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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Cosmopoles » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:26 pm

Well, they managed to buy Lamborghini and Bugatti without ruining their designs. So long as they don't ruin the 911 I'll be happy.

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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Free Raptors » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:27 pm

Okay, not to spoil the thread, but from the way I understand things, Porsche did not actually buy VW. They do own a majority stake in the company, but they don't own VW outright.

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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Sibirsky » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:30 pm

Cosmopoles wrote:Well, they managed to buy Lamborghini and Bugatti without ruining their designs. So long as they don't ruin the 911 I'll be happy.


Good point. It may, perhaps, even benefit them. Although I would prefer a stand alone manufacturer of their caliber.
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:31 pm

I'm tired of the hackneyed "OMG, yur car is a penis substitutelol!" nonsense. Really? Really? You can't conceive of someone getting something different out of a car than you that it has to be some sort of hack-Freudian thing? Doesn't it say more about your own penis obsession that it's the first thing you think about when you see their car is a penis?

It's a fucking car. Some people what some driving dynamics in their car. Some people like kayaks. Its not for everyone, it doesn't have to be. Someone driving a Porsche isn't an indictment on someone who drives a car that fits their different needs or desires. I spent $900 on my old Porsche and it wasn't about fooling anyone, it looked like a car that I spent $900 on.

Do some douchebags buy Porsches to show off? Yes (I'm looking at you Joey Carrera). So fucking what? That's suddenly an condemnation of everyone who decides to drive one? That's pathetic.

Get over it. It's a car. You don't like it? That's why there are so many other kinds for you to chose from.
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:32 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I'm tired of the hackneyed "OMG, yur car is a penis substitutelol!" nonsense. Really? Really? You can't conceive of someone getting something different out of a car than you that it has to be some sort of hack-Freudian thing? Doesn't it say more about your own penis obsession that it's the first thing you think about when you see their car is a penis?

It's a fucking car. Some people what some driving dynamics in their car. Some people like kayaks. Its not for everyone, it doesn't have to be. Someone driving a Porsche isn't an indictment on someone who drives a car that fits their different needs or desires. I spent $900 on my old Porsche and it wasn't about fooling anyone, it looked like a car that I spent $900 on.

Do some douchebags buy Porsches to show off? Yes (I'm looking at you Joey Carrera). So fucking what? That's suddenly an condemnation of everyone who decides to drive one? That's pathetic.

Get over it. It's a car. You don't like it? That's why there are so many other kinds for you to chose from.


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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:33 pm

Cosmopoles wrote:Well, they managed to buy Lamborghini and Bugatti without ruining their designs. So long as they don't ruin the 911 I'll be happy.

They saved Lamborghini, even. Primarily by allowing them to develop their own brand.
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Sibirsky » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:34 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I'm tired of the hackneyed "OMG, yur car is a penis substitutelol!" nonsense. Really? Really? You can't conceive of someone getting something different out of a car than you that it has to be some sort of hack-Freudian thing? Doesn't it say more about your own penis obsession that it's the first thing you think about when you see their car is a penis?

It's a fucking car. Some people what some driving dynamics in their car. Some people like kayaks. Its not for everyone, it doesn't have to be. Someone driving a Porsche isn't an indictment on someone who drives a car that fits their different needs or desires. I spent $900 on my old Porsche and it wasn't about fooling anyone, it looked like a car that I spent $900 on.

Do some douchebags buy Porsches to show off? Yes (I'm looking at you Joey Carrera). So fucking what? That's suddenly an condemnation of everyone who decides to drive one? That's pathetic.

Get over it. It's a car. You don't like it? That's why there are so many other kinds for you to chose from.


Amen brother. Besides a Porsche is a hell of a car.
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:35 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I'm tired of the hackneyed "OMG, yur car is a penis substitutelol!" nonsense. Really? Really? You can't conceive of someone getting something different out of a car than you that it has to be some sort of hack-Freudian thing? Doesn't it say more about your own penis obsession that it's the first thing you think about when you see their car is a penis?

It's a fucking car. Some people what some driving dynamics in their car. Some people like kayaks. Its not for everyone, it doesn't have to be. Someone driving a Porsche isn't an indictment on someone who drives a car that fits their different needs or desires. I spent $900 on my old Porsche and it wasn't about fooling anyone, it looked like a car that I spent $900 on.

Do some douchebags buy Porsches to show off? Yes (I'm looking at you Joey Carrera). So fucking what? That's suddenly an condemnation of everyone who decides to drive one? That's pathetic.

