this guys life, and make him productive and happy, then prescribe him the drugs and let him drift off to dreamland to never wake
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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:52 am

Call to power wrote:
Galloism wrote:Why does wishing to die automatically imply insanity?


because its not something rational people do especially when suicidal thoughts are often linked with the likes of depression

On what basis do you say a rational person wouldn't do it?
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Postby Kobeanare » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:53 am

GeneralHaNor wrote:Of course the latter, while techinically a crime in most places, isn't preventable or punishable. it's one of those "Can you enforce it" deals

Which is utterly absurd. Apparently there are even places where attempt is illegal. Why are the authorities so gung-ho to prevent these problems that they refuse to help those who suffer them?

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Postby Call to power » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:57 am

Galloism wrote:On what basis do you say a rational person wouldn't do it?


it a sign of diminished capacity much like hiding your poop around the house but worse
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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:07 am

Call to power wrote:
Galloism wrote:On what basis do you say a rational person wouldn't do it?


it a sign of diminished capacity much like hiding your poop around the house but worse

Is it really diminished capacity when you make the decision to stop feeling pain you can no longer bear?

If a person has severe lower back pain for decades, and gets an incredibly risky and invasive surgery to fix it, when it's not necessary and only for relief of pain, is that diminished capacity?
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:10 am

Call to power wrote:no because its hilariously open to abuse and not exactly the sign of someone who has the right capacity to be making such a decision
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:27 am

Call to power wrote:it a sign of diminished capacity much like hiding your poop around the house but worse


I'd have thought it could be looked at in an incredibly rational manner.

"I'm a net drain on society, logcally the correct decision is for me to remove myself from society" - perfectly rational reason to end ones life.

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Postby Eireann Fae » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:39 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Call to power wrote:it a sign of diminished capacity much like hiding your poop around the house but worse


I'd have thought it could be looked at in an incredibly rational manner.

"I'm a net drain on society, logcally the correct decision is for me to remove myself from society" - perfectly rational reason to end ones life.


I think that's fairly rational. Also with the previously mentioned "lifelong unbearable pain" argument. I think there are many reasons rational people would want to end their own lives.

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Postby Frostaland » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:42 am

no. euthanasia is strictly illegal in Frostaland.
why?
Frostaland wants population, and no middle-year-age-crisis people to suicide.
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Postby Serpensa » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:44 am

People should get to choose. I don't care what your religion says about it, because I don't sign up to your bullshit. If I want to do something to myself, that's my business.
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Postby Gahaldu » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:45 am

Frostaland wrote:no. euthanasia is strictly illegal in Frostaland.
why?
Frostaland wants population, and no middle-year-age-crisis people to suicide.


This is not an in-character forum, this is a place for you to discuss your opinions on the subject.

I, personally, believe that euthanasia should be allowed if the subject is seriously ill or is sane and has consent from loved ones to kill him/herself. That may cut down on abuse of the system.
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Postby Eireann Fae » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:45 am

Frostaland wrote:no. euthanasia is strictly illegal in Frostaland.
why?
Frostaland wants population, and no middle-year-age-crisis people to suicide.


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Postby Norstal » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:46 am

Frostaland wrote:no. euthanasia is strictly illegal in Frostaland.
why?
Frostaland wants population, and no middle-year-age-crisis people to suicide.

Frostaland does not exist in the real world. :eyebrow:

UCUMAY wrote:Should people have the right to end their own life. If so why, and what reasons. If not please explain.

I personally feel like if you don't want to be alive you shouldn't have to be here.

Well, it really depends. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Someone can be influenced to be suicidal. On the other hand, there are people who just have bad luck that just wants to die. If euthanasia were to be legal, I think the person wanting it should prove that they can't get out of the hole they are in.
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