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Postby Power and Stability » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:11 pm

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Third Mexican Empire wrote:This applies not only to atheists, but any other believer to a non-christian faith.

I was having a chat with my friend(he's highly religious), and he told me that if "you don't have God in your heart, you'll go to Hell. No matter if you're good or not." I was thinking about, and well, it just doesn't make sense.. Take Gandhi for example. He was a leading figure in non-violent resistance. He protected the poor and stood up for their civil rights. When you think of peace, many people think of him. But he was Hindu. When he died, did God completely ignore evrything good Gandhi did, and focus on him being Hindu? No matter how good you are, if you're not Christian you'll go to Hell? Is that right NSG?

I'm sorry if I offened anyone, that is the last thing I wanted to do. This is not meant to be a flaming contest, so please, keep it clean.

NOTE:This is assuming God is real, and that a Heaven and Hell exist

NOTE: God isn't real, and neither is heaven.

So neither theists or atheists go to heaven/hell.
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Postby Genivar » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:12 pm

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Genivar wrote:Snip


Those don't show anything. The first picture is just a group of priests saluting their country, which is perfectly natural. The other ones show Hitler meeting with what appears to be high ranking Church officials, which is also not a big deal. The last picture I don't even understand.

Because the image of Hitler walking out of a church must have short circuited your brain.
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Postby Austin Setzer » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:12 pm

no it isnt he just asked "do atheist go to heavon?" he never said the word CHRISTIAN.

btw SERIOUSLY....HITLER PHOTOS? HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO ANYTHING IN THIS TOPIC?
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Postby Demen » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:12 pm

Power and Stability wrote:
Demen wrote:NOTE: God isn't real, and neither is heaven.

So neither theists or atheists go to heaven/hell.

Notice how I inserted "Note:"

Think before you post.

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Postby Freelasio » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:13 pm

umm you don't have to do what a book says, you just have to believe and fill your heart with God's love and BAM....you're in da clouds!
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Postby Teccor » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:13 pm

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Postby Genivar » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:13 pm

Austin Setzer wrote:no it isnt he just asked "do atheist go to heavon?" he never said the word CHRISTIAN.

btw SERIOUSLY....HITLER PHOTOS? HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO ANYTHING IN THIS TOPIC?

There was an argument going on if hitler and the nazis were christian.
I was simply proving he was.
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Postby Teccor » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:14 pm

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Third Mexican Empire wrote:This applies not only to atheists, but any other believer to a non-christian faith.

I was having a chat with my friend(he's highly religious), and he told me that if "you don't have God in your heart, you'll go to Hell. No matter if you're good or not." I was thinking about, and well, it just doesn't make sense.. Take Gandhi for example. He was a leading figure in non-violent resistance. He protected the poor and stood up for their civil rights. When you think of peace, many people think of him. But he was Hindu. When he died, did God completely ignore evrything good Gandhi did, and focus on him being Hindu? No matter how good you are, if you're not Christian you'll go to Hell? Is that right NSG?

I'm sorry if I offened anyone, that is the last thing I wanted to do. This is not meant to be a flaming contest, so please, keep it clean.

NOTE:This is assuming God is real, and that a Heaven and Hell exist

NOTE: God isn't real, and neither is heaven.

So neither theists or atheists go to heaven/hell.


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Postby Austin Setzer » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:14 pm

so WHY are there atheist? if it was that easy everyone INCLUDING hitler would get into heavan
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Postby Maxedon » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:14 pm

What if Barack Obama got drunk and nuked the sky...would heaven still be there?
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Postby Threlizdun » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:14 pm

I heaven really exists, then I think they can. I don't personally believe in heaven though, even though I do think an afterlife most likely exists.
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Postby New Kereptica » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:14 pm

Austin Setzer wrote:no it isnt he just asked "do atheist go to heavon?" he never said the word CHRISTIAN.


Third Mexican Empire wrote:Christian


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Postby Power and Stability » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:14 pm

Demen wrote:
Power and Stability wrote:

Notice how I inserted "Note:"

Think before you post.

Then your post is useless. Many other people have said that, and you in no way addressed the OP. Why don't you think before you post?
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Postby Austin Setzer » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:15 pm

yes because heavan is not in our atmosphere like most people believe
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Postby Urcea » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:15 pm

Genivar wrote:
Urcea wrote:
Those don't show anything. The first picture is just a group of priests saluting their country, which is perfectly natural. The other ones show Hitler meeting with what appears to be high ranking Church officials, which is also not a big deal. The last picture I don't even understand.

Because the image of Hitler walking out of a church must have short circuited your brain.


So non-Catholics have never been in a Church? Ever?

By the way, nice ad hominem + derail.
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Postby Barringtonia » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:15 pm

Austin Setzer wrote:no it isnt he just asked "do atheist go to heavon?" he never said the word CHRISTIAN.


From the OP..

No matter how good you are, if you're not Christian you'll go to Hell? Is that right NSG?

I think he did, well not 'said' but 'wrote' at least.
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Postby New Kereptica » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:15 pm

Austin Setzer wrote:so WHY are there atheist? if it was that easy everyone INCLUDING hitler would get into heavan


Are those two sentences supposed to relate to each other?
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Postby New Kereptica » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:16 pm

Austin Setzer wrote:yes because heavan is not in our atmosphere like most people believe


I don't think most people believe that.
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Postby Austin Setzer » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:16 pm

they both involve heavan...plus hitler would not go to heavan....god would say "I DONT CARE IF YOU FILL THE REQUIREMENTS!"
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Postby Power and Stability » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:16 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
Austin Setzer wrote:so WHY are there atheist? if it was that easy everyone INCLUDING hitler would get into heavan


Are those two sentences supposed to relate to each other?

This^^
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Postby Power and Stability » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:17 pm

Austin Setzer wrote:they both involve heavan...plus hitler would not go to heavan....god would say "I DONT CARE IF YOU FILL THE REQUIREMENTS!"

Umm, what?
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Postby South Lorenya » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:17 pm

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Postby New Kereptica » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:17 pm

Austin Setzer wrote:they both involve heavan...plus hitler would not go to heavan....god would say "I DONT CARE IF YOU FILL THE REQUIREMENTS!"


No they don't. The first asks about the existence of atheists. The second concerns lax requisites for entry into heaven. They are not clearly related.
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Postby Barringtonia » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:18 pm

Austin Setzer wrote:so WHY are there atheist? if it was that easy everyone INCLUDING hitler would get into heavan


It's a good question, why are there atheists, what kind of a sick creation is this? Is it really all about some ridiculous test that I have to pass despite limited information, guesswork, a thousand madmen telling me what to do and the result is either eternal bliss or eternal pain?

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Postby Austin Setzer » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:18 pm

plus you dont have to believe in JESUS you have to believe in a SAVIOR to get into heavan....Jesus' real name was Jesus of Nazareth not Jesus Christ....thats just what Christians called him because Christ is another word for messiah which translates into "savior"
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