Get over it. It's a car. You don't like it? That's why there are so many other kinds for you to chose from.


Bolded for vested interest in insisting there's no correlation.

Meaning, what, exactly? That I had one, so clearly I'm just in denial about the penis thing? Yeah, that's convincing...certainly absolves you of your own penis obsession...
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Sibirsky » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:37 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I'm tired of the hackneyed "OMG, yur car is a penis substitutelol!" nonsense. Really? Really? You can't conceive of someone getting something different out of a car than you that it has to be some sort of hack-Freudian thing? Doesn't it say more about your own penis obsession that it's the first thing you think about when you see their car is a penis?

It's a fucking car. Some people what some driving dynamics in their car. Some people like kayaks. Its not for everyone, it doesn't have to be. Someone driving a Porsche isn't an indictment on someone who drives a car that fits their different needs or desires. I spent $900 on my old Porsche and it wasn't about fooling anyone, it looked like a car that I spent $900 on.

Do some douchebags buy Porsches to show off? Yes (I'm looking at you Joey Carrera). So fucking what? That's suddenly an condemnation of everyone who decides to drive one? That's pathetic.

Get over it. It's a car. You don't like it? That's why there are so many other kinds for you to chose from.


And out of curiosity, how old was your $900 Porsche when you bought it and how close was it to inspection passing condition? Because a $900 Porsche sounds damn tempting for a weekend ride.
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Pevisopolis » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:41 pm

So, some rich bastards won't get the opportunity to proudly have the bumper sticker "My other car is also a porsche". Big fucking deal, if you ask me.
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Postby Sibirsky » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:42 pm

Pevisopolis wrote:So, some rich bastards won't get the opportunity to proudly have the bumper sticker "My other car is also a porsche". Big fucking deal, if you ask me.


Are all rich "bastards"? Are all Porsche drivers "bastards"?
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:44 pm

Sibirsky wrote:And out of curiosity, how old was your $900 Porsche when you bought it and how close was it to inspection passing condition? Because a $900 Porsche sounds damn tempting for a weekend ride.

It was a 1973 914 1.7 that I bought in 1990. It had too many things wrong with it to list to get it for that price, but since it had so much VW in it (type IV engine with Porsche injection) it wasn't too much hassle to just Mickey Mouse the car together for a few years before I had to give up and buy and even older Volkswagen ('67 split window camper Bus).

As a weekend cruiser/constant project the 914 is a lot of fun. I was trying to enroll the poor bastard as daily driver.
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Pevisopolis » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:44 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Pevisopolis wrote:So, some rich bastards won't get the opportunity to proudly have the bumper sticker "My other car is also a porsche". Big fucking deal, if you ask me.


Are all rich "bastards"? Are all Porsche drivers "bastards"?

I said "Some", not "All".
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:45 pm

Pevisopolis wrote:So, some rich bastards won't get the opportunity to proudly have the bumper sticker "My other car is also a porsche". Big fucking deal, if you ask me.

I always thought those bumper stickers were tongue in cheek.
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Postby Sibirsky » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:46 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:And out of curiosity, how old was your $900 Porsche when you bought it and how close was it to inspection passing condition? Because a $900 Porsche sounds damn tempting for a weekend ride.

It was a 1973 914 1.7 that I bought in 1990. It had too many things wrong with it to list to get it for that price, but since it had so much VW in it (type IV engine with Porsche injection) it wasn't too much hassle to just Mickey Mouse the car together for a few years before I had to give up and buy and even older Volkswagen ('67 split window camper Bus).

As a weekend cruiser/constant project the 914 is a lot of fun. I was trying to enroll the poor bastard as daily driver.


I got a daily driver that I'm happy with. An 04 Linc LS V8. But I miss the German cars. And could use a cheap weekend toy.
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:47 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Meaning, what, exactly? That I had one, so clearly I'm just in denial about the penis thing? Yeah, that's convincing...certainly absolves you of your own penis obsession...


Long rant about how the purchasing of expensive (and thus, symbolic of conspicuous consumption - another compensation mechanism), phallic accessories doesn't mean anything.

...in which, you mention that you just so happen to have purchased one of those accessories.

Does that automatically mean you are in denail? No, of course not.


On an unrelated not, perhaps Bill O'Reilly claims that 'the O'Reilly Factor' is the only program 'without spin' because it's an objective judgement.
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Sibirsky » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:47 pm

Pevisopolis wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:
Pevisopolis wrote:So, some rich bastards won't get the opportunity to proudly have the bumper sticker "My other car is also a porsche". Big fucking deal, if you ask me.


