Can atheists go to Heaven?

[Unhealthy2]

It's unfortunate that reason is flawed.

Except that it's not flawed. Reason only spits out garbage when:

1) Garbage is inserted.

2) Reason is used incorrectly, and thus not used at all.

[The State of Utah]

It's unfortunate that reason is flawed.

Except that it's not flawed. Reason only spits out garbage when:

1) Garbage is inserted.

2) Reason is used incorrectly, and thus not used at all.

ever heard of Decartes?

[Unhealthy2]

Faith is the believing in something

No, faith is believing something without rational justification. The lack of any rational reason to believe in a god makes belief in a god a completely arbitrary idea. Hence, it is rationally justified to reject it unless new information is presented which rationally justifies it.

[Unhealthy2]

ever heard of Decartes?

Yeah, what of him?

[Genivar]

Faith is the believing in something

No, faith is believing something without rational justification. The lack of any rational reason to believe in a god makes belief in a god a completely arbitrary idea. Hence, it is rationally justified to reject it unless new information is presented which rationally justifies it.

[The State of Utah]

No... Faith is the believing in something, An atheist doesn't believe in a god, so they believe that there is no god. that is their faith Atheisim is a faith.

So atheism isn't a faith because it doesn't believe in god so it's marked by the fact that it doesn't believe, SO the premise is... as long as somebody believes that there is nothing by not believing in something it's not a faith OK I GET IT!!!... could you explain it to me?

[Gagatron]

Nothing irrational about belief in a creator.

Believing in anything without rational justification is, by definition, irrational.

Not everything you dislike or disagree with is stupid.

Correct, but everything irrational is stupid.

My rational justification for the existence of a God is the probability of the world existing without one being miniscule.

Cursing/swearing.

[Sociobiology]

It's unfortunate that reason is flawed.

Except that it's not flawed. Reason only spits out garbage when:

1) Garbage is inserted.

2) Reason is used incorrectly, and thus not used at all.

reason has to coupled with testing and evidence or there is no way to establish what is garbage, thats the whole point of science.

[Unhealthy2]

So atheism isn't a faith because it doesn't believe in god so it's marked by the fact that it doesn't believe, SO the premise is... as long as somebody believes that there is nothing by not believing in something it's not a faith OK I GET IT!!!... could you explain it to me?

Atheism is not the belief in nothing. It's the lack of belief in god or, at its strongest, the belief that no god exists. Nothing about believing that no god exists necessitates believing in nothing. Just because someone doesn't believe in god doesn't mean that they don't believe in anything. That's terrible reasoning.

[New Kereptica]

My rational justification for the existence of a God is the probability of the world existing without one being miniscule.

It isn't, though.

[Gagatron]

My rational justification for the existence of a God is the probability of the world existing without one being miniscule.

It isn't, though.

Tell me about it in a TG.

[The State of Utah]

Faith is the believing in something

No, faith is believing something without rational justification. The lack of any rational reason to believe in a god makes belief in a god a completely arbitrary idea. Hence, it is rationally justified to reject it unless new information is presented which rationally justifies it.

So it's rational to beleive that there is NO god. where is it written in the manuals of the world and how it works that there is a 100% chance that god Does NOT exist.???

[Unhealthy2]

My rational justification for the existence of a God is the probability of the world existing without one being miniscule.

Except that no one has ever really been able to give concrete proof that the probability of a world existing without god is small. They always assert that it's incredibly small, but any actually probability numbers or calculations are rarely produced, and when they are, they're never explained.

Cursing/swearing.

"Stupid" is now a swear word?

[Unhealthy2]

So it's rational to beleive that there is NO god. where is it written in the manuals of the world and how it works that there is a 100% chance that god Does NOT exist.???

So now not believing in god is equivalent to believing that it's absolutely impossible for a god to exist? How?

[The State of Utah]

My rational justification for the existence of a God is the probability of the world existing without one being miniscule.

It isn't, though.

or is it??? think for a second don't just agree with what you want but actuly use those mental faculties that god that doesn't exist gave you. or maybe that billion year process they call evolution... or a combinaiton of both. or a veriation...

[Gagatron]

"Stupid" is now a swear word?

No I was just reminding you of the things you have done that are stupid, to let you know that you are not perfect in this argument.

[Unhealthy2]

reason has to coupled with testing and evidence or there is no way to establish what is garbage, thats the whole point of science.

Yes, but the point of reason is to work with given premises, not to derive them. As such, reason is not flawed.

[Genivar]

So atheism isn't a faith because it doesn't believe in god so it's marked by the fact that it doesn't believe, SO the premise is... as long as somebody believes that there is nothing by not believing in something it's not a faith OK I GET IT!!!... could you explain it to me?

Was that a triple negative? I can't really answer that because I really have no idea what you just said, what I can say is this, BALD is not a hair color, OFF is not a T.V> channel, Anarchy is not a form of government, and Atheism is not a religion. These are the LACK of hair, channel, government, and religion.

[Unhealthy2]

or is it??? think for a second don't just agree with what you want but actuly use those mental faculties that god that doesn't exist gave you. or maybe that billion year process they call evolution... or a combinaiton of both. or a veriation...

This post has such horrible grammar and syntax that I can barely manage to catch even a glimpse of what it means. Please write this in a clearer manner.

[New Kereptica]

or is it??? think for a second don't just agree with what you want but actuly use those mental faculties that god that doesn't exist gave you. or maybe that billion year process they call evolution... or a combinaiton of both. or a veriation...

The latter. Though it's closer to four-odd billion years, I think.

[Gagatron]

reason has to coupled with testing and evidence or there is no way to establish what is garbage, thats the whole point of science.

Yes, but the point of reason is to work with given premises, not to derive them. As such, reason is not flawed.

But the human mind is, and reason works by the power of the human mind alone. Sometimes your "reason" doesn't mean much.

[Unhealthy2]

No I was just reminding you of the things you have done that are stupid, to let you know that you are not perfect in this argument.

Yes, and I make sure to punish myself every day for my lack of being perfect.

[The State of Utah]

So it's rational to beleive that there is NO god. where is it written in the manuals of the world and how it works that there is a 100% chance that god Does NOT exist.???

So now not believing in god is equivalent to believing that it's absolutely impossible for a god to exist? How?

isn't that athiesm? A Theism Non Deo. No God? or are you just a agnostic.

[New Kereptica]

isn't that athiesm? A Theism Non Deo. No God? or are you just a agnostic.

That isn't even anti-theism, bro.

[Gagatron]

No I was just reminding you of the things you have done that are stupid, to let you know that you are not perfect in this argument.

Yes, and I make sure to punish myself every day for my lack of being perfect.

Well that's not healthy. Repenting and gaining forgiveness feels much better.