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Postby Khazmatistan » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:54 pm

Barringtonia wrote:
Qwcasd wrote:If a man is honestly and atheists, and has reason in his mind that there is no God, I don't see why he should go to hell. Even C.S. Lewis thinks that.


C.S. Lewis isn't the authority, the simple fact is that Jesus paid for our sins with his death, thus only through him can one enter heaven free of sin - if you don't accept Jesus in your heart as your saviour then you still owe Satan for your sins.


This is true. I used to be a huge fundie, and I've talked to Baptists, and they say the same thing.
Also, it says in the Bible. It does NOT say that anyone good in heart will go to Heaven, only those who accept Jesus.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:54 pm

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Meryuma wrote:If God punishes people eternally for not believing in him, then he's a dick, and I don't want to spend eternity in his heaven.

Not to mention, Heaven would be a PG shit-hole.

I concur.

Though one must remember, Gandhi was a paedo. But I think if your a good person, you'll be fine whatever happens.

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Postby Unilisia » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:54 pm

Heaven doesn't exist, so nobody can :meh:

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Postby JJ Place » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:54 pm

Well, if God is truly as great as Theists proclaim him , or her , or they , or whatever God may be , and God is as Benevolent and Perfect as many pray to him and believe God is, then yes, all Atheists should be able to go to Heaven. If not, then that's not the God anyone should follow.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:54 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
New Manvir wrote:Not to mention, Heaven would be a PG shit-hole.

I concur.

Though one must remember, Gandhi was a paedo. But I think if your a good person, you'll be fine whatever happens.

So? He was a good person.

Or that's my Indian bias willing to overlook anything bad.
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Postby Austin Setzer » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:55 pm

Ok you know what? God has done EVERYTHING for us. He made the UNIVERSE AND EARTH (and for all those who believe in the big bang thats probably HOW HE DID IT!) so he wont care what you do on earth he judges your inner soul. Accepting and embracing Jesus and/or god is the ONLY way to make it to heavon. simple as that
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Postby Laerod » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:55 pm

UCDF wrote:OF COURSE YOU CAN'T GO TO HEAVEN IF YOUR ATIEST. YOU PEOPLE INSIST IT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST. :palm:

Prove it.

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Postby Artarnica » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:55 pm

I my opinion, if you did nothing but good, or even some good, then god shall let you in.

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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:55 pm

Not according to The Bible. Who'd want to go to Heaven anyways? You're basically there to worship Yahweh and to stroke his already massive ego.

Atheists are always welcome to Valhalla! We will eat, drink, fight and be merry and Odin doesn't require the ego stroking!

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Postby Techno-Kat » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:56 pm

Khazmatistan wrote:
Barringtonia wrote:
C.S. Lewis isn't the authority, the simple fact is that Jesus paid for our sins with his death, thus only through him can one enter heaven free of sin - if you don't accept Jesus in your heart as your saviour then you still owe Satan for your sins.


This is true. I used to be a huge fundie, and I've talked to Baptists, and they say the same thing.
Also, it says in the Bible. It does NOT say that anyone good in heart will go to Heaven, only those who accept Jesus.


Hitler went to heaven because he was Lutheran, amirite?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:56 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:I concur.

Though one must remember, Gandhi was a paedo. But I think if your a good person, you'll be fine whatever happens.

So? He was a good person.

Or that's my Indian bias willing to overlook anything bad.

No, he was generally good. But I think he might serve some time in Religious Heavenly Jail(Mormon hell) before he gets past the gates, or whatever.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:56 pm

Wilgrove wrote:Not according to The Bible. Who'd want to go to Heaven anyways? You're basically there to worship Yahweh and to stroke his already massive ego.

Atheists are always welcome to Valhalla! We will eat, drink, fight and be merry and Odin doesn't require the ego stroking!

I like your place better... Tell me, are there orgies?

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Postby Hammersteinhausenburg » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:57 pm

if hell does exist, i just have to get on satan's (olthar's) good side while im alive.

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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:57 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:Not according to The Bible. Who'd want to go to Heaven anyways? You're basically there to worship Yahweh and to stroke his already massive ego.

Atheists are always welcome to Valhalla! We will eat, drink, fight and be merry and Odin doesn't require the ego stroking!

I like your place better... Tell me, are there orgies?


Why do you think we have the Valkyries? ;)

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:57 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:Not according to The Bible. Who'd want to go to Heaven anyways? You're basically there to worship Yahweh and to stroke his already massive ego.

Atheists are always welcome to Valhalla! We will eat, drink, fight and be merry and Odin doesn't require the ego stroking!

I like your place better... Tell me, are there orgies?

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Postby Austin Setzer » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:58 pm

unfortunatly thats not true. it all goes like this (christian version) when you go to heavon you go to judgement. If your name is not in the lambs book of life you will go to hell. but if it is, you shall not feel anymore pain. You shall not suffer. You will go to heavon. And if your atheist i want to know one thing....why? dont you want something to look foward to in the afterlife?
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Postby Khazmatistan » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:58 pm

Techno-Kat wrote:
Khazmatistan wrote:
This is true. I used to be a huge fundie, and I've talked to Baptists, and they say the same thing.
Also, it says in the Bible. It does NOT say that anyone good in heart will go to Heaven, only those who accept Jesus.


Hitler went to heaven because he was Lutheran, amirite?

Hitler was Christian, yes. I'm not sure of his denomination.

Artarnica wrote:I my opinion, if you did nothing but good, or even some good, then god shall let you in.

It's not about your opinion. The Bible says otherwise. Sorry.
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Postby Laerod » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:58 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:I like your place better... Tell me, are there orgies?


Why do you think we have the Valkyries? ;)

To feel their rejection?

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Postby New Nassrau » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:58 pm

I believe that Atheists should just be left alone and be considered "Normal" like most other people
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Postby Khazmatistan » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:58 pm

Austin Setzer wrote:unfortunatly thats not true. it all goes like this (christian version) when you go to heavon you go to judgement. If your name is not in the lambs book of life you will go to hell. but if it is, you shall not feel anymore pain. You shall not suffer. You will go to heavon. And if your atheist i want to know one thing....why? dont you want something to look foward to in the afterlife?

But we don't believe that there is one. Why would we take up an illogical faith just so we can have 'something to look forward to'?
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:59 pm

Austin Setzer wrote:unfortunatly thats not true. it all goes like this (christian version) when you go to heavon you go to judgement. If your name is not in the lambs book of life you will go to hell. but if it is, you shall not feel anymore pain. You shall not suffer. You will go to heavon. And if your atheist i want to know one thing....why? dont you want something to look foward to in the afterlife?

No. I like to think life isn't a test.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:59 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:I like your place better... Tell me, are there orgies?


Why do you think we have the Valkyries? ;)

To retrieve the dead from battle and return them to Odin's table, and reject those fools who don't fall in battle?

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Postby Plutonium Blondes » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:59 pm

Unilisia wrote:Heaven doesn't exist, so nobody can :meh:

You rot in the ground and get recycled into the Earth.

That's what the bible says anyway:
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Postby Austin Setzer » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:59 pm

because thats better than nothing...
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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:00 pm

Meryuma wrote:If God punishes people eternally for not believing in him, then he's a dick, and I don't want to spend eternity in his heaven.


I'd have to agree with this.

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