Are all rich "bastards"? Are all Porsche drivers "bastards"?

I said "Some", not "All".


Just checking
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Re: End of Porsche

Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:49 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Meaning, what, exactly? That I had one, so clearly I'm just in denial about the penis thing? Yeah, that's convincing...certainly absolves you of your own penis obsession...


Long rant about how the purchasing of expensive (and thus, symbolic of conspicuous consumption - another compensation mechanism), phallic accessories doesn't mean anything.

...in which, you mention that you just so happen to have purchased one of those accessories.

Does that automatically mean you are in denail? No, of course not.


On an unrelated not, perhaps Bill O'Reilly claims that 'the O'Reilly Factor' is the only program 'without spin' because it's an objective judgement.

That's about the saddest dismissal I've seen.
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Postby Sibirsky » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:50 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Meaning, what, exactly? That I had one, so clearly I'm just in denial about the penis thing? Yeah, that's convincing...certainly absolves you of your own penis obsession...


Long rant about how the purchasing of expensive (and thus, symbolic of conspicuous consumption - another compensation mechanism), phallic accessories doesn't mean anything.

...in which, you mention that you just so happen to have purchased one of those accessories.

Does that automatically mean you are in denail? No, of course not.


On an unrelated not, perhaps Bill O'Reilly claims that 'the O'Reilly Factor' is the only program 'without spin' because it's an objective judgement.


Dude, his "conspicuous consumption" was a 17 year old $900 car.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:51 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:That's about the saddest dismissal I've seen.


Okay.

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Postby Sibirsky » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:51 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Meaning, what, exactly? That I had one, so clearly I'm just in denial about the penis thing? Yeah, that's convincing...certainly absolves you of your own penis obsession...


Long rant about how the purchasing of expensive (and thus, symbolic of conspicuous consumption - another compensation mechanism), phallic accessories doesn't mean anything.

...in which, you mention that you just so happen to have purchased one of those accessories.

Does that automatically mean you are in denail? No, of course not.


On an unrelated not, perhaps Bill O'Reilly claims that 'the O'Reilly Factor' is the only program 'without spin' because it's an objective judgement.


Dude, his "conspicuous consumption" was a 17 year old $900 car.
'

Which only means to me, that he is a real "car guy". A guy that cares about the car, and how it feels to drive, and not what people think. Besides he mentioned it was a project car. Sounds good to me.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:52 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Meaning, what, exactly? That I had one, so clearly I'm just in denial about the penis thing? Yeah, that's convincing...certainly absolves you of your own penis obsession...


Long rant about how the purchasing of expensive (and thus, symbolic of conspicuous consumption - another compensation mechanism), phallic accessories doesn't mean anything.

...in which, you mention that you just so happen to have purchased one of those accessories.

Does that automatically mean you are in denail? No, of course not.


On an unrelated not, perhaps Bill O'Reilly claims that 'the O'Reilly Factor' is the only program 'without spin' because it's an objective judgement.


Dude, his "conspicuous consumption" was a 17 year old $900 car.


Uh huh. That just happened to be a Porsche. Coincidentally.

He probably intended to buy a Kia, but somehow slipped and pointed at the wrong one.
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Postby Pevisopolis » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:52 pm

greed and death wrote:
Pevisopolis wrote:So, some rich bastards won't get the opportunity to proudly have the bumper sticker "My other car is also a porsche". Big fucking deal, if you ask me.

I always thought those bumper stickers were tongue in cheek.

To be expected, since the "Also" came from theHitchhiker's Guide series :p
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:52 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Meaning, what, exactly? That I had one, so clearly I'm just in denial about the penis thing? Yeah, that's convincing...certainly absolves you of your own penis obsession...


Long rant about how the purchasing of expensive (and thus, symbolic of conspicuous consumption - another compensation mechanism), phallic accessories doesn't mean anything.

...in which, you mention that you just so happen to have purchased one of those accessories.

Does that automatically mean you are in denail? No, of course not.


On an unrelated not, perhaps Bill O'Reilly claims that 'the O'Reilly Factor' is the only program 'without spin' because it's an objective judgement.


Dude, his "conspicuous consumption" was a 17 year old $900 car.

ImageI don't know here is what it looked like.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:54 pm

greed and death wrote:ImageI don't know here is what it looked like.


That's just scary... I don't even want to know how you immediately laid hands to that...